Football Brawl. Player Hit With Helment While Another Kicked In Head

I watched that last night. I believe there was 8 seconds on the clock, not 5 -- not that it matters.

So the team that will win (when the clock runs out) attacks the other team's QB? Pretty stupid -- you already won, why are you mad?
 
treeguy64 said:
The guy using the helmet as a weapon should be charged with felonious assualt. He probably won't be, as the NFL seems to have the ability/$$$$ to keep most of their felons in training out of our court system
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I was wondering that too because this went beyond fist to cuffs. Although spur of the moment he intentionally pulled the helmet off then immediately used it as a weapon. What's not getting talked about yet is a Pittsburgh Steelers player in white kicks a player in the head while on the ground which is just as bad.

Local police seem to be reluctant in many sports to charge players involved in game incidents.
 
The aggressiveness that makes them fierce players also makes them.....uh....aggressive. A field full of young men super-charged with testosterone and what's going to happen? Fights.

But, yes, they definitely should be charged with assault, the same as an office worker would be if he attacked another worker when a meeting didn't go well. There's no difference....they "work" on a field and the office worker toils inside an office. Their job is to push other players around....WITHIN THE RULES...and when they step outside the bounds of their job, they should be penalized to the full extent of the law. But, as Tree and What say, the rules seem to be different when big money is involved.
 
toffee said:
woweee I thought English footy was bad enough ----------------
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Although I've only been watching the NFL since 1991, I've *never* seen (or heard about) anything like this.

Sometimes a losing team -- with a game that matters, which this one didn't -- will get into a little scuffle out of frustration, but never anything like this. And I still don't know why the team that will officially win in 8 seconds attacked the losing team.
 
How is this not criminal? Why has there been no mention of charges being filed ?

Answer, because it involves a football player.

And yet [we] wonder why the average street thug thinks they should be able to get away with doing [whatever]. Because the hero sports people do all the time.
 
It comes down to this: unless the injured player can prove that he did nothing to provoke a retaliation response and is willing to file a complaint with the police, the police are very hesitant to intervene on their own.

I can’t remember the year, but there was an incident in the NHL where a hockey player whacked an opponent across the head with his stick. This caused great injury to the attacked player and also outraged hockey fans everywhere. The player who assaulted the other player was fined, suspended and sentenced to one day in jail. There were additional incidents in hockey, but the outcome produced only suspensions and fines. It seems to me that the courts are also very hesitant to hand down sentences that would stop sports violence.

I hear it all the time, “It’s just part of the game.” The old joke told by Rodney Dangerfield, “I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.” People (fans) love violence in contact sports, like football and hockey. Even during a baseball game, the fans cheer when the benches clear. It’s almost ironic in that the violence that we punish if it happens within the public, some people glorify when the same violence happens on the field or the ice.
 
rgp said:
How is this not criminal? Why has there been no mention of charges being filed ?

Answer, because it involves a football player.

And yet [we] wonder why the average street thug thinks they should be able to get away with doing [whatever]. Because the hero sports people do all the time.
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I don’t know Ohio law, but if that game was played in Pennsylvania, the injured player would have to file a complaint with the police. The NFL could also file the complaint on behalf of the injured player, but they would need to prove that it was unprovoked. You don’t necessarily have to take the first punch to be provoked, but if someone called me a #$%#$%, that may be enough. It may still be assault, but to a lesser degree. This is why I tell people that it’s complicated.

The law isn’t always cut and dry like we think.

I would also like to add, if that happened to me, I would have retaliated and no one wants to feel my wrath. OTOH, if I was hurt too badly to retaliate, I would definitely be filing a charge, regardless of what my fellow football players would think.
 
Miles Garrett was the #1 overall pick in the draft so he is making big money. He will lose six paychecks and be fined. He is a record holder for penalties and his team ranks number one in most penalties and yards penalized. Garrett will be out hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
fmdog44 said:
Miles Garrett was the #1 overall pick in the draft so he is making big money. He will lose six paychecks and be fined. He is a record holder for penalties and his team ranks number one in most penalties and yards penalized. Garrett will be out hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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OK, that's fine but.......he assaulted a person on live TV....there is no doubting that. He should be charged...period.........jmo.
 
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Garrett kind of reminds me of Jack Tatum. Davis made the comment on TV after his retirement that Al Davis paid his players extra if anyone would knock an opponent out of the game and extra, extra pay if they would take out the other team’s quarterback.

If that was true (and it probably was) that would have been against NFL rules, even back then. I like to watch football games and the hard “legal” hits. I don’t like seeing a player being taken off the field due to an illegal hit.
 
rgp said:
OK, that's fine but.......he assaulted a person on live TV....there is no doubting that. He should be charged...period.........jmo.
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I agree, but who is going to file the complaint? Players don’t like doing it because they are looked at as being a cry baby or a namby pamby.
 
911 said:
I agree, but who is going to file the complaint? Players don’t like doing it because they are looked at as being a cry baby or a namby pamby.
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Well, yeah I hear ya but........IMHO the local P/D should.... file the charges. I know they have to have seen it.

Would one, or several coppers ignore an assault they might witness on the street? I don't think so. Your a cop, would you ?
 
rgp said:
Well, yeah I hear ya but........IMHO the local P/D should.... file the charges. I know they have to have seen it.

Would one, or several coppers ignore an assault they might witness on the street? I don't think so. Your a cop, would you ?
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If I was still an active state cop and witnessed an assault, I would have to be certain that the victim was willing to testify in court of his being assaulted. Otherwise, the court would dismiss the case. Players are usually not willing to file a complaint or testify.

OTOH, if serious bodily injury occurs and I have proof of who the assailant was, the court would rule accordingly. A punch in the nose is nothing compared to loosing teeth or sustaining broken bones.
 

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