Firefighter Died Of Heart Attack After Fired To Make Room In Migrant Budget

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Derek Floyd was just 36 years old when he succumbed to a heart attack four months after he and others were let go by the FDNY to make room in the budget to "free up funds for its migrant crisis" Such a beautiful family. This story broke my heart! But there is a heartwarming update...keep reading. Excerpts from the article:
"Floyd was one of about 10 fire department employees who had been on “long-term duty” — either injured on the job and given office work or out sick for an extended period — and fired weeks before Christmas, FDNY sources told The Post.

Floyd, a veteran who served three tours in the Middle East with the Marines, had been among those working a desk job — toiling in the fire department chaplain’s office — because he had suffered another heart attack in 2019 while he was in the Fire Academy.

The married dad of two young children was trying to become medically cleared to re-enter the firefighting force before he was fired.
Floyd had been just shy of vesting additional medical benefits for his family and more than $600,000 worth of death benefits when he was booted, leaving his family with nothing despite his years of service."
NYC firefighter, 36, dies of heart attack after being fired to pay for migrants — leaving his family with nothing

Update An organization referred to as Tunnel To Towers stepped in and paid off his family's mortgage! God bless them! Here's the link to that story:
Tunnel to Towers pays off mortgage for widow of fired FDNY firefighter Derek Floyd: ‘Miracle’
 

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This is a sad story with a sort of happy ending,
but I am sure his family would rather have him
sitting with them, even if they were poor.

It is nice to read that the family at least have a
roof, over their heads.

Mike.
 

OneEyedDiva said:
Derek Floyd was just 36 years old when he succumbed to a heart attack four months after he and others were let go by the FDNY to make room in the budget to "free up funds for its migrant crisis" Such a beautiful family. This story broke my heart! But there is a heartwarming update...keep reading. Excerpts from the article:
"Floyd was one of about 10 fire department employees who had been on “long-term duty” — either injured on the job and given office work or out sick for an extended period — and fired weeks before Christmas, FDNY sources told The Post.

Floyd, a veteran who served three tours in the Middle East with the Marines, had been among those working a desk job — toiling in the fire department chaplain’s office — because he had suffered another heart attack in 2019 while he was in the Fire Academy.

The married dad of two young children was trying to become medically cleared to re-enter the firefighting force before he was fired.
Floyd had been just shy of vesting additional medical benefits for his family and more than $600,000 worth of death benefits when he was booted, leaving his family with nothing despite his years of service."
NYC firefighter, 36, dies of heart attack after being fired to pay for migrants — leaving his family with nothing

Update An organization referred to as Tunnel To Towers stepped in and paid off his family's mortgage! God bless them! Here's the link to that story:
Tunnel to Towers pays off mortgage for widow of fired FDNY firefighter Derek Floyd: ‘Miracle’
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I feel very fortunate to have been born in America, and I have tremendous respect for all our first responders. Our immigration problems, as bad as they are now, I fear are going to get worse. This story about an FDNY fireman is truly a travesty, and sadly there are probably many more such situations just like this one.
 
TennVet said:
Our immigration problems, as bad as they are now, I fear are going to get worse. This story about an FDNY fireman is truly a travesty, and sadly there are probably many more such situations just like this one.
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When I read further into this story, I saw that this poor man had already had a heart attack a few years ago and was currently trying to get medical clearance to go back to firefighting. He was let go before getting that clearance. This particular story seems to be highly sensationalized and their wording chosen carefully to adhere to an agenda.
 
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Yes, it's so easy to just blame the migrants for everything that goes wrong. This story about the firefighter is about as farfetched as they get. His death was tragic, but why not blame the weather, air pollution, funds being used to fight crime, or pay teachers, or anything else?
 
The man had his FIRST heart attack when he was IN the NYFD training school in 2019, 5 years ago when he was 30 years old. He died at age 35, which in most people's minds is a " very early death ". The wording of this news article is VERY slanted towards blaming a group that had nothing to do with his death, at all. JimB.
 
C50 said:
The advantage of using the CC is you can almost aways get your money back. If you can't cancel the transaction right now keep checking your card as you've been doing. As long as no unknown charges show up you should be fine, but I would expect a delivery fee to be tacked on.
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CallMeKate said:
When I read further into this story, I saw that this poor man had already had a heart attack a few years ago and was currently trying to get medical clearance to go back to firefighting. He was let go before getting that clearance. This particular story seems to be highly sensationalized and their wording chosen carefully to adhere to an agenda.
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Agree that this story is highly slanted. He and the others who were let go were still on probation. He hadn't yet had 5 years with the NYFD.

It's wonderful that the family's mortgage was paid for them, but this story should be seen through the prism of that extraordinary generosity rather then slanted as a a heartless failing of the NYFD.

According to the article, "Mayor Adams has defended the firing of the nearly a dozen probationary firefighters, saying it would misspending “taxpayers’ dollars” to keep them on the job.

“We can’t just say, ‘OK, you were brought on to be a firefighter, you don’t qualify, we’re going to hold you on the payroll anyway.’ We can’t do that,” Adams said."

I can't disagree with Mayor Adams.
 
The articles that I have read regarding NYC and letting people go was all based on the fact that the city got themself into a bind when they were given more than their share of illegals. I heard the Mayor say so himself on CNN. He said specifically that the city would have to make some cuts in the budget and cutbacks in the workforce to continue supporting the numbers of foreigners they were presented with. (Those weren’t his exact words, but the meaning was the same.)

T2T is a good organization, but they never explained how they decide whose mortgage they will pay off or who gets a free home. I told the person on the phone that called me and begged for money that when my questions are answered and I can say they are logical and fair, only then would we donate. I received no answer.

I am not interested in micro-managing their business, but their has to be some order to how a company runs their business and if I am going to give money to them to pass out, then I should be able to learn how they determine who gets what when. Or, at least, that’s my thinking.

BTW, I think this lady was deserving as others that I have read about, but then again, there are a few that I was really in doubt about.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Anyone's death is a tragic event for their family. But to insinuate the fire fighter's death was caused by funds being diverted for migrants is rather lame. According to that reasoning, the fireman's first heart attack occurred when the department was " fully funded ", doesn't that mean his heart attack was caused by "adequate funding"?????? :unsure:
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Neither the article nor I insinuated his heart attack was caused by the budget cut that got him fired! FYI, I was limited in how many words I could fit into the heading (title) so perhaps it seemed that connection was being made. Here are the main points the article makes:
~He lost his job because of the budget cuts to fund migrant care. There's an unjust irony in that. A man who served his country and his community was let go so people who just arrived in this country and have contributed nothing could receive funding.

~Because he lost his job just four months before he died, his wife lost access to benefits, including the $600,000 insurance she would have gotten if he was still on the job. She also is no longer entitled to his pension because he died after being fired.

Makes me wonder how well ya'll did with reading comprehension in school. Just sayin..... 😆
@Shadowman

@Sunny I don't think one can say migrants are being blamed. They didn't make the decision...the city administrators did. The thing is, this isn't the first I've read of our veterans who served this country, being displaced so migrants can get benefits and I don't think that's fair. Do you?

@oldman We absolutely have the right to know how charities we donate to are handling the funds they receive. Charity Navigator used to list how funds were allocated and rate charities (at least partly) based on that criteria. Last time I visited the site, it seemed they have done away with the breakdown of how funds are allocated but still provide ratings.
 
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OneEyedDiva said:
Derek Floyd was just 36 years old when he succumbed to a heart attack four months after he and others were let go by the FDNY to make room in the budget to "free up funds for its migrant crisis" Such a beautiful family. This story broke my heart! But there is a heartwarming update...keep reading. Excerpts from the article:
"Floyd was one of about 10 fire department employees who had been on “long-term duty” — either injured on the job and given office work or out sick for an extended period — and fired weeks before Christmas, FDNY sources told The Post.

Floyd, a veteran who served three tours in the Middle East with the Marines, had been among those working a desk job — toiling in the fire department chaplain’s office — because he had suffered another heart attack in 2019 while he was in the Fire Academy.

The married dad of two young children was trying to become medically cleared to re-enter the firefighting force before he was fired.
Floyd had been just shy of vesting additional medical benefits for his family and more than $600,000 worth of death benefits when he was booted, leaving his family with nothing despite his years of service."
NYC firefighter, 36, dies of heart attack after being fired to pay for migrants — leaving his family with nothing

Update An organization referred to as Tunnel To Towers stepped in and paid off his family's mortgage! God bless them! Here's the link to that story:
Tunnel to Towers pays off mortgage for widow of fired FDNY firefighter Derek Floyd: ‘Miracle’
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What an absolutely bizarre story. Who but racists would link the two events as though one was the cause of the other? It's a sad indictment on the state of journalism that anyone would have approved this nonsense for publication. I guess it's fuel for the haters..........
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Neither the article nor I insinuated his heart attack was caused by the budget cut that got him fired! FYI, I was limited in how many words I could fit into the heading (title) so perhaps it seemed that connection was being made. Here are the main points the article makes:
~He lost his job because of the budget cuts to fund migrant care. There's an unjust irony in that. A man who served his country and his community was let go so people who just arrived in this country and have contributed nothing could receive funding.
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The NY Post is well known as a sensationalist paper so I take their reporting with a large grain of salt.

Even so, it's pretty clear he wouldn't have made it through the probationary period regardless of the migrant crisis. His health problems disqualified him so he was let go prior to the end of his probationary period. There's nothing unjust about that.

According to the article, "Mayor Adams has defended the firing of the nearly a dozen probationary firefighters, saying it would misspending “taxpayers’ dollars” to keep them on the job.

“We can’t just say, ‘OK, you were brought on to be a firefighter, you don’t qualify, we’re going to hold you on the payroll anyway.’ We can’t do that,” Adams said."

He and the others weren't working as active duty FF when released from the FD. Given his medical history, it appears he wouldn't have been able to ever do so.
 
CallMeKate said:
When I read further into this story, I saw that this poor man had already had a heart attack a few years ago and was currently trying to get medical clearance to go back to firefighting. He was let go before getting that clearance. This particular story seems to be highly sensationalized and their wording chosen carefully to adhere to an agenda.
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exactly and then passed onto OPF's for discussion purposes??
 
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I was going to stay in at the hotel, but thought what the heck, he was kind enough to hand me the passes why not grab a cab and go check it out. I was always kind of interested in attending that show. He was a speaker that night and was at the Apple booth showing off the new iPads at that time. He asked me if I would be interested in flying his new plane he was waiting on and quickly offered me almost twice what I was earning at United.

Had it not involved overseas travel, I probably would have grabbed the job. I did quickly tell him No, thanks, but he said to think about it and call me. I never said anything to my wife because she never wanted me flying internationally.
 
StarSong said:
The NY Post is well known as a sensationalist paper so I take their reporting with a large grain of salt.

Even so, it's pretty clear he wouldn't have made it through the probationary period regardless of the migrant crisis. His health problems disqualified him so he was let go prior to the end of his probationary period. There's nothing unjust about that.

According to the article, "Mayor Adams has defended the firing of the nearly a dozen probationary firefighters, saying it would misspending “taxpayers’ dollars” to keep them on the job.

“We can’t just say, ‘OK, you were brought on to be a firefighter, you don’t qualify, we’re going to hold you on the payroll anyway.’ We can’t do that,” Adams said."

He and the others weren't working as active duty FF when released from the FD. Given his medical history, it appears he wouldn't have been able to ever do so.
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The article states he had a heart attack when he was at the fire academy in 2019. Is it likely he was on probation for 5 years? It also said he was assigned to "long term duty" before being fired. Honestly, given his health issues, I'm surprised he was allowed to stay on as long as he did, but it is explained that long term duty was for those who couldn't serve actively as firefighters.

I'd heard in the past and don't doubt that the NY Post sensationalizes stories. Look how many other news outlets also carried this story, including Law Officer, Hindustan Times (geared Indians I take it), UK publications and Black Enterprise. One venue's headline does tie his death to the cutting of the budget in favor of migrant care. Now that's sensationalism..might even classify as click bait ! Check out Newsmax on the first search page. Apparently other news outlets besides The Post thought the story newsworthy. I think anytime something happens with police officers, troopers, firefighters and politicians in a large city, it will make the news. @Shadowman
https://search.brave.com/search?q=n...da33f1&nonce=9b03e201761c912ab9a4272e56b300d1
 
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VaughanJB said:
What an absolutely bizarre story. Who but racists would link the two events as though one was the cause of the other? It's a sad indictment on the state of journalism that anyone would have approved this nonsense for publication. I guess it's fuel for the haters..........
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I don't see it the way you do VJB, and that's okay. Read my posts #12 and #19. I don't know why you feel racism enters into it at all.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
I don't see it the way you do VJB, and that's okay. Read my posts #12 and #19. I don't know why you feel racism enters into it at all.
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Given the tone and words of the original article, I think it's obvious that it's playing on the anti-immigrant sentiment alive and well today. Much of what is written about the Migrant issue is racism dressed in a nice suit. IMO.

The original article sets it out for all to see....
 
VaughanJB said:
Given the tone and words of the original article, I think it's obvious that it's playing on the anti-immigrant sentiment alive and well today. Much of what is written about the Migrant issue is racism dressed in a nice suit. IMO.

The original article sets it out for all to see....
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Oh okay...I have a better understanding of what you meant now.
 
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