Flu Shot

oldman said:
I also understand that when a person gets the shingles they are in unbelievable pain for a month or longer.
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My X had the shingles about 3 years ago, he is no whiner, and I tell you, he was all over facebook telling people how horrible it is to have them. I mean he is the original tough guy, seriously, so yeah, I want to vaccine. I still have my chickenpox scars, and remember those weren't fun, but nothing compared to what I've heard about shingles. I heard 1 out of 3 people will get them. If that's accurate, geesh, not good odds:(
 

Denise...That sounds like Hypoxemia. I think I spelled it right. I 'think' your O2 level needs to stay above 90. This will cause shortness of breath.
 
I'll check it out. I didn't hear anything from the docs in emergency like that, but they don't diagnose I don't think. I will write you a pm as I don't want to hijack the thread since it's on the flu;) I sure appreciate your input, and Mrs. Rs, anyone that gave info for me;) Denise
 

oldman said:
Denise...That sounds like Hypoxemia. I think I spelled it right. I 'think' your O2 level needs to stay above 90. This will cause shortness of breath.
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Take that word apart.

HYPO... LOW

OX..... OXYGEN

EMIA.... BLOOD..

Low blood oxygen.. It is not a condition.. It is a symptom.. Something is causing there to be a low amount of oxygen in the blood. It could be anemia.. Less red blood cells to carry the oxygen in their hemoglobin.. It could be a lung problem... COPD or one of the other obstructive lung diseases.... It could be a Pump.. (heart problem).. like CHF, or cardiomyopathy. It also be from high pressures in the lung or peripheral circulatory system causing the heart to work harder BUT... whatever is causing it, it needs to be diagnosed and treated by an MD. Shortness of breath should never be ignored.. because SOMETHING is causing it.

Did I mention that I am a Cardiac Nurse? NO? well..
 
I have been trying to get attention, first to emergency last week, and then I was in yesterday to my cardio, but only saw the pacemaker folks. So the oxygen thing wasn't addressed. I just got off the phone with the cardio nurse Barb, she is really kind and attentive. She is going to run it by the cardio AGAIN. I am about to burst into tears because I don't feel anyone is paying attention, and I've been through this over and over through the last 4 months.

I just got this doc/cardio, plus a new gp because I had to move. So I feel I have to give them a chance before looking further. I admit I was just going with them sending me home until my next appt next wednesday but after reading the article OM sent me, I thought I'm not getting the treatment I may be needing NOW:(
 
My husband and I have just had our flu jabs. Our new health centre runs an express flu clinic on two Saturday mornings. Our appointments were at 9.40/9.42am, we were a little early and out by 9.37am. I call that service!
 
nwlady said:
I have been trying to get attention, first to emergency last week, and then I was in yesterday to my cardio, but only saw the pacemaker folks. So the oxygen thing wasn't addressed. I just got off the phone with the cardio nurse Barb, she is really kind and attentive. She is going to run it by the cardio AGAIN. I am about to burst into tears because I don't feel anyone is paying attention, and I've been through this over and over through the last 4 months.

I just got this doc/cardio, plus a new gp because I had to move. So I feel I have to give them a chance before looking further. I admit I was just going with them sending me home until my next appt next wednesday but after reading the article OM sent me, I thought I'm not getting the treatment I may be needing NOW:(
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I hope something will be done sooner,Denise. I was also concerned that they just put you off for another week. It`s hard to believe that they are not taking your shortness of breath more seriously IMO.
 
Both husband and myself got the flu shot but he got sick four days ago, and all my bones are aching tonight..dang it. Jan 2015..San Diego area
 
Denise, I was concerned to hear of your low blood O2. Around here if someone tests in the 80's, ther are put on oxygen right away& followed closely. Maybe time to get a bit more insistent with your docs?
There was never any choice here for a "high dose" flu shot, never advertised at all. I got the regular one back in Oct. & no problems beyond my chronic sinus stuff, but am feeling kind of betrayed when it is said that the shot given out may not cover this years viruses. Did they not do enough research? Release it too soon or fast? Now they say flu is epidemic in some states, poor little children have died from it. I think the public should demand some kind of accountability from big pharma on what the screw up was this year.
 
Geezerette, I don't take the flu shots anymore due to things I've learned over the years about their ingredients, side-effects and ineffectiveness. I haven't had the flu either since I've stopped taking them. Some people may blow articles off like this as conspiracy or false anecdotes, but I want to hear all sides of any story. I'm not content trusting advice given to me by big corporations or government, who I've been learning are basically one and the same. Not out to change anyone's views, I respect their right to follow their hearts and make their own personal decisions.

The CDC has already admitted that this year’s influenza strain is not a good match for the current flu vaccine. And yet, as in previous years, the universal message given to the public from the government and mainstream media is to “get the flu shot anyway.”

But what if the flu shot itself is part of the problem? Is it possible that the financial investment in stockpiling flu vaccines each year creates a conflict of interest in this public health message encouraging everyone to get their flu shots, even when it is not a good match for the strains of flu currently making people sick? Could the flu shot itself be making people sick, and even causing deaths?

37 Year Old “Healthy” Woman Dies from Flu, Even Though She Received the Flu Shot

Fox 4 News in Kansas City recently reported the story of a local woman who died from flu complications just after her 37th birthday. Her family reports that she was healthy, and that she was required to receive the flu shot because she was a nursing student. Here is the report:

- See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/cou....jLaDt62H.dpuf
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I understand that even if the vaccine does not contain the exact strain, the antibodies from related strains may help to make the flu less severe than it might have been with no vaccine. I'll take that.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Geezerette, I don't take the flu shots anymore due to things I've learned over the years about their ingredients, side-effects and ineffectiveness. I haven't had the flu either since I've stopped taking them. Some people may blow articles off like this as conspiracy or false anecdotes, but I want to hear all sides of any story. I'm not content trusting advice given to me by big corporations or government, who I've been learning are basically one and the same. Not out to change anyone's views, I respect their right to follow their hearts and make their own personal decisions.
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Same here. I think I posted where some even think excessive vaccination can lead to some elderly dementia. I think I've had one true flu as an adult with fever and congestion. I've been bombarding my body with vitamins of various kinds for decades which many friends and family don't do. I've also worked out and made sure to eat things like protein, fruit and veggies. It is choice as an adult especially for just "a" particular strain of the flu. The only family with flu and related issues were/are by coincidence heavy drinkers as well. The pharmacy chains and other are not offering "free" vaccinations out of the goodness of their heart.
 

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