For the unvaccinated for covid 19. A short question.

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I got the chicken pox when I was 17. Missed my first week of college classes because of it. I have not had the shingles vaccine. While I know it is painful and many people get shingles…many do not. I also have not had a flu vaccine since 2014. Did the first rounds of covid vaccines….but the strain not being near so virulent it no longer scares me. People need to talk among themselves or to their dr’s about what is good for them as individuals.
 

... People need to talk among themselves or to their dr’s about what is good for them as individuals.
As you say, but I don't believe my doctor's opinion is his own anymore, he's dictated to from above.
For example, my husband's cardiologist received a warning from Medicare. An excessive number of prescriptions had been issued. The cardiologist took him off his gout rx (prescribed by his endocrinologist). You can imagine the results.
Anyway, today doctors have rules to follow. Not guidelines. Rules
 
I repeat: I have never had chicken pox. Period. The only way I could have got infected was by caring for my mother's shingles (putting lotion on it) when I was eight.

Perhaps. But almost everybody our age group has had CP, possibly from shingles in the situation you describe or exposure to other children, possibly spreading it before they have symptoms.
Some people have no symptoms - but they still have the dormant virus, hence can still develop shingles later in life.
the only way to know for sure is serology - ie blood test to check for antibodies.
 

further t o above - in Australia eligible people who had the old shingles vaccine Zostavax more than 5 years ago can get funded Shingrix - which as previously mentioned is a 2 dose course, minimum 2 months between doses.
 
Spouse and I went to get our COVID and flu booster shots yesterday. We belong to Kaiser Permanente HMO, and all vaccination shots are free.

There was a short delay in approving the COVID booster, and we happened to be visiting our local Kaiser facility for a phys therapy treatment, on the first day the shots were approved. We were pleased to see there was a HUGE line of people waiting in line to get their boosters!

This is the second week and the big lines were fortunately gone. I mentioned the crowds to the nurse, and she laughed and said, "It was like that all week long! And then it continued on the Monday after because all the kids got out of school, so they came in for their shots too!"

I think we both caught a mild case of COVID when it first hit. We were both absolutely dragging, had no energy at all. Sore throat that wouldn't go away, but never developed into anything more serious like coughing. Took several weeks to recover, no fun.

Now we get boosters because like all viruses, the COVID virus has mutated and will continue to do so. We have friends who are unable to get vaxxed at all; they have compromised immune systems so even catching a severe cold is SERIOUS for them.

We do it as much for people like them, as we do it for ourselves. In the last year we've also gotten the updated shingles 2-shot, and tDAP booster. Due for tetanus in a couple of years, I think - that one's hard to remember because it's a 10-yr effectiveness span.
 
Just got back from getting my Covid booster. While I was there, they mentioned a new one, the RSV vaccine. I never even heard of that disease! The nurse said it's a respiratory disease similar to pneumonia, which can be fatal to the "older" crowd. I will go back in a week or so and get that one, also my flu shot, but I prefer to get these vaccines one at a time.
 
Remember when children used to get polio and were crippled for life and then they started getting vaccinated and now you never see it? Remember reading about the 500 million people who died of smallpox? Remember how they started getting vaccinated for it and now it's completely eradicated? Or is that a coincidence?

Anyway. I got the flu and Covid shots last week, and I'm all caught up on pneumonia and shingles shots. I really need to get the RSV shot, my friend who heads the county health department says it's very important.
 
Im going to extend grace to you Della. Hopefully, cognitive dissonance doesnt stop you or others from EVER opening your minds!


Gosh Della - how closed our minds have been! o_O

Now there are animal memes and bible verses and a youtube video and a book! - I am now so convinced Salty is right and all the peer reviewed scientific evidence and research and data is wrong!

or maybe not. :ROFLMAO:
 
I looked up Dr Suzanne Humphries - Licensed in Maine, she practiced nephrology and now describes herself as a holistic health consultant and author.

So she was a nephroligist, not an expert in immunisation

and she is not profiting from her holistic health consultancy or her book - or 'inventing science to profit from it.' - of course not :ROFLMAO:
 
Im going to extend grace to you Della. Hopefully, cognitive dissonance doesnt stop you or others from EVER opening your minds! I hope that this is the beginning of your journey to health. I really do.

"MOST SCIENCE TODAY IS INVENTED BY THE SCIENTISTS THAT ARE GOING TO PROFIT FROM IT"
I'll extend some grace right back to you, Salty and tell you that science isn't an invention at all, but a body of knowledge.

You and I agree that pharmaceutical companies make too much profit from their products, other countries manage to sell the same things for less. However, I wouldn't dream of denying myself and my family of their, often lifesaving. products just because I thought they were over priced.
 
Remember when children used to get polio and were crippled for life and then they started getting vaccinated and now you never see it? Remember reading about the 500 million people who died of smallpox? Remember how they started getting vaccinated for it and now it's completely eradicated? Or is that a coincidence?

Anyway. I got the flu and Covid shots last week, and I'm all caught up on pneumonia and shingles shots. I really need to get the RSV shot, my friend who heads the county health department says it's very important.
People were good in the days of the inventions of smallpox and polio vaccines. So, the vaccines were good.
Today people are ravening wolves, my opinion.
 
I sometimes have to wonder about the mind set that makes people believe such quackery. Same mind set that believed in witchery, black magic, hobgoblins, etc. in the old days. People used to actually believe that if a black cat crosses the path in front of you, it would bring you bad luck. So would breaking a mirror, walking under a ladder perched against a building, stepping on a crack, and a multitude of other nonsense.

Applied to the modern world, this would almost be funny if it didn't bring about avoidable deaths and lifelong suffering, sometimes to the ignorant people's own children. It is obviously not funny at all, it's a tragic example of denying reality (scientific proof) in favor of superstitious nonsense.

Yes, big pharma makes a lot of money. But what about the quacks who promote their twisted take on reality, via their books, speaking engagements, etc.? To a naive audience, finding a Biblical passage (and there's one for absolutely every idea, good, bad, or totally ridiculous), coining a new impressive-sounding term, etc. is enough to convince them. Of course, the drug companies imply plenty of nonsense in their TV ads also; that's what common sense is for. Should something be believed just because it's "different?"

When the nonsense reaches the upper echelons of national health policy (can't go any further without venturing into politics) it becomes frightening and sad, especially when it prevents other people from being healthy, or even alive.
 
My husband and myself had the Covid vaccination today and had the flu vaccination last week. We have no ill effects and noticed we were the only ones in Walgreens this morning when we were there.
 
Rae, it probably depends on where you go, the time of day, day of the week, etc. I've had the Covid shot last week and the RVS shot yesterday. I plan to get the flu shot next week, when I have a doctor's appointment anyway. Each time, I have to wait in line. Most of my neighbors seem happy to get the vaccines.
 
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