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CarolfromTX said:
A majority of the people in my county are vaccinated. Except of course for the thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants
who are pouring across the border, untested, not masked, quite possibly COVID positive and shipped across the state.
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But all those people who haven't been poisoned are all dead, so don't worry about them. :rolleyes:
These days, the only reason people are dying is from not being poisoned 🤪 or so the story goes. :ROFLMAO:
 

"These vaccines are truly effective," IDPH Director Dr. Ngozi Ezike said. PRICELESS.
I sound stupid but I have to support everything we do 'cuz.......I'm a doctor & I admit nothing.

Reminds me of when I took my father to the ER three times with non-stop bleeding in the bathroom. On his doctor's advice, he was taking blood thinners "To prevent a stroke or heart attack." At the third visit, the ER doctor said "You're lucky; he would have bled out & died in another couple of minutes."
I later spoke to his regular doctor & asked, "Do you think it would be a good idea to discontinue one of the blood thinners or at least reduce the dosage?" He replied, "Oh, no. Those drugs are preventing a stroke."
I asked, "But what's the use of preventing a stroke if he bleeds to death?" His reply: "Don't change the dose."
We did change the dose - to NO medication at all. He lived to 88; no stroke or heart attack. He died of a fall.
 

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win231 said:
"These vaccines are truly effective," IDPH Director Dr. Ngozi Ezike said. PRICELESS.
I sound stupid but I have to support everything we do 'cuz.......I'm a doctor.

Reminds me of when I took my father to the ER three times with non-stop bleeding in the bathroom. On his doctor's advice, he was taking blood thinners "To prevent a stroke or heart attack." At the third visit, the ER doctor said "You're lucky; he would have bled out & died in another couple of minutes."
I later spoke to his regular doctor & asked, "Do you think it would be a good idea to discontinue one of the blood thinners or at least reduce the dosage?" He replied, "Oh, no. Those drugs are preventing a stroke."
I asked, "But what's the use of preventing a stroke if he bleeds to death?" His reply: "Don't change the dose."
We did change the dose - to NO medication at all. He lived to 88; no stroke or heart attack. He died of a fall.
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When I took one blood thinner my eye began to bleed. Stopped taking it, won’t take it again
 
Pepper said:
Which one, please?
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I think it was warfin (sp). It was strange, my eye bled through where the stitches for my lens replacement for my cataract surgery which was years before. It didnt stopped bleeding until I stoped taking the blood thinner. I had a history of TIAs and a couple small strokes.
 
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Aneeda72 said:
I think it was warfin (sp). It was strange, my eye bled through where the stitches for my lens replacement for my cataract surgery which was years before. It didnt stopped bleeding until I stop taking the blood thinner. I had a history of TIAs and a couple small strokes.
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Yes, that's who blood thinners are marketed to. The problem is that there are several types of strokes - including a bleeding stroke, which blood thinners increase the risk for.
 
Becky1951 said:
"The fools getting the virus are the ones that are not vaccinated."

This is just so far, there are several more states, towns that have a smaller count so far.

Yes of course it's only the unvaccinated fools. 🙄

79 fully vaccinated died.

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/

31 fully vaccinated have died

https://fox17-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/fox17.com/amp/news/local/24-fully-vaccinated-people-have-died-in-tennessee-health-department-says-breakthrough-case-virus-coronavirus-?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://fox17.com/news/local/24-fully-vaccinated-people-have-died-in-tennessee-health-department-says-breakthrough-case-virus-coronavirus-

79 fully vaccinated have died

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/?outputType=amp#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination​


Or died? Can't they tell the difference?

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/13/nation/state-says-number-covid-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/?outputType=amp#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Nearly 400 people have been hospitalized and 100 have now died in Massachusetts

https://www-nbcboston-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/breakthrough-covid-cases-in-massachusetts-what-we-know/2457920/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16286282057265&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/breakthrough-covid-cases-in-massachusetts-what-we-know/2457920/
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You just can't stop trying to stir the pot. 79 deaths is .0072%. Now you also fail miserably to state their ages and physical conditions like obesity, smokers, etc.
 
fmdog44 said:
You just can't stop trying to stir the pot. 79 deaths is .0072%. Now you also fail miserably to state their ages and physical conditions like obesity, smokers, etc.
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79 deaths in ONE state! Why are you ignoring the other reports??? If you want to know the ages, physical conditions, read the links I posted. :rolleyes:
 
I must have looked at that chart about MASK WEARING wrong. It shows a reduction when used and increase in cases when not required. The spike began and continues upward AFTER not required. Then through out this thread some posters have added in vaccinations about masks.

The chart doesn't have a source and there is no explanation about how the virus is being transmitted in particular areas.

As a topic about facts I am not finding any.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I think it was warfin (sp). It was strange, my eye bled through where the stitches for my lens replacement for my cataract surgery which was years before. It didnt stopped bleeding until I stoped taking the blood thinner. I had a history of TIAs and a couple small strokes.
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Most people I know who are taking a blood thinner now are taking Eliquis. Much better than warfarin, without the side effects.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Why not just claim millions are pouring across the border?

Cause the entire world wants to gain access to the USA. Besides, the fact that we could use the farm workers, landscapers, kitchen workers, etc. it just is not true. Or, 😂, were you just listening in on the conversation I just had with my older half sister who believes the same thing, kind of?

She believes she is no long safe in her small town because thousands and thousands of people are moving there from, OMG, California. And not the good Californians; but the BAD Californias. The people of color Californians. The lower class scum Californians, the rapists and robbers and the drug addict Californians, the poor Californians-all moving to her small town in Oklahoma.

And bringing the virus. RUN! SISTER RUN! 😂😂😂
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She might actually be right, Aneeda. Los Angeles just forced out thousands of homeless people. They finally lifted a moratorium on removing homeless encampments, so that whole area is getting cleared out, especially the beaches. San Diego is starting to clear out their homeless people, too. They're moving them into a bunch of new missions, but most of the homeless don't want to go there, so they're just moving on..

(And it's true that 10s of thousands of illegals are crossing the Texas border. Over 5,000 per day is the last number I read (several months ago). That's up from about 900/day in 2019.)
 
Aneeda72 said:
Why not just claim millions are pouring across the border?
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U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021​

U.S. authorities have made more than 1 million arrests of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border so far in fiscal year 2021, according to preliminary figures shared with Reuters.

At the current pace, the total border arrests for the fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, would be the highest since 2000, when nearly 1.7 million migrants were apprehended by U.S. authorities.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-border-arrests-top-1-million-fiscal-year-2021-2021-06-25/
 
Murrmurr said:
She might actually be right, Aneeda. Los Angeles just forced out thousands of homeless people. They finally lifted a moratorium on removing homeless encampments, so that whole area is getting cleared out, especially the beaches. San Diego is starting to clear out their homeless people, too. They're moving them into a bunch of new missions, but most of the homeless don't want to go there, so they're just moving on..

(And it's true that 10s of thousands of illegals are crossing the Texas border. Over 5,000 per day is the last number I read (several months ago). That's up from about 900/day in 2019.)
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Well, I don’t know what homeless people have to do with illegals crossing the Texas border. But maybe all the homeless Californians are headed to Oklahoma which might make my sister somewhat right. 😂

Thousands of illegals are not pouring into El Paso, Texas. Pretty sure my daughter would notice. CNN did mention today illegals were crossing, being caught, and being sent back. CNN did not mention a number.

As for 10’s of thousands, 😂, sorry I just don’t believe it. Where are they? Where do they shelter? How do they get food and water? How do 10’s of thousands of non English speaking people hide? More important where do they get TP? Where do they potty. Seriously, 10’s of thousands of people produce a lot of feces. Texans must be knee deep in it. 🤮
 
Pink Biz said:

U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021​

U.S. authorities have made more than 1 million arrests of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border so far in fiscal year 2021, according to preliminary figures shared with Reuters.

At the current pace, the total border arrests for the fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, would be the highest since 2000, when nearly 1.7 million migrants were apprehended by U.S. authorities.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-border-arrests-top-1-million-fiscal-year-2021-2021-06-25/
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YAY. 😂 Our government money at work, job security for the border patrol.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I don’t know what homeless people have to do with illegals crossing the Texas border. But maybe all the homeless Californians are headed to Oklahoma which might make my sister somewhat right. 😂

Thousands of illegals are not pouring into El Paso, Texas. Pretty sure my daughter would notice. CNN did mention today illegals were crossing, being caught, and being sent back. CNN did not mention a number.

As for 10’s of thousands, 😂, sorry I just don’t believe it. Where are they? Where do they shelter? How do they get food and water? How do 10’s of thousands of non English speaking people hide? More important where do they get TP? Where do they potty. Seriously, 10’s of thousands of people produce a lot of feces. Texans must be knee deep in it. 🤮
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Yes, that's what I meant.

People who cross the border illegally run to a place they know. Most of them just scatter and meet up with other illegals at abandoned houses where some guy takes them to where there's work or to family members who've already immigrated. Some of the ones from Central America or parts of South America ask for asylum. Your daughter would notice if she lives really close to the border. Texans on the border see them running through their yards day and night.

If you Google "Illegal immigrants, Texas" or "California" you'll find stories and pictures.
 
Murrmurr said:
Yes, that's what I meant.

People who cross the border illegally run to a place they know. Most of them just scatter and meet up with other illegals at abandoned houses where some guy takes them to where there's work or to family members who've already immigrated. Some of the ones from Central America or parts of South America ask for asylum. Your daughter would notice if she lives really close to the border. Texans on the border see them running through their yards day and night.

If you Google "Illegal immigrants, Texas" or "California" you'll find stories and pictures.
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Daughter lives extremely close to the border, (she speaks Spanish, btw); but with six dogs no one runs through her yard. 😂
 

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