For the unvaccinated for covid 19. A short question.

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I got the chicken pox when I was 17. Missed my first week of college classes because of it. I have not had the shingles vaccine. While I know it is painful and many people get shingles…many do not. I also have not had a flu vaccine since 2014. Did the first rounds of covid vaccines….but the strain not being near so virulent it no longer scares me. People need to talk among themselves or to their dr’s about what is good for them as individuals.
 

Muskrat said:
... People need to talk among themselves or to their dr’s about what is good for them as individuals.
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As you say, but I don't believe my doctor's opinion is his own anymore, he's dictated to from above.
For example, my husband's cardiologist received a warning from Medicare. An excessive number of prescriptions had been issued. The cardiologist took him off his gout rx (prescribed by his endocrinologist). You can imagine the results.
Anyway, today doctors have rules to follow. Not guidelines. Rules
 
Pepper said:
I repeat: I have never had chicken pox. Period. The only way I could have got infected was by caring for my mother's shingles (putting lotion on it) when I was eight.
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Perhaps. But almost everybody our age group has had CP, possibly from shingles in the situation you describe or exposure to other children, possibly spreading it before they have symptoms.
Some people have no symptoms - but they still have the dormant virus, hence can still develop shingles later in life.
the only way to know for sure is serology - ie blood test to check for antibodies.
 

further t o above - in Australia eligible people who had the old shingles vaccine Zostavax more than 5 years ago can get funded Shingrix - which as previously mentioned is a 2 dose course, minimum 2 months between doses.
 
Spouse and I went to get our COVID and flu booster shots yesterday. We belong to Kaiser Permanente HMO, and all vaccination shots are free.

There was a short delay in approving the COVID booster, and we happened to be visiting our local Kaiser facility for a phys therapy treatment, on the first day the shots were approved. We were pleased to see there was a HUGE line of people waiting in line to get their boosters!

This is the second week and the big lines were fortunately gone. I mentioned the crowds to the nurse, and she laughed and said, "It was like that all week long! And then it continued on the Monday after because all the kids got out of school, so they came in for their shots too!"

I think we both caught a mild case of COVID when it first hit. We were both absolutely dragging, had no energy at all. Sore throat that wouldn't go away, but never developed into anything more serious like coughing. Took several weeks to recover, no fun.

Now we get boosters because like all viruses, the COVID virus has mutated and will continue to do so. We have friends who are unable to get vaxxed at all; they have compromised immune systems so even catching a severe cold is SERIOUS for them.

We do it as much for people like them, as we do it for ourselves. In the last year we've also gotten the updated shingles 2-shot, and tDAP booster. Due for tetanus in a couple of years, I think - that one's hard to remember because it's a 10-yr effectiveness span.
 
Just got back from getting my Covid booster. While I was there, they mentioned a new one, the RSV vaccine. I never even heard of that disease! The nurse said it's a respiratory disease similar to pneumonia, which can be fatal to the "older" crowd. I will go back in a week or so and get that one, also my flu shot, but I prefer to get these vaccines one at a time.
 
StarSong said:
I'm curious: If you've had shingles twice ad wouldn't wish them on your worst enemy, why wouldn't you get vaccinated to prevent a future attack?
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Why would you assume vaccines prevent illness? Afterall, the drug companies dont make money unless you fall for their lies. The doctors dont teach nutrition but they push drugs. All illness starts in our guts. Our flora is either healthy or sick. Mine is healthy.

When I used to get the flu shot,I was sick multiple times a year with pneumonia. One year,I had it six times! Since 2009,I have seen ZERO doctors. I have injected ZERO poison into my body. I have not been sick even once! I changed my diet to mostly meat,fish,veggies and berries. I love fresh cows milk and breads made with ancient grains. I take zero pills. I dont watch TV with all of the big pharma lying commercials.
I eat all the salt I want and I enjoy my fruit within reason. I dont take any pills whatsoever. NONE. I dont even take an aspirin for a headache. I dont fill my mind with big pharma bull pucky. I never believed the coronna bs. It was all theatre. If only more people knew of Fauci and Gates 50 yrs ago. The millions they made off of the millions they have murdered. Oh and I dont watch the lying legacy news that bends your mind to hate all truth and believe lies.

Hows that for my 2 cents worth?
 
Remember when children used to get polio and were crippled for life and then they started getting vaccinated and now you never see it? Remember reading about the 500 million people who died of smallpox? Remember how they started getting vaccinated for it and now it's completely eradicated? Or is that a coincidence?

Anyway. I got the flu and Covid shots last week, and I'm all caught up on pneumonia and shingles shots. I really need to get the RSV shot, my friend who heads the county health department says it's very important.
 
Della said:
Remember when children used to get polio and were crippled for life and then they started getting vaccinated and now you never see it? Remember reading about the 500 million people who died of smallpox? Remember how they started getting vaccinated for it and now it's completely eradicated? Or is that a coincidence?

Anyway. I got the flu and Covid shots last week, and I'm all caught up on pneumonia and shingles shots. I really need to get the RSV shot, my friend who heads the county health department says it's very important.
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Im going to extend grace to you Della. Hopefully, cognitive dissonance doesnt stop you or others from EVER opening your minds! I hope that this is the beginning of your journey to health. I really do.

"MOST SCIENCE TODAY IS INVENTED BY THE SCIENTISTS THAT ARE GOING TO PROFIT FROM IT"


The polio vaccine actually caused more paralytic polio than before it came out! You will be shocked at the circumstances surrounding the small pox virus. The lies about autism. Everything can be verified. Its not difficult to find the truth if you open your mind and go look. The question is this: Will you?


Learn about the ddt connection, parasites, and much much more.
Read the book "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History"

Suzanne Humphries MD, Roman Bystrianyk

If you are like me and you enjoy listening to a dr talk and explain,watch this video!

Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries​


Fortunately, the world is waking up to the lies of frankenstein science and big pharma . God warned us about big pharma and all their drugs.

Revelation 18:23-24
23 … for your merchants were the great ones of the earth, and all nations were deceived by your sorcery (pharmakeia). 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth.”

Strong’s G5331 defines “pharmakeia” as:

  1. the use or the administering of drugs
  2. poisoning
  3. sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
  4. metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
φαρμακεία pharmakeía, far-mak-i’-ah; from G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):—sorcery, witchcraft.
 
Salty said:
Im going to extend grace to you Della. Hopefully, cognitive dissonance doesnt stop you or others from EVER opening your minds!
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Gosh Della - how closed our minds have been! o_O

Now there are animal memes and bible verses and a youtube video and a book! - I am now so convinced Salty is right and all the peer reviewed scientific evidence and research and data is wrong!

or maybe not. :ROFLMAO:
 
Salty said:
Im going to extend grace to you Della. Hopefully, cognitive dissonance doesnt stop you or others from EVER opening your minds! I hope that this is the beginning of your journey to health. I really do.

"MOST SCIENCE TODAY IS INVENTED BY THE SCIENTISTS THAT ARE GOING TO PROFIT FROM IT"
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I'll extend some grace right back to you, Salty and tell you that science isn't an invention at all, but a body of knowledge.

You and I agree that pharmaceutical companies make too much profit from their products, other countries manage to sell the same things for less. However, I wouldn't dream of denying myself and my family of their, often lifesaving. products just because I thought they were over priced.
 
Della said:
Remember when children used to get polio and were crippled for life and then they started getting vaccinated and now you never see it? Remember reading about the 500 million people who died of smallpox? Remember how they started getting vaccinated for it and now it's completely eradicated? Or is that a coincidence?

Anyway. I got the flu and Covid shots last week, and I'm all caught up on pneumonia and shingles shots. I really need to get the RSV shot, my friend who heads the county health department says it's very important.
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People were good in the days of the inventions of smallpox and polio vaccines. So, the vaccines were good.
Today people are ravening wolves, my opinion.
 
Della said:
I'll extend some grace right back to you, Salty and tell you that science isn't an invention at all, but a body of knowledge.

You and I agree that pharmaceutical companies make too much profit from their products, other countries manage to sell the same things for less. However, I wouldn't dream of denying myself and my family of their, often lifesaving. products just because I thought they were over priced.
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Muskrat said:
Easy for folks our age in the united states to dis vaccines. After all…we pretty much had them all as children. In california you could not attend school without up to date vaccinations. So.
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Plenty of kids were educated out of the school system. They werent subjected to poisons. We just didnt hear about it. I thank God that the younger generations are homeschooling their children in huge numbers now. They arent poisoning their children with jabs because the matrix has been shattered! The truth has gotten out. It cant be stopped. The real science is being spread far and wide.
 
I sometimes have to wonder about the mind set that makes people believe such quackery. Same mind set that believed in witchery, black magic, hobgoblins, etc. in the old days. People used to actually believe that if a black cat crosses the path in front of you, it would bring you bad luck. So would breaking a mirror, walking under a ladder perched against a building, stepping on a crack, and a multitude of other nonsense.

Applied to the modern world, this would almost be funny if it didn't bring about avoidable deaths and lifelong suffering, sometimes to the ignorant people's own children. It is obviously not funny at all, it's a tragic example of denying reality (scientific proof) in favor of superstitious nonsense.

Yes, big pharma makes a lot of money. But what about the quacks who promote their twisted take on reality, via their books, speaking engagements, etc.? To a naive audience, finding a Biblical passage (and there's one for absolutely every idea, good, bad, or totally ridiculous), coining a new impressive-sounding term, etc. is enough to convince them. Of course, the drug companies imply plenty of nonsense in their TV ads also; that's what common sense is for. Should something be believed just because it's "different?"

When the nonsense reaches the upper echelons of national health policy (can't go any further without venturing into politics) it becomes frightening and sad, especially when it prevents other people from being healthy, or even alive.
 
Della said:
I'll extend some grace right back to you, Salty and tell you that science isn't an invention at all, but a body of knowledge.

You and I agree that pharmaceutical companies make too much profit from their products, other countries manage to sell the same things for less. However, I wouldn't dream of denying myself and my family of their, often lifesaving. products just because I thought they were over priced.
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If you are going to reply to me, at least quote me properly and respond to the point I was making. Deflecting is what dishonest people do because they have already lost the argument.
 
My husband and myself had the Covid vaccination today and had the flu vaccination last week. We have no ill effects and noticed we were the only ones in Walgreens this morning when we were there.
 

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