First There Was The Affluenza Mom, Now The Rapist Swimmer's Dad

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The dad of a Stanford college student & swimmer who was found guilty of rape and sentenced to 6 months said the sentence 'was too harsh for 20 minutes of action'. This after the prosecutor felt the sentence was too light after trying to get 6 years for the assailant.

http://college.usatoday.com/2016/06...of-rape-steep-price-for-20-minutes-of-action/

I've seen some parents who enable or simply don't get it but this dad along with affluenza mom take the cake. If nothing else they failed at teaching their kids to stay out of trouble regardless of the legalities and/or ethics involved. Maybe we should pair these two up and see what happens, let Darwin take over.
 

(Brock’s) life will never be the one that he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve. That is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life.”
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Brock's life will now be exactly the one he worked so hard to achieve -- for those 20 minutes of "action."

Some race horses race better after they're gelded.
 
I wonder what his feelings would be if it was his daughter or his wife who was raped? It also makes me wonder what form his personal entertainment took when he was a young man? Any women with tales to tell?
 
It is no better here. Some universities have been outed for forcing students to sign non disclosure statements re sexual assault--before or after it has been covered up. This applies to accusations of professor's alleged attacks on students also.
 
The dad doesn't seem to understand that there are certain lines that one does not cross and if they do there will be consequences to endure-FOREVER
 
Simply a case of the affluent placing more value on their lives than the lives of those with less wealth and influence. It seems to be theme these days.. both in politics and in life.
 
Rape is not about sex it is about power. Six months in jail is an insult to women everywhere. "Slut shaming" attitudes are alive and well. I hope that the efforts to have the sentencing judge dumped prove successful. Oddly, sexual predators often turn up in homes where there is no obvious sign of poverty, abuse, mental illness. Perhaps good parenting is not a catchall for deviants. Pity.
 
There are definitely parenting issues here including extreme helicopter parenting. Sometimes one has to just sit back and watch what happens.

Also a related question. When it comes to family is there or should there be blind loyalty no matter what one does? I say no but many assume or expect blind loyalty & support from family.
 
Guitarist said:
Brock's life will now be exactly the one he worked so hard to achieve -- for those 20 minutes of "action."

Some race horses race better after they're gelded.
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Most sexual assaults are about power and control, unaffected by the perv's ability to perform. Though in this case, I think this perv just took advantage of a helpless intoxicated victim. None the less, he has effected her for the rest of her life, my belief , no less should he receive; but then one would think me barbaric.
 
senile1 said:
Most sexual assaults are about power and control, unaffected by the perv's ability to perform. Though in this case, I think this perv just took advantage of a helpless intoxicated victim. None the less, he has effected her for the rest of her life, my belief , no less should he receive; but then one would think me barbaric.
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You are not barbaric at all. I think 6 months for rape is an insult to all women. I've known a couple of rape victims and they carry that baggage around with them forever. Rape is no trivial crime. If the victim was intoxicated that has no bearing on the seriousness of the offense, or, if anything, makes it worse.
 
The PERVERT committed an horrendous crime against a defenseless victim, I don't care what she was on. No one has the right to violate another. If you want my opinion, 25 years and liquid castration , with periodic test to assure he was taking the med, along with psychiatric treatment and evaluation on the danger his release may pose to society, is a workable lenient sentence.
 
The poor boy has gone off his food since going to gaol.

I've been reading about this case in the Australian media.
It appears the attack only ended when two bike riders intervened.
They clearly saw a crime being committed and thankfully did something about it.

What has happened to society that some men don't feel any shame for their actions?
All that seems to register is that their actions have resulted in pain for themselves.
 
senile1 said:
The PERVERT committed an horrendous crime against a defenseless victim, I don't care what she was on. No one has the right to violate another. If you want my opinion, 25 years and liquid castration , with periodic test to assure he was taking the med, along with psychiatric treatment and evaluation on the danger his release may pose to society, is a workable lenient sentence.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
 
WhatInThe said:
Rapist's childhood friend a women says his conviction was from political correctness.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...al-correctness-for-sexual-assault-conviction/

She writes it off as poor decision making and drinking too much.
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WHAT???!! Rape is rape -- without consent, sexual activity is rape, pure and simple -- whatever the circumstances. Yeah, it was VERY poor decision making, but it was still rape, no matter how much alcohol the victim had consumed. GEEZ! What are we coming to? I don't have words to describe how despicable I think this whole thing is, and we should just write it off as poor decision making?
 
From Fox News

Stanford University sex assault case:
To Brock Turner's father, from another father

By John Pavlovitz

Published June 08, 2016


Dear Mr. Turner,

I’ve read your letter to the judge on behalf of your son Brock, asking for leniency in his rape conviction.
I need you to understand something, and I say this as a father who dearly loves my son as much as you must love yours:

Brock is not the victim here.
His victim is the victim.
She is the wounded one.
He is the damager.

If his life has been “deeply altered” it is because he has horribly altered another human being; because he made a reprehensible choice to take advantage of someone for his own pleasure. This young woman will be dealing with this for far longer than the embarrassingly short six months your son is being penalized. She will endure the unthinkable trauma of his “20 minutes of action” for the duration of her lifetime, and the fact that you seem unaware of this fact is exactly why we have a problem.

This is why young men continue to rape women.
This is why so many men believe that they can do whatever they please to a woman’s body without accountability.
This is the reason so many victims of sexual assault never step forward.
This is why white privilege is real and insidious and usually those with it are oblivious to it.

I understand you trying to humanize your son in your letter; talking to the judge about his favorite snacks and swim practice and about the memories that are sweet for you as his father—but to be honest I don’t give a damn and if his victim was your daughter I’m quite sure you wouldn’t either.

I imagine this young woman had favorite snacks and sports too, and parents who had wonderful plans for her that didn’t include this nightmare.
There is no scenario where your son should be the sympathetic figure here. He is the assailant. He is the rapist. I can’t imagine as a father how gut wrenching such a reality is for you, but it is still true.

Brock has to register as a sex offender because he sexually assaulted an incapacitated young woman. This is why we have such requirements; because one vile act against another human being is one too many, because we don’t get a do-over when we do unspeakable things, because people need to be protected with knowledge of others in their midst who have failed so egregiously at respecting another person’s basic dignity.

The idea that your son has never violated another woman next to a dumpster before isn’t a credit to his character. We don’t get kudos for only raping one person in our lifetime. I don’t believe your son is a monster but he acted like one and that needs to be accounted for. To be sure, this decision is not the sum total of Brock’s life, but it is an important part of the equation and it matters deeply.

And to be clear, Mr. Turner,”alcohol and sexual promiscuity” are not the story here. The story here, is that young men have choices to make and these choices define them, even if those choices are made when temptation is great and opportunity is abundant. In fact, our humanity is most expressed when faced with such things, we choose integrity and decency; when we abstain from doing what is easy but wrong.

We as parents don’t control our children. Most parents understand this. Despite our best efforts to the contrary, they fail and fall and do things we’d never consent to. I certainly hope this is such an occasion, though it is not coming across that way in your letter. It feels like you want more sympathy and goodwill toward your son than you want for the survivor of his crime, and that’s simply not good enough for her or for those young men and women watching.

Here is her story.

You love your son and you should. But love him enough to teach him to own the terrible decisions he’s made, to pay the debt to society as prescribed, and then to find a redemptive path to walk, doing the great work in the world that you say he will.

For now though, as one father to another: help us teach our children to do better—by letting them see us do better.
John Pavlovitz is a father, pastor and blogger. He resides in Wake Forest, North Carolina. Visit his website: johnpavlovitz.com and follow him on Twitter @johnpavlovitz.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016...brock-turners-father-from-another-father.html
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I hear it all the time. "She was drunk/dressed provocatively,/hugged/kissed me = really wanted it. She sleeps with other guys." This sense of the variability of women's sovereignty over their own bodies, the "right" often to deny that right under a

variety of circumstances, absolutely horrifies me. Put that next to the "I was drunk and didn't know what I was doing was wrong" defence, time to vomit. UNCONSCIOUS always equals rape.
 
Shalimar said:
I hear it all the time. "She was drunk/dressed provocatively,/hugged/kissed me = really wanted it. She sleeps with other guys." This sense of the variability of women's sovereignty over their own bodies, the "right" often to deny that right under a

variety of circumstances, absolutely horrifies me. Put that next to the "I was drunk and didn't know what I was doing was wrong" defence, time to vomit. UNCONSCIOUS always equals rape.
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In order for one to give proper consent ,they must be in a proper state of mind as to knowing what they are consenting to. An intoxicated individual, especially as intoxicated as this young lady, cannot be viewed as being alert/ conscious enough to even make such a decision.
 
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