Emerging From the Pandemic

Things have pretty much returned to normal in our area. The number of Covid cases has dropped to nearly zero, and all the stores, etc., have relaxed their mask rules, etc. There are still a few "hot spots" in the state....mostly in the crowded cities, among those who are gathering at bars, etc.
We got our shots several weeks ago, and the kids/grandkids have gotten theirs, so we are "mingling" again. It's kind of a rainy week, so we may just take a day off this week and go to the casino.
 

Two things you may not be aware of. One: I'd been exposed to covid and didn't get it. If I had gotten covid, I would have quarantined myself and thus protected others, most likely developing antibodies to protect myself and others going forward. Two, I did get the J&J shot to protect myself and others. Remember that most masks are ineffective and good health is, I wasn't in much danger and certainly not dangerous to anybody else. It was just another flu season packaged up by the media and certain bureaucrats in a box of fear all wrapped up in a big layer of bureaucratic prevaricating and stupidity. Did you mask up and hide in past flu seasons?
No and now I wish I had; I've had some cases of flu that really laid me low and masking and "hiding" might well have prevented them.
P.S. Glad you did get the vax, btw; I did too and I hope we all get any vax for any upcoming pandemics. (Which there will be, don't think for a minute there won't be.)
 
Guess what. I am a good bit older than 60, in good health and wasn't all that concerned. Having seen virulent flu before (e.g. H1N1), statistics and other evidence, this looked just like another flu season to me and we didn't do all this masking/isolation crap before, die we?. Having some knowledge about the way covid/flu cases and deaths were being counted, I came to a mathematical conclusion that this season was on par with other seasons The CDC was constantly changing the rules and reporting what they wanted. What they and the news media were reporting differed from what was happening and being seen on the front lines (e.g., doctors testing for both flu and covid were seeing both but told to stop counting the flu and report it as covid. Same with deaths). So, to me, this was just another flu season but with a lot of unnecessary drama, hysterics, bureaucratic bungling and CYA, crying "wolf", hyperventilating, virtue signaling, politicing and a major power play for your money from big pharma.

Aside from all that, going along with the masking and lockdown was hurting our country and people very badly. Jobs and business were being lost. Supply chains were getting clobbered. Inventories demolished. I wasn't going to go along with that the sheer stupidity of all that. Finally, perhaps I value freedom more than some others.

Well said. I completely agree with you.

Ripley, no virus has ever been isolated apart from uncontaminated genetic material. Isolating a virus is the very first step to being able to prove a virus is real and actually exists, but that never has been done, not for any of the so called viruses. People have been dying for the usual reasons, including drugs and environmental toxins, plus the extreme plandemic measures taken to isolate the elderly away from their families, intubulate them against their will and leave them with no treatment in isolated rooms until they die or else miraculously survive the horrendous tortures, which is extremely unlikely.

Intubation requires that the person first be paralyzed - in order that they won't try to reject the tube being force crammed down their throats - then put into a forced coma so they won't keep trying to remove it. Anyone who has survived such unnecessary and barbaric treatment has described it as a constant wide awake nightmare from which they were not able to move nor escape. Even healthy people if intubated under such conditions would likely have more than an 80% death rate. None of this should ever have been happening in the first place.

Wearing a mask that reduces your breathing capacity and ability to remove toxins from your lungs.
A good idea? No, especially not for seniors. Protects you from a virus (if one existed)? No. Come on, that's obvious.

Injecting yourself with poisons, uh, to increase your immunity??? What, are you serious? No.
I don't wear a mask and I didn't get shot up with the poisons, because I do care about my health and the health of others.
Although we might have different viewpoints, I do appreciate people who do their own independent thinking and try to do what is best.
 

No and now I wish I had; I've had some cases of flu that really laid me low and masking and "hiding" might well have prevented them.
P.S. Glad you did get the vax, btw; I did too and I hope we all get any vax for any upcoming pandemics. (Which there will be, don't think for a minute there won't be.)
We're glad you're still with us after your last bout with the flu but I hope you're not expecting the vaccine to give you 100 % protection. Whether or not I get a future vaccine will depend on the how the vaccine was developed and tested. I don't like being a guinea pig for an experimental dose such as was/is the mRNA stuff and quite often variants can render a given vaccine ineffective, Regardless, may you enjoy good health going forward!
 
The plague has really hit me hard as I only have 2 passions in life ~ one being food and the other in attending/watching youth sports. For a short while it was difficult to get some food I needed as the store shelves were largely empty. Thankfully, that problem was solved after only a couple of months. But the other problem remained until just recently. I could not attend any youth sporting event such as baseball, softball, football, ice hockey, volleyball, tennis or whatever because fans were not allowed to be in attendance. Thankfully, this ban has now been lifted and I have attended a hand full of games over the past couple of weeks. So great to have things go back to normal.

Let us hope everyone will get vaxxed so that we can all be safe.
JMO... We are all safe - Vax and unvaxed. I've been practicing safety hygiene prior to the outbreak and will continue to do so. Feel soooo good to be masked free. I was suffocating.
 
Guess what. I am a good bit older than 60, in good health and wasn't all that concerned. Having seen virulent flu before (e.g. H1N1), statistics and other evidence, this looked just like another flu season to me and we didn't do all this masking/isolation crap before, die we?. Having some knowledge about the way covid/flu cases and deaths were being counted, I came to a mathematical conclusion that this season was on par with other seasons The CDC was constantly changing the rules and reporting what they wanted. What they and the news media were reporting differed from what was happening and being seen on the front lines (e.g., doctors testing for both flu and covid were seeing both but told to stop counting the flu and report it as covid. Same with deaths). So, to me, this was just another flu season but with a lot of unnecessary drama, hysterics, bureaucratic bungling and CYA, crying "wolf", hyperventilating, virtue signaling, politicing and a major power play for your money from big pharma.

Aside from all that, going along with the masking and lockdown was hurting our country and people very badly. Jobs and business were being lost. Supply chains were getting clobbered. Inventories demolished. I wasn't going to go along with that the sheer stupidity of all that. Finally, perhaps I value freedom more than some others.
VERY VERY VERY well stated. Hit the nail on the head.
 
Yes, things were OK until I moved to this apartment building mid pandemic. Hard to get to know people with restrictions in place, and everyone wearing a mask.
I am finally starting to get to know my neighbors, more than 6 months in. But, the weather is nice now, so we can sit outside. And all the activities in the community room have resumed. Something going on there every day. Even if it is just people sitting around socializing.
 
What would you consider "elderly"? IMO, when considering the dangerousness of flu virus, that'd likely be 60 & over. And isn't everyone on this site at least 60? Soooo, if you're at least 60, I don't understand why you don't consider Covid-19 dangerous enough for you to mask & isolate whenever possible. (Unless it's that "guy" thing of "I'm so darn healthy, why it's like I'm still 25!" You wouldn't be alone in that kind of thinking; every darn male I've known in my life thinks that way.)
The flu was "supposedly" dangerous for 60+ years young. However, my mom sisters and brothers never had the flu. My mom died at the age of 83..not from Covid nor the flu.. my baby brother, older brother and sister passed away...not from the flu or Covid and they were all over the age of 60. My baby brother was close to 60. I am 61 and the Flu and Covid knows better than to come my way... I am armed and dangerous🤪😤 I feel when its my time, its my time. I refuse to live in fear.
 
JMO... We are all safe - Vax and unvaxed. I've been practicing safety hygiene prior to the outbreak and will continue to do so. Feel soooo good to be masked free. I was suffocating.


All? News reports indicate that certain virus variants are emerging and infecting people. It is said that vaxxed people are generally safe but those who are not vaxxed risk getting contaminated and also risked contaminating others. I wish more would set aside their fears and take the inoculation but sometimes you just cannot reach people until it is too late.
 
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Has anyone else felt the pandemic brought about a new normal of isolation that you can’t switch gears easily and get out of?
Yes! Last week I almost went to the movies for the first time post-pandemic but I'm so out of practice at 'getting ready' I got behind schedule and gave up. At work they are talking about making us return to the office in August or September, and just aside from the dislike of the office, I am not sure how I will manage my old morning routine, it requires a lot of self-pressure to stick to the schedule. I used to have my alarm going off a bunch of times to alert me to switch preparation steps and it was all go-go-go and without enough sleep. Now I feel like I'm allergic to that type of stress.
If the Peter Rabbit movie is still in the theaters I might try again this week.
 
All? News reports indicate that certain virus variants are emerging and infecting people. It is said that vaxxed people are generally safe but those who are not vaxxed risk getting contaminated and also risked contaminating others. I wish more would set aside their fears and take the inoculation but sometimes you just cannot reach people until it is too late.
I am not a big fan of the News every since my sister died tragically. When it comes to News, to me it's "allegedly" until proven. I have not seen any one's medical record. I go on facts, not on News reports. The news can report anything it wants - which comes from higher ups... jmo.
 
I am not a big fan of the News every since my sister died tragically. When it comes to News, to me it's "allegedly" until proven. I have not seen any one's medical record. I go on facts, not on News reports. The news can report anything it wants - which comes from higher ups... jmo.


"Facts"??

Well, it does appear as if casualty counts are lower as are hospitalizations, work absenteeism, and the economy rebounding. Based on these factors, it would appear that the vax program is working.
 


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