Football Season

Marie:
I'm so disappointed that I sort of wish Buffalo would beat them 50+; dang I'm tired of the 'boy's having 'the best personal in football (alleged) and performing like a bunch of-well my analysis would not be tolerated.

'Don't throw me the ball, I'll drop it."
'Don't depend on me, I'm deeply involved with my investment counselor.
'This game won't mess up my looks and spoil me for my 100 K's commercials will it?'
Plus a bunch of 'nanny whines.'
Boys are doing well, it would be a different story of they
were playing in Buffalo.

(Coach, Jason Garrett is on the hot seat, why are broadcasters telling me he is a good coach.)
 

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Yes, I do remember that, Marie. :sneaky:
This is their best year that I , myself, can personally remember. That good young QB seems very good, and other players of theirs, also.

Another bad day and week for Dallas. :oops::rolleyes:
 
Marie
Buffalo certainly did not choke in 2nd half this week, they beat cowboys with ugly stick for thirty minutes.
 
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I am a Steelers fan. My uncle George played for Pittsburgh from 1952-1963- then he moved on to the Eagles and Broncos.
When I was a young lad I remember my Mom saying, "That's your uncle, my brother, on TV playing." I just went out to play. Didn't watch. It was 1965, 1966.
 
Jerry Jones made statements last week, after loss to Pats, if Cowboys don't beat Buffalo-Coach Jason Garrett will be gone. He has spent week distancing himself from that statement.
"We have each other's back'...Jones better not fire his coach, who would we have to blame then.
Jones has provided the personnel, why they stumble, flop around, whine, cry,
I cannot tell you why they cannot win.
I'm starting to think, "Were so good, all we have to do is show up, the other teams will collapse." There a good team there is no reason for their record.

One of the talking heads said, 'They have too much self-induced pressure,
the know they should win, each week they put the pressure on themselves."

Changes have to be made-which ones? The standard approach is to fire the coach, is that the solution? We can't fire all the players, can't fire the owner...

Well, a good game is coming up: 49's vs Ravens, can 49's stop Raven's QB?
 
Jerry, you are a guy my husband would have become fast friends with. Just for the chance to discuss football at length. Especially after a Bills game. It is nights like this, after a big win I miss him. He was patient explaining stuff to me
 
@jerry r. garner @Marie5656
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I'm looking forward to two games on Sunday ..1) 49ers' at Ravens an afternoon game ... and 2) Pats at Texans on Sunday nite.
Pats are supposedly hit hard with the flu bug this week, but can that slow them down? Brady isn't one of the sick.
 
I am a Steelers fan. My uncle George played for Pittsburgh from 1952-1963- then he moved on to the Eagles and Broncos.
When I was a young lad I remember my Mom saying, "That's your uncle, my brother, on TV playing." I just went out to play. Didn't watch. It was 1965, 1966.
My first cousin, Jay Riemersma played TE for the Steelers in the late 90s-2004. My younger brother played for Purdue in the mid 90s. He was starting LT and had the pleasure of blocking for Mike Alstott in college. I also had the pleasure of watching Kirk Cousins play HS football for Holland Christian, he was a year older than my oldest nephew, who played against him. I used to live In Holland, MI and my nephew played for Zeeland, MI (same HS as my cousin Jay and my brother). Football really does run in my blood.
 
I seem to be the only Seattle fan here, so I will pipe in on stuff regarding my Hawks. Their defensive turnaround has more to do with their acquisition of Quandre Diggs than Clowney. Nothing against Clowney, but Carrol’s D thrives with great safety play. This season, their D looked like garbage without a solid free safety. Diggs fills that role well and it has shown the last two games. Which brings me to the point of why I never became a Detroit Lions fan. That team is cursed. They were using Diggs as a SS and in the past had used him at CB because of his speed yet never gave him a shot at his true calling; Free Safety. Anyways, I know Carrol’s defensive philosophy and Diggs belongs with the Seahawk. BIG TIME! Detroit gave him up for a fifth. Lol.
I don’t know if this defensive turn is enough but Seattle is a very resilient team with an OUTSTANDING QB. It’s gonna be very exciting from here on out. GoHawks!
 
NFL Week 13 Predictions
NY Times by Benjamin Hoffman Nov. 29, 2019 Annotated by Lethe200, in italics

Thursday’s Matchups
For the NFL’s three Thanksgiving games, Chicago took care of business, getting a 90-yard go-ahead drive in the final three minutes from Mitchell Trubisky. But the bettors' faith in both Dallas and Atlanta was unwarranted. The Cowboys lost handily to Buffalo at home, 26-15, and Coach Jason Garrett got the dreaded vote of confidence from team owner Jerry Jones. In the night game, the Falcons kept things interesting against the New Orleans Saints by recovering two onside kicks in the fourth quarter. But Atlanta was ultimately undone by its lack of pass protection, with QB Matt Ryan enduring nine sacks and committing three turnovers. Thanks to the 26-18 victory, the Saints (10-2) clinched their third consecutive NFC South division title.

Sunday’s Best Games (all times EST)
49ers at Ravens, 1 p.m., Fox
Pick: Ravens
Facing Green Bay, Baltimore and New Orleans in consecutive weeks in the second half of the season, with division rival Seattle (9-2) staying close, any misstep from SF (10-1) could change at the top of the NFC West. The 49ers started their three-game trial by fire in style crushing the Packers, 37-8, but now they face a far more difficult task in trying to slow down Lamar Jackson and the Ravens (9-2).

No other teams play like Baltimore. QB Lamar Jackson rushes more than any modern QB, which is a problem for defenses in itself, but he is also terrifically efficient as a passer. Over his last three games, he has thrown 12 TD passes and only 14 incomplete passes. He has not thrown an interception since Week 5. The team has produced more than 400 yards of offense in six of its 11 games.

SF can do its fair share of scoring as well, especially with TE George Kittle, WRs Emmanuel Sanders and Deebo Samuel all likely to play despite lingering injuries. But the relative strengths of these teams seem to favor the Ravens. If there is a weakness to SF's star-studded D, it is that it focuses its pressure in the interior, allowing mobile QBs to run their way out of broken plays. AZ’s Kyler Murray and Seattle’s Russell Wilson gave them fits.

Agree. SF is an over-achiever this year, and Baltimore feels like 2019's hot team. Unless Jackson gets injured, the Ravens might be the ones to put an end to the Patriots' SB appearance streak. SF had a horrific 2018 injury year, and hasn't been entirely free of the hex even now.

Browns at Steelers, 1 p.m., CBS
Pick: Browns Agree
The Browns (5-6) are trending upwards, having won three straight and cleaned up its inefficient offense quite a bit. Pittsburgh (6-5) is always a threat to force turnovers, especially with safety Minkah Fitzpatrick. But the Steelers have been bad enough on offense that they would need Fitzpatrick to run some of those interceptions back for TDs to make them a dangerous team.

Patriots at Texans, 8:20 p.m., NBC
Pick: Patriots Agree
The NFL’s stingiest scoring defense has paid big dividends for the Patriots (10-1), who are tied for the best record in the NFL despite having an offense that seems to regress a bit more each week. Any doubts that existed about weak opponents evaporated last week when the Patriots shut down the high-powered Dallas offense in a 13-9 win. That game solidified NE’s defensive reputation while emphasizing its offensive shortcomings. The Texans (7-4) are not as explosive as Dallas, and not as good over all as Baltimore, but they represent a fairly stiff road test for the Patriots. Barring NE’s offense figuring out what has gone wrong, this game has upset potential.

Titans at Colts, 1 p.m., CBS
Pick: Colts Agree
When the Titans (6-5) promoted Ryan Tannehill to starting QB, things immediately turned around. The team is 4-1 with Tannehill under center, and the last two weeks have seen the Titans find the right mix of a power running game led by Derrick Henry and an efficient passing game by Tannehill, which has resulted in a whopping 77 points. The team’s defense has not appeared to be nearly as impressive, but there are underlying indicators that suggest the Titans have it in them to defend the run, which could be a problem for a Colts team (6-5) that relies so heavily on its ability to grind games out on the ground.

Sunday’s Other Games
Raiders at Chiefs, 4:25 p.m., CBS
Pick: Chiefs Agree
In the second year of Coach Jon Gruden’s comeback, the Raiders (6-5) have improved a great deal, even after last week’s shellacking by the Jets. Oakland has scored big in the draft, snagging five players (Clelin Ferrell, Josh Jacobs, Maxx Crosby, Foster Moreau and Hunter Renfrow) who immediate huge contributors. But Oakland allows too many big plays; an NFL-high 55 plays for 20 or more yds. KC’s ultrafast WR Tyreek Hill is expected to be back for the Chiefs (7-4). That big-play potential makes KC a big favorite at home. It is worth noting the Chiefs have not been the scoring machine they were in 2018.

KC is not the offensive sensation it was in 2018, but they are still way ahead of the Raiders, who need another good draft and some help from a couple of good FAs in the next off-season.

Packers at Giants, 1 p.m., Fox
Pick: Packers Agree
With losses in two of their last three games, including that ugly one against SF, the Pack (8-3) has established they are good but not great. They are almost assured of a playoff spot, and with QB Aaron Rodgers they will always be dangerous. But regardless of their impressive record, they are not on the same level as SF, Seattle or NE. Last year at this point they were 4-6-1 on the way to a 6-9-1 finish, so the improvement in Year 1 under Coach Matt LaFleur is clear. A win over the Giants (2-9) would give GB a 96% chance of making the playoffs. For now that will have to be enough.

Eagles at Dolphins, 1 p.m., Fox
Pick: Eagles Agree
The playoffs seem like a remote possibility for the Eagles (5-6), even accounting for their soft upcoming schedule. They are a game below .500, they trail Dallas by half a game, and they have scored a total of 19 points over the last two weeks. They can stay alive with a win over the Dolphins (2-9), for a 44% chance of qualifying for postseason play.

Buccaneers at Jaguars, 1 p.m., Fox
Pick: Jaguars upset Agree
Going on the road to face the Jaguars (4-7) presents Tampa Bay with an interesting challenge: The Bucs' front seven is more than capable of shutting down RB Leonard Fournette.Bbut its secondary, even after last week’s minor success, seems ripe to be shredded by Jag QB Nick Foles, who should be rounding into form in his third game back from injury.

Rams at Cardinals, 4:05 p.m., Fox
Pick: Cardinals upset Agree
The Rams (6-5) bottomed out last week. They have struggled in 2019, looking like a shell of the team that played in the Super Bowl in February, but none of their previous losses could compare to the embarrassment of having Lamar Jackson and the Ravens beat them, 45-6, at home. The Cardinals (3-7-1) seem to have an upward trajectory, even amid a four-game losing streak. Coach Kliff Kingsbury’s offense has shown repeatedly it can put a healthy amount of points on the board. AZ’s last three losses (two to SF and one to Tampa Bay) have come at a total margin of only 16 points. On talent the Rams should be expected to win, even on the road, but the same was true in several of their recent losses.

Jets at Bengals, 1 p.m., CBS
Pick: Jets Agree
With QB Sam Darnold hitting his stride (against fairly weak competition), the Jets (4-7) have scored 102 points over their three-game win streak. The Bengals (0-11) have only scored 157 this entire season. Add in the Jets’ defense having suddenly started to produce turnovers (five in the past three games) and Cincinnati seems destined to continue its losing streak.

Chargers at Broncos, 4:25 p.m., CBS
Pick: Chargers Agree
The Chargers (4-7) have lost two in a row, but more important is how they lost. Philip Rivers essentially handed the Chiefs and the Raiders wins by throwing an outrageous 7 interceptions in those two games (while having a few more erased by penalties). LAC has a solid defense and two strong RBs, but there is little a team can do when Rivers short-circuits. The Broncos (3-8) are not the toughest opponent and with the expected return of LAC safety Derwin James, if Rivers can stop shooting himself in the foot, they could come away with a win on the road.

Redskins at Panthers, 1 p.m., CBS
Pick: Panthers Agree
The Redskins (2-9) delivered the expected limp win over the awful Lions. This week they are on the road to face the Panthers (5-6), a team that is better than them in nearly every way.

Monday’s Matchup
Vikings at Seahawks, 8:15 p.m., ESPN
Pick: Seahawks Agree
The Seahawks (9-2) won an OT thriller against the 49ers two weeks ago and followed it up with a bruising win over Philadelphia. With a win over the Vikings (8-3), the Seahawks would keep the screws to SF even if the 49ers can beat Baltimore. In a sharp turn from previous seasons, Seattle does not have a defense that can claim to be nearly as strong as Minnesota’s. Both teams feature balanced offenses which can run and throw with ease.

Thanks to a brilliant season by QB Russell Wilson, the opponents’ score has been largely irrelevant. Playing at home in prime time, especially once you factor in Minnesota’s historical issues with outdoor road games, it's likely it will once again be the recipe for success.
 
I seem to be the only Seattle fan here, so I will pipe in on stuff regarding my Hawks. Their defensive turnaround has more to do with their acquisition of Quandre Diggs than Clowney. Nothing against Clowney, but Carrol’s D thrives with great safety play. This season, their D looked like garbage without a solid free safety. Diggs fills that role well and it has shown the last two games. Which brings me to the point of why I never became a Detroit Lions fan. That team is cursed. They were using Diggs as a SS and in the past had used him at CB because of his speed yet never gave him a shot at his true calling; Free Safety. Anyways, I know Carrol’s defensive philosophy and Diggs belongs with the Seahawk. BIG TIME! Detroit gave him up for a fifth. Lol.

Good insight, thanks! Good luck vs Vikes next Mon.
 
Buckeye
You know it is at the big house, these guys been bumping heads for almost 100 years and their rivalry is intense. It is difficult to go against OH; sorta want to, but can't do it.

Bonnie
Two good ones: Looking at 49's and Ravens-49's have most complete team in the league. If anybody going to stop Ravens it's 49's.
Texans have a QB, not sure that is going to change outcome.


Diomed: We've talked about the generalship of Russell, feel he is the reasons Hawks are in the hunt. Understood, he can't play for defense, but Hawks offense consist of Russell, Russell and Russell-can't wait for 49's second encounter.

Old and in the Way:
That is some history.

Didn't quite understand why vikes paid so much for Cousins; Steelers appear to be own their way down unless this years and next years draft changes things.

Will hold off on Lethe 200, until I have adequate time to give it the study it deserves.
 
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The only regular season game that counts will start at noon EST tomorrow (Saturday 11/30/19). #1 THE Ohio State University vs "that team up north". I spent today practicing yelling at the tv.....

Boy, you know it .... back in the day everything was shut down in Ohio and Michigan when the two teams played!
.. I remember a story told over and over, about Woody Hayes saying that he made sure that they got gas in Toledo before crossing into enemy territory when games were in Ann Arbor.
One of the best rivalries ever .. I grew up and lived in NE Ohio thru those years.
 
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Yes, spent 9 years in Detroit, Wood Hayes was a mess.
Mich vs Mich St was a biggie also, not as big is OU of course.

Remember when Hayes went out of the field and assaulted that rival football player. Woody, Woody-cost him his job.

Buckeye: Where did that THE Ohio State University come from, why does it have to be THE?

The 'Big House' in Michigan hold 107,000 people, can you imagine the traffic jams?
 
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Diomed - not a good day for the Blue. But Harbaugh is our all time favorite U of M coach. jerry garner - Not sure when the University started using "The" - long after I graduated.
 


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