Exactly why should vaping ne banned?

LadyEmeraude

LadyEmeraude

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Sat having coffee this morning at a coffee shop while listening to three acquaintances talk over why vaping should be banned.

I myself do not vape, nor do I smoke. So mostly I listened and took in an earful.

Seems to be an ongoing topic with
many for years ..even in this forum
before a while back.

Whatever you think about it is welcomed on this thread.
 

I don’t know much about it.

I’m not sure that many things need to be banned, which tends to make them more exciting.

I think that I’m more in favor of education and personal choice/responsibility.

It seems like vaping could be developed for some sort of medical use in treating congestion of the lungs during cold and flu season.
 
It has special risks of it's own, and when purchased in places like "vape shops" (we had one in town which has since closed) the users likely have no idea what harmful additives the liquids may contain.
 

I can only speak for what recently changed in my state. As of September 1, 2025, Texas SB 2024 makes selling certain vape products a Class A misdemeanor. The bill does not criminalize personal possession by consumers, unless the vape contains illegal substances which are specified in the bill (generally cannabinoids and hemp-derived products).
 
I don't vape and I know little about them. But, I think the only valid reason to ban something is if it somehow affects the public good. A case can be made for banning cigarettes due to the public cost of treating illnesses they cause. But, as far as I know, there is no good evidence so far that vapes have a similar problem. I can see banning them in public places where they could be an irritant to others.
 
The vape liquid is an oil you're inhaling that's all chemicals. From what I know they are just as dangerous as smoking.

When I quit smoking there was a time I wanted to smoke again so I used a vape. The residue from the vape smoke clung to the inside of the van windshield.

It was so bad I couldn't get it scrubbed off so I assume it was doing that in my lungs. Breathing worsened as well. If you're gonna quit just do it cold turkey and don't look back.
 
Fritz said:
The vape liquid is an oil you're inhaling that's all chemicals. From what I know they are just as dangerous as smoking.

When I quit smoking there was a time I wanted to smoke again so I used a vape. The residue from the vape smoke clung to the inside of the van windshield.

It was so bad I couldn't get it scrubbed off so I assume it was doing that in my lungs. Breathing worsened as well. If you're gonna quit just do it cold turkey and don't look back.
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Good point. As I said, I don't know much about them.
 
I would walk into the vape store, guys would be vaping with the best vape equipment and blow a cloud of vapor smoke all through the room. They were having fun with a product that helped them quit smoking. Good.

I quit by vaping. I vaped for several years. Last year I needed to quit. It is harder to quit than 🚬!!!! I quit about 5 times over the past year...3 months ago was my last. I am done. :)
 
Our lungs are made for taking in air, not smoke. I see signs in various businesses at the door telling people that vaping isn't allowed there. Personally, I don't like any type of smoking material. If anyone is going to do it, please do it where no one else has to smell it or go any where that we have to smell the odor coming from you.

Here are several articles from various medical facilities about the effects if anyone wants to read it:

Health Effects of Vaping
5 Vaping Facts You Need to Know
Vaping (E-Cigarettes): What It Is, Side Effects & Dangers
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem....a-doctors-warning-about-the-dangers-of-vaping
 
I know nothing about vaping, but I do know that there are certain people who desperately need someone to hate on. Years ago there were plenty of handy targets . . . people of certain nationalities, skin colors, religions, physical or mental handicaps . . . Over the years, these biases have become socially unacceptable so substitutes have had been found. Smokers are one of those substitutes, and I imagine people who vary are grouped into that category as well.
 
It's already been proven that second hand smoke from tobacco is bad for peoples health. Some people who are around it don't have a say in the matter, i.e. family members in the same household.

Not liking smoking/vaping has nothing to do with wanting to hate people. There's no correlation between the two.

If anyone wants to smoke, then do it alone or with friends who are smokers. Be respectful enough not to do it with those who chose not to be around it or who don't want illnesses caused by smoking.
 
I see more vaping of late. Most seem to try and hide the device but you see them exhale smoke of somekind. Just like cigarettes I guess it's how big an inhaler one is. Or maybe the chemicals they seek can be absorbed in the mouth.

I think some lung problems can hit vapers harder and quicker than tobacco smokers.
 
LadyEmeraude said:
Sat having coffee this morning at a coffee shop while listening to three acquaintances talk over why vaping should be banned.

I myself do not vape, nor do I smoke. So mostly I listened and took in an earful.

Seems to be an ongoing topic with
many for years ..even in this forum
before a while back.

Whatever you think about it is welcomed on this thread.
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I think tobacco companies are vilifying vaping. I've only read 2 papers on vaping, both saying research shows it's worse for your health than smoking cigarettes. Both papers were based on research that was funded by a tobacco company.

So, I looked for other research studies on vaping and I only found 1 that wasn't funded by a tobacco company or affiliate. It was a small study - on the vape-liquid ingredients, no test subjects - and it concluded that vaping may be harmful if your vaping liquid contains certain chemicals. It showed a list of 3 chemical additives that some vaping liquids might contain, which were 2 flavor-enhancers and an artificial color.

Cigarettes contain up to 20 chemical additives, mostly in the filter, and over 1/3 of them may be harmful if ingested in large quantities or if a significant amount enters the bloodstream.

The "tar" residue that builds up in your lungs from cigarette smoking is unquestionably harmful once it starts coating the alveoli.

Vaping, on the other hand, doesn't leave any type of residue in your lungs.
 
Oldeagle66 said:
I'm looking into vaping while I make a serious attempt to quit smoking. Right now it's nicotine patches. 14 days so far and I'm eating everything in the home.
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Good luck, Oldeagle!

I tried vaping and I have a caution: except for the when the vapor hits your throat, vaping does not feel like smoking cigs. The part where it hits your throat feels the same as smoking a cigarette, but the feel of the device is way different, in your hand and on your lips, and that difference made me go back to cigarettes.

I even missed having an ashtray right there next to me, and I missed the smell of my cigarette and the ashtray....those are all part of the habit, so it was really hard to have the smoking *feel* but not all the associated stuff.
 
Oldeagle66 said:
I'm looking into vaping while I make a serious attempt to quit smoking. Right now it's nicotine patches. 14 days so far and I'm eating everything in the home.
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I haven't tried patches. A few years ago, I tried vaping, thinking it may be less expensive than cigarettes, and maybe healthier. Sometimes it gave me a lightheaded sensation, leading me to wonder if the nicotine content was stronger than labeled, or if there could be unsafe substances in the liquid, since I didn't know what regulations were in place for the product. Also, every time, I was far too conscious of "using something" instead of just enjoying a smoke.

I did not experience increased appetite when vaping, so in that sense, it may work better for you than nicotine patches.
 
Vaping is controversial for a number of reasons. The first is that it CAN be as addictive as smoking, especially at higher concentrations which is what the industry is moving towards. The second is that the advertising is aimed at young teens, and the "candy" flavorings make this habit seem 'harmless and fun', moving them closer to addiction.

Per Google AI:
" Determining whether vaping is as addictive as smoking is complex and depends on several factors, including the device, nicotine strength, and user behavior. Evidence shows that modern, high-nicotine vapes can be just as addictive, if not more so, than traditional cigarettes, while some earlier devices were less efficient at delivering nicotine.

Factors that can make vaping more addictive
  • Higher nicotine concentration: The nicotine content in e-cigarettes, especially disposable vapes, has surged in recent years. Some popular vapes can contain nicotine equivalent to three packs of cigarettes or more, leading to higher dependence.
  • Faster and easier nicotine absorption: Some vaping devices use nicotine salts, which allow for a higher concentration of nicotine to be inhaled without the harshness of a traditional cigarette. This delivers nicotine to the brain more quickly and creates a smoother, more palatable experience, which can increase addiction.
  • Flavorings: Sweet and fruit flavorings in vapes are appealing, particularly to younger users. This, combined with the convenient design of many devices, encourages more frequent and prolonged use, which deepens addiction.
  • Convenience and stealth: Vaping devices are discreet and can be used in many places where smoking is prohibited. This makes it easier for users to get frequent nicotine hits, leading to a stronger and deeper dependency.
Factors that can make vaping less addictive
  • Variability in nicotine delivery: While advanced devices can deliver significant nicotine, older and less powerful e-cigarettes are less efficient. The amount of nicotine absorbed can also vary depending on the e-liquid composition and the user's puffing technique.
  • User behavior: Some vapers may use lower-nicotine e-liquids or vape less frequently. The device itself may also be less efficient, resulting in less nicotine absorption compared to a cigarette. "
 
Lethe200 said:
Vaping is controversial for a number of reasons. The first is that it CAN be as addictive as smoking, especially at higher concentrations which is what the industry is moving towards. The second is that the advertising is aimed at young teens, and the "candy" flavorings make this habit seem 'harmless and fun', moving them closer to addiction.

Per Google AI:
" Determining whether vaping is as addictive as smoking is complex and depends on several factors, including the device, nicotine strength, and user behavior. Evidence shows that modern, high-nicotine vapes can be just as addictive, if not more so, than traditional cigarettes, while some earlier devices were less efficient at delivering nicotine.

Factors that can make vaping more addictive
  • Higher nicotine concentration: The nicotine content in e-cigarettes, especially disposable vapes, has surged in recent years. Some popular vapes can contain nicotine equivalent to three packs of cigarettes or more, leading to higher dependence.
  • Faster and easier nicotine absorption: Some vaping devices use nicotine salts, which allow for a higher concentration of nicotine to be inhaled without the harshness of a traditional cigarette. This delivers nicotine to the brain more quickly and creates a smoother, more palatable experience, which can increase addiction.
  • Flavorings: Sweet and fruit flavorings in vapes are appealing, particularly to younger users. This, combined with the convenient design of many devices, encourages more frequent and prolonged use, which deepens addiction.
  • Convenience and stealth: Vaping devices are discreet and can be used in many places where smoking is prohibited. This makes it easier for users to get frequent nicotine hits, leading to a stronger and deeper dependency.
Factors that can make vaping less addictive
  • Variability in nicotine delivery: While advanced devices can deliver significant nicotine, older and less powerful e-cigarettes are less efficient. The amount of nicotine absorbed can also vary depending on the e-liquid composition and the user's puffing technique.
  • User behavior: Some vapers may use lower-nicotine e-liquids or vape less frequently. The device itself may also be less efficient, resulting in less nicotine absorption compared to a cigarette. "
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Yes, and vaping is far more tightly regulated in Texas effective Sept. 1st of this year. A new law, SB 2024, imposes penalties, including a Class A misdemeanor, for retailers selling or marketing certain vape products - especially those containing hemp, and / or disposable vapes manufactured in or marketed from China. Enforcement authorities appear regularly without noice at shops to check for violations. The local vape store in my community is permanently closed.
 

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