France makes abortion a constitutional right as the first country worldwide

Evil me. As I started the thread I suspected what might have happen. But I started it nevertheless. I'll wear sackcloth and ashes :ROFLMAO:. But to be serious, some people are in favor of the possibility for abortion, others are not. This is valid for women and men also. So why make so much fuss of it?
 

I'll be honest. Reading this thread perfectly illustrates why Christianity is not for me. If such a belief leads to writing some of the posts I read here, then I am repulsed to an extreme degree.
 

Pepper said:
So far that's right. Live with it.
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I'm a man. But even someone as lowly as a man surely can understand that pregnancy isn't a 50-50 equation? Only the woman goes through the physical and hormonal change. Only the woman goes through 9 months of change that will last the entirety of their lives. Babies don't suddenly appear, they are the result of nine months (or so) of change.

In other words, it is never an equal burden, and can never be.
 
Me: Is there any situation in which a woman is gonna have an abortion, but somebody else has the power of attorney, and so they make her have the baby?

Pi : This is a complex legal and ethical issue. Generally, power of attorney is granted to make decisions on behalf of someone who is unable to make those decisions for themselves due to incapacity or disability. If a woman is capable of making her own medical decisions, including the decision to have an abortion, then her own wishes should be respected and honored, regardless of whether someone else holds power of attorney.
However, if the woman is deemed incapable of making her own medical decisions, the situation becomes more complicated. In such cases, the person with power of attorney would typically be responsible for making medical decisions on behalf of the incapacitated individual, based on their best interests and any known wishes they had expressed prior to becoming incapacitated.
It's important to note that laws regarding power of attorney and reproductive rights vary by location, and these situations often require careful consideration of the specific circumstances and applicable laws.
 
VaughanJB said:
Reading this thread perfectly illustrates why Christianity is not for me.
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I'm the opposite, reading this thread I believe more in Christianity. Christianity is rapidly on the decline in the USA and you can see the results coast to coast. More and more as the days go by prophesy is being fulfilled as written in the Holy Book over 2,000 years ago. More and more people with callous hearts fill the world.
Like I said prophesy being fulfilled as we speak:
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
 
ProTruckDriver said:
I'm the opposite, reading this thread I believe more in Christianity. Christianity is rapidly on the decline in the USA and you can see the results coast to coast. More and more as the days go by prophesy is being fulfilled as written in the Holy Book over 2,000 years ago. More and more people with callous hearts fill the world.
Like I said prophesy being fulfilled as we speak:
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
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The Bible says that few people will find "the way". Why did God make this life so hard that only a few will be ok, but the majority will be destroyed?
 
Too many people assume the mother doesn't want a baby, but do you know how many adoptions fall through when the mother sees her brand new baby?

My aunt adopted 2 babies, the first one a darling baby girl, her birth mother was too young but wasn't allowed to keep the baby. The boy was also adorable and both were well loved by the entire family.

I changed my mind about abortions during the Shari Finkbine case. I would never have had an abortion, but I now believe it is a woman's choice. Don't want your girlfriend to have a abortion use birth control, don't expect her to do it all! You know birth control, pregnancy, 9 months long and then 18 +years loving the child to distraction.
 
ProTruckDriver said:
I'm the opposite, reading this thread I believe more in Christianity. Christianity is rapidly on the decline in the USA and you can see the results coast to coast. More and more as the days go by prophesy is being fulfilled as written in the Holy Book over 2,000 years ago. More and more people with callous hearts fill the world.
Like I said prophesy being fulfilled as we speak:
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
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Non-believers aren't necessarily the same people with "callous hearts". I see a lot of Christians I'd say were callous, and I see things done under the guise of God that are repugnant to me. If you take a quick look you'll see some places reporting Christianity is declining globally, and some saying it's growing. Although the fastest growing religion is Islam. Secularism is now becoming more prominent too.

Prophecy dips into magic and I simply don't believe in it. Instead, you can make very general "prophecies" and be assured it'll be true somewhere, at some time. Or you can simply look at trends and patterns and make predictions based on that. You don't need a God for prophecy.

I do appreciate you have a strong faith, and I think that's great. I don't campaign against religion. I simply have to tell it as it is for me, and why we differ in our view. Looking at things historically, Christianity has led us to this place, at least in the areas of the world where it's prominent.
 
Jackie23 said:
Don't you just love it when old men tell women what to do with their bodies....let the Supreme Court decide that men should have vasectomies, you know.. vasectomies are reversible when they want to have children, see how that works....You think there would be a "fuss" ?
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Perhaps a ban on ****** would lessen unwanted pregnancies, even those within the same family in some cases. Courts then could control incest pregnancies. Of course, if it's a legitimate rape, women can stop that from happening you know. ;)
 
Jackie23 said:
No one person, just generally....I think most are aware of the party and those within who are pushing this extremely unpopular and unfair power play on women in this country.
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I understand the point. I just wondered because the recent 6 - 3 decision to overturn Roe consisted of 5 Men Justices.
 
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