Elon Musk buying Twitter exposes the great divide

Face it, calling what they do "fact checking" and "curating" is just a weak attempt to cover up the censorship they were doing. Just because you disagree with what is said does not make in "misinformation". Sad that some people can't tell the difference...
 

I'm not affected by any of what Elon Musk does. It there anyone that has been posting been affected by what he does relative to twitter?
 
Knight said:
some must have experienced tragedy over Musk buying Twitter because including yours & mine there have been 128 posts.
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certainly not me, I hadn't even read the thread tbh.. only the headline.. most unlike me, so I've just gone back and read the first few pages.. that's enough for me.. a lot of hate for Musk... I don't know enough about him to hate or despise him..
 
Beezer said:
Twitter is the same 800 or so losers living in their parents' basements, projecting and feeding off each other's stupidity.

And Facebook is the one place you can meet everyone you've purposely avoided your entire life.
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I joined Truth Social and they are there too.
 
No, I have not been affected by anything Elon Musk does..but will say this:

There is a tendency to discredit or disparage those who have achieved wealth or prominence in public life..

In Japan, the expression is "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down"

In Australia, it’s called the “ tall poppy syndrome.”

In Guatemala, it is called “crabs in a bucket”.

Just to mention a few.
Some under-achievers love to criticize anyone who succeeds. So Elon Musk and others like him are fair game.
 
I read the first couple of pages on this thread and opinions were varied as to Mr Musk and his wealth. It is his money, he earned it and his do to with as he pleases. What bothers me is how he fired staff world wide in a stock email, told them that they would receive this email at 9am this morning but started laying people off last night. (this is what I read} I hope that the staff who are fired get their benefits.

I also think that he is being far too hard on the staff he has left in regards to their long work hours. The stress that these people must be under. Kindness and empathy begin at home, and I wonder what happened in this family that a child decided to change their name and not want to be associated with their father?
 
RobinWren said:
I read the first couple of pages on this thread and opinions were varied as to Mr Musk and his wealth. It is his money, he earned it and his do to with as he pleases. What bothers me is how he fired staff world wide in a stock email, told them that they would receive this email at 9am this morning but started laying people off last night. (this is what I read} I hope that the staff who are fired get their benefits. I also think that he is being far too hard on the staff he has left in regards to their long work hours. The stress that these people must be under. Kindness and empathy begin at home, and I wonder what happened in this family that a child decided to change their name and not want to be associated with their father?
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U-tube has a video explaining that. (about his Father)
Upheavals are expected with every new ownership.
 
Some people sure do get upset when their idols are criticized. There are some who are willing to go to prison or even die for their idols, which, I guess, has always been the case. The Jim Jones cult is a good example.

For me, there's no one in the world right now who is worthy of idol worship. Actually, I've never felt that way about anyone except maybe the Beatles when I was very, very young, but nobody since then.
 
Oct 7 (Reuters) - PepsiCo Inc (PEP.O) confirmed on Friday it would take delivery of Tesla Inc's (TSLA.O) Semi trucks on Dec. 1, becoming the first company to receive its orders of the much-delayed electric vehicle.

PepsiCo said in a statement that the trucks would be used at its Frito-Lay plant in Modesto, California, and its PepsiCo beverages factory in Sacramento. PepsiCo has been aiming to reduce fuel costs and emissions, and reserved 100 of the trucks in 2017.

Musk claims the trucks will have a range of about 500 miles, which is about the distance from San Francisco to San Diego.
 
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I was going to post that Elon is not a politically minded billionaire, but then of course he has become political by buying Twitter, but only in the sense of ridding it of partisan censorship. So he can be thought of as a facilitator of open dialog, as opposed to 'politically correct dialog'.

I like the billionaire Elon.

But there is a billionaire I will admit to h*ting, and that is George Soros, who uses his billions to facilitate illegal immigration into Europe, and the U.S. and who also is trying to harm the U.S. by funding the campaigns of leftist district attorneys, resulting in criminals being released early, and often not even being prosecuted at all.

Other billionaires to like or hate on are Bill Gates, the Koch brothers, Branson, who else?
 
My perception is billionaire held corporations in the U.S. operate as their own sovereign entities. As independent nations, if I may. Appearances are they operate with little or no government oversight or regulatory controls. They are free to function as they will.

Personally, I don't give a whit about Twitter or Elon MUSK. However, as a taxpayer, I do have a dog in this hunt and take exception to his (and collectively their) being on the dole for government funds. If they are intent on being sovereign and independent, then they should be treated as such.
 
RandomName said:
I was going to post that Elon is not a politically minded billionaire, but then of course he has become political by buying Twitter, but only in the sense of ridding it of partisan censorship. So he can be thought of as a facilitator of open dialog, as opposed to 'politically correct dialog'.

I like the billionaire Elon.

But there is a billionaire I will admit to h*ting, and that is George Soros, who uses his billions to facilitate illegal immigration into Europe, and the U.S. and who also is trying to harm the U.S. by funding the campaigns of leftist district attorneys, resulting in criminals being released early, and often not even being prosecuted at all.

Other billionaires to like or hate on are Bill Gates, the Koch brothers, Branson, who else?
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I understand that Soros’s home home country of Hungary has passed a law not to allow him back into the country. Not sure of the reasons as to why, but in reading another book, it just stated that he had been expatriated and is not allowed back in.

Regardless of whether you like the guy or not, he knows how to make money. In fall of 1992, he shorted the pound and made a cool $1 billion.

Musk is having issues with his newly acquired investment Twitter. It appears that companies have decided to hold back spending advertising dollars on Twitter. This definitely could effect Twitter’s bottom line if true.
 
Gaer said:
Well, I think Elon Musk is doing wonderful things to help humanity.
He produces good influences in many diverse actions.
I think the scope of his visions is far beyond what any of us can imagine.
I wonder why you all judge him and see the worst in him.
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but, at times, his behaviour skates perilously close to sociopathy. That makes me very nervous.
 
Been There said:
I understand that Soros’s home home country of Hungary has passed a law not to allow him back into the country. Not sure of the reasons as to why, but in reading another book, it just stated that he had been expatriated and is not allowed back in.

Regardless of whether you like the guy or not, he knows how to make money. In fall of 1992, he shorted the pound and made a cool $1 billion.

Musk is having issues with his newly acquired investment Twitter. It appears that companies have decided to hold back spending advertising dollars on Twitter. This definitely could effect Twitter’s bottom line if true.
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Soros is easy to research, so you can easily find out why he's banned from Hungary. He should be banned in every civilized nation, in my opinion.
 
SeniorBen said:
This is how the government is spending our money:

Since 2012, SpaceX has received $5.6 million in federal and state subsidies and Tesla has received $2.5 million.

Can you say "corporate welfare?"
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First, I hope you mean billions, not millions.

Second, I thought we wanted electric vehicles? Subsidies are how the government chooses to encourage EV ownership. Buyers of GM and Ford EVs get subsidies, too.

Third, SpaceX is doing costly work that NASA was doing, and is doing it more cheaply and more efficiently. Everybody knows that.

On the other hand, about a quarter of all Covid-related PPP loans (about $200 billion) are estimated to be fraudulent.

Can you say "government waste, fraud and stupidity?"
 
SeniorBen said:
Some people sure do get upset when their idols are criticized. There are some who are willing to go to prison or even die for their idols, which, I guess, has always been the case. The Jim Jones cult is a good example.

For me, there's no one in the world right now who is worthy of idol worship. Actually, I've never felt that way about anyone except maybe the Beatles when I was very, very young, but nobody since then.
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Yes, there are so many similarities between Jim Jones and Elon Musk. I'm being sarcastic, as I hope you can tell.
 
I admire Musk as a business person. He has some good instincts, but he also seems to have some very bad instincts. Some of his offhand comments about Russia and China are very disturbing. His mass firing of Twitter employees seems cruel and vindictive.

The trouble is, everyone sees these things in black and white. He's neither a hero nor a villain. If you dislike and distrust capitalism, he may seem more like a villain, however.
 
JimBob1952 said:
His mass firing of Twitter employees seems cruel and vindictive.
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As I posted in comment #136, Musk posted this:

Regarding Twitter’s reduction in force, unfortunately there is no choice when the company is losing over $4M/day. Everyone exited was offered 3 months of severance, which is 50% more than legally required.

It would be foolhardy for him to not bring the finances under control.
 
Lewkat said:
Soros is easy to research, so you can easily find out why he's banned from Hungary. He should be banned in every civilized nation, in my opinion.
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He's trying to help refugees that the U.S. and England displaced with our idiotic wars. We created the problems that he's trying to help resolve with his philanthropy.

Soros is the scapegoat for white supremacists. I'm not saying that you're a white supremacist, but you've picked up on their scapegoating... probably from Fox "news."
 
SeniorBen said:
He's trying to help refugees that the U.S. and England displaced with our idiotic wars. We created the problems that he's trying to help resolve with his philanthropy.

Soros is the scapegoat for white supremacists. I'm not saying that you're a white supremacist, but you've picked up on their scapegoating... probably from Fox "news."
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Soo...when Soros pumps millions of dollars into campaigns to elect "soft on crime" district attorneys...we're "white supremacists" for criticizing him?

Interesting.

I don't watch Fox News, by the way.
 
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