Fired Nurses Suing

Sorry, don't agree.

I have friends who are immuno-compromised. Even vaccinated, they simply don't produce enough antibodies to protect them.

You work with the public - you need to get vaccinated. Period. No leeway. You can infect DOZENS of others without ever knowing you did so.

You have a right to be skeptical. You do not have a right to endanger others.
 
I will and would not go to a hospital whose employees are not vaccinated! They are being very selfish in not looking after their patients. If they don't want the vaccine then fine. Go work elsewhere. The employees at my doctor's office are vaxxed and wearing masks. The office has changed its floor plan and is socially distanced. I appreciate it. My doctor and I do the elbow bump instead of shaking hands. He wears a mask and I do too. I take my vaccine card as they request it along with my insurance card. No big deal.
 
chic said:
I don't think they'll win because this has gone too far and the further it goes the harder it will be to rollback.
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They were not refusing to wear masks; they only refused the vaccine.
I know a P.A. (physician's assistant) who was required to get a flu shot. When she refused, she was required to wear a mask, which was fine with her. If a mask protects, the nurses would not be "endangering" their patients.
 
win231 said:
They were not refusing to wear masks; they only refused the vaccine.
I know a P.A. (physician's assistant) who was required to get a flu shot. When she refused, she was required to wear a mask, which was fine with her. If a mask protects, the nurses would not be "endangering" their patients.
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I know and that's what I do mean. The vaccine thing has gone too far. We'll see what the Supreme court says. But this whole thing is politically driven. It's not about health.
 
I am not an attorney, nor saying I have any expertise regarding this situation. What I am wondering if it does progress through the court system, would the case actually be about forced vaccination and personal choice, or would the case be something like employee's vs employer's rights? An example may be, the hospital, based on their best medical practice and judgement would not allow an unvaccinated person to work with patients, therefore not being of value to the hospital were fired. The employee willingly refused to meet a condition of employment.

I have actually read one Supreme Court decision, the whole and complete thing ( Gonzales vs Colorado Springs). The actual decision had nothing to do with how it was portrayed in the press. I understand that most cases are dependent on an interpretation of some minor point, and often are only relevant to that one specific case and point, still it was very interesting to me what the point of the decision was.
 
Doctors offices, and hospitals, around here, still require masks. Given all the sick people a medical facility might encounter every day, I would think it only "common sense" that Every doctor/nurse/employee get vaccinated and take the recommended precautions. A couple of hospitals near here have also announced that they will soon require all their staff to be vaccinated.

We're no longer worried about this virus...got our shots 4 or 5 months ago....but, if we were unvaccinated, I sure wouldn't want to go to a hospital or doctor which was downplaying the severity of this virus.
 
Don M. said:
Doctors offices, and hospitals, around here, still require masks. Given all the sick people a medical facility might encounter every day, I would think it only "common sense" that Every doctor/nurse/employee get vaccinated and take the recommended precautions. A couple of hospitals near here have also announced that they will soon require all their staff to be vaccinated.

We're no longer worried about this virus...got our shots 4 or 5 months ago....but, if we were unvaccinated, I sure wouldn't want to go to a hospital or doctor which was downplaying the severity of this virus.
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I have a broken hand or wrist and perhaps multiple fractures in my hand and thumb from a fall last April 2021 which are not healing well because I required xrays but could not go to the ER because of the face covering mandate for hospitals. I hope there will be financial remuneration for me and people like me who are suffering serious and perhaps permanent injury and/or disability due to the mishandling of this pandemic. That's all. These law suits are a beginning.
 
ohioboy said:
The complaint was originally filed in State court and was Petitioned for removal to Federal Court successfully. The nurses first amended complaint is lengthy, but the Court's dismissal order (link) is only 5 pages. A Notice of Appeal to the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals was filed June 14.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsd.1830373/gov.uscourts.txsd.1830373.18.0.pdf
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I doubt the 5th Cir will see it any differently. It seems pretty clear to me. Of course the employer can't force them to be vaccinated; but the employer CAN say that you can't work here if you are not vaccinated. That's two entirely different things.
 
chic said:
I have a broken hand or wrist and perhaps multiple fractures in my hand and thumb from a fall last April 2021 which are not healing well because I required xrays but could not go to the ER because of the face covering mandate for hospitals. I hope there will be financial remuneration for me and people like me who are suffering serious and perhaps permanent injury and/or disability due to the mishandling of this pandemic. That's all. These law suits are a beginning.
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Who in your opinion are likely to be sued?

Our government had given the green light for younger people to be vaccinated with AstraZeneca although medical advice says it should not be used for anyone under 50. The same government has passed legislation indemnifying the doctors who agree to administer AZ to young people who are keen to be vaccinated.

The reason for this is that we have plenty of AZ vaccine but not enough Pfizer to go round.

I will have my second AZ shot in 4 weeks. It is OK for my age group.
 
The visiting veterinarian who comes to our house to do ultrasound and acupuncture on our dog (which is really helping!), had 2 assistants helping her to do her rounds. One was not vaccinated. When the treatments were done outside it was ok for her to be in our yard masked and distanced, but not to touch our dog.

With warmer weather treatments have to be done inside. The unvaccinated assistant no longer gets hours because none of the vet's clients will allow her in their homes.

Could the young woman sue the vet? Maybe. Can't imagine she'd win anything. She's useless to the vet if clients refuse to work with her.

Same with the hospital. If I were hospitalized for any reason, despite being vaccinated myself I would refuse care from anyone I knew to be unvaccinated.
 
chic said:
I have a broken hand or wrist and perhaps multiple fractures in my hand and thumb from a fall last April 2021 which are not healing well because I required xrays but could not go to the ER because of the face covering mandate for hospitals. I hope there will be financial remuneration for me and people like me who are suffering serious and perhaps permanent injury and/or disability due to the mishandling of this pandemic. That's all. These law suits are a beginning.
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It's not the doctor or hospital's fault that you became injured during a pandemic.

That said, I'm truly sorry that your bones aren't healing properly.
 
I support the nurses 100%!

Stranger things have happened when it comes to cases where the general public is under the belief that no case exists, and hoping someone finds a loop-hole somewhere that rules in favour of the nurses.

I don't care what profession you are in, not at any time should any employer (anywhere) be given the right to dictate to it's employees that just because they are employed by so-and-so or work in a field related to such-and-such, they will subject themselves to poisoning. :mad:
 
StarSong said:
One was not vaccinated. When the treatments were done outside it was ok for her to be in our yard masked and distanced, but not to touch our dog.
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That's totally hilarious! 🤣
If viruses existed - which they don't - where do you think they would come from????
The air? The water? Your food? Your furniture? Outer space? Aliens? China? Good grief. :rolleyes:

Or - do you think they are made in the body????
If in the body, then by the definition of viruses, they wouldn't be viruses. <--
You're afraid of something that doesn't exist, and if it did exist then it's always been there, in you and in everyone.

Set aside your fears, and don't be afraid of the truth. The truth sets you free.
 
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Just asked my husband if he recalls any doctors shaking his hand. Maybe, one or two of the specialists. Male doctors may do this more often to another man.

Frankly, I don’t like shaking hands. I hate it if it’s a dead fish kind of shake: I’m tiny but I don’t usually break.

@StarSong I admire your travelling vet for respecting the wishes for her clients.
 

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