Food or Frankenfood?

Anyone remember years ago when they had 'proven' that vegetables had feelings, too?? They 'screamed' when they were cut, etc. Jan, you're torturing those poor helpless veggies.....:eek: :p
 

Anne said:
Anyone remember years ago when they had 'proven' that vegetables had feelings, too?? They 'screamed' when they were cut, etc. Jan, you're torturing those poor helpless veggies.....:eek: :p
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... and responded to classical music, and had auras ... yep, I remember that well.

From a philosophical standpoint they have just as much right to life as a cow or a pig. Or a human.

It's only our superiority complex that changes things around. That and, I suppose, the need to eat something. :p
 
Oh yes, I used to sing to my garden. Auras, aura healing, everything psychic - as yes, the good old days. Let's discuss it, say in about fifty years or so, okay? Gee, all those UFOs who we were sure were about to make contact haven't actually made a big splash either yet. Guess I've got to turn in my NICAP & APRO membership cards! But I digress - didn't actually become a veggie due to any screams. Dr. Neal Barnard's books turned me for the selfish sake of my own health. Have you watched the life a fat molecule and seen how it survives intact to your gluteus maximus?
 

I honestly do not think about the food I'm eating; what it is, where it came from, what may be in it, what might have been done to it, what it might do to me. If I did, I would never eat again.
 
The auras and UFOs - well, I guess it depends where you have your conversations, but the Internet has brought "The Believers" together in a way that was never before possible, so I would venture to say that such topics are alive and well.

Fat gets a bad rep from many places, but as the Paleo Diet points out you NEED fat in your body - it doesn't work very well without it. Of course excesses of anything are to be avoided, and the reason that our culture vilifies fat to such a degree is because it has been used to excess in certain foods and we no longer get the amount of exercise needed to control it. Getting the proper cuts or preparing the food properly cuts down dramatically on fat content, but as anyone who has gone on a fat-free diet could tell you the food tastes like shoe-leather.

In my humble opinion pure vegans have a LOT more to worry about in regards to balancing their body chemistry than your everyday omnivore. Two very different problems, two very different approaches, each requiring a different solution.

From my Taoist philosophy viewpoint you need both Yin and Yang - veggies and meat - in order to be balanced.
 
How about this - YOUR body tells you what it needs. I don't think we all need or want the same things. Well, this sounded pretty good to me when I started it out - then I thought about chocolate - oh well! Let me put it this way, I'm too old to have to eat stuff I don't like - and I HATE meat, okay? I can actually remember hating it as a very young child. That's just me.
 
janfromflorida said:
How about this - YOUR body tells you what it needs. I don't think we all need or want the same things. Well, this sounded pretty good to me when I started it out - then I thought about chocolate - oh well! Let me put it this way, I'm too old to have to eat stuff I don't like - and I HATE meat, okay? I can actually remember hating it as a very young child. That's just me.
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Nothing wrong with that approach at all - in fact it's very close to the one I use. I've always thought that the kicker is the "Chocolate Clause" that you referred to: we have to have a clear enough understanding of our bodies, be able to listen to them closely enough and interpret the results of that listening to be able to give ourselves what we truly need.

My body, for instance, constantly cries out for pepperoni pizza. If I listened to it without thinking I'd look like Jabba the Pizza-Hut right about now.

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So like an attentive parent I try to give it what it needs while only occasionally rewarding it with what it wants.
 
I remember the heated discussions on vegans, vegetarians, etc., from the Art Bell forum years ago...some said 'meat-eaters stink', others that a vegan diet will make you terribly ill. I guess, try it; if it doesn't work for you, or if you simply can't stand to eat that way, do something else. Personally, I like some meats, but we do have a variety in our diet, along with lots of veggies, and so far, so good.

Anyway, if everything has feelings and screams when we cut it, what the heck are we supposed ot survive on??! :cool:
 
I have to admit that I am a chocolate snob. DO NOT give me any of that bottom shelf crap. I want the best! MMMMMmmmmm chocolate. Real chocolate.
 
Ever since I worked at General Foods and had intimate encounters (not THOSE kinds!) with Jell-O I've sworn off the stuff.

Skin, boiled hooves, crushed horns, connective tissue, organs, cancerous dyes and flavoring ... yummy! :eek:
 
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How did we ever get the idea that Jello was good for us?? Or, maybe we didn't, but it was easy and tasted good....back in the day, anyway.
 
Boo's Mom said:
huh? Sports fans! ...Excuse me, but not everyone is a painted up, lunatic, crazed fan..

:cool: Some of us are cool, and don't hurt anybody. :D
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No, I'm sure that the referees who stab players on the field, the riots and resulting injuries and deaths during and after games, the trashing of towns ... they're all just exceptions, right? I mean, we hardly EVER hear about THOSE, correct? :playful:
 
SifuPhil said:
No, I'm sure that the referees who stab players on the field, the riots and resulting injuries and deaths during and after games, the trashing of towns ... they're all just exceptions, right? I mean, we hardly EVER hear about THOSE, correct? :playful:
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I blame it on Frankenfood...
 
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SifuPhil said:
No, I'm sure that the referees who stab players on the field, the riots and resulting injuries and deaths during and after games, the trashing of towns ... they're all just exceptions, right? I mean, we hardly EVER hear about THOSE, correct? :playful:
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OK, sorry to thread jack .:playful:... Need another thread on our violent society.. well, maybe a book!

Back to Frankenfood ......
 

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