Fully Vaccinated ........Covid ....

chic said:
Exactly right. There is hatred here on a level I have not seen before and I have had harm wished upon me by people I have known for years.

People feel so strongly about this issue but some people cannot take the vaccine. Are they to be banned from society forever because of that? To some here, the answer is yes.

The vaccine isn't even a vaccine. They are experimental drugs being injected into you and your children/grandchildren and they have admitted they don't know what the results will be until they test it.

When our dictionaries change the definitions of the words "vaccine" and "anti vaxxer" to comply with the government's agenda, this should set off alarms to people. Didn't anyone read George Orwell's 1984? He was off by a few decades but this is happening now.

If people decide to hate, me then they hate me. I can live with that.

You either die young or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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I am sorry you feel hated, but you are not hated. I certainly don’t hate anyone on SF. There are two people I despise, but they are not women, and win, is so much fun, he is one of the people that keeps me on SF. I can not tell you how to feel, but even the personal comments are not personal because no one personally knows anyone else.

I specifically said I was talking about people who could get vaccinated and don’t. I understand that some people can not get vaccinated and I feel sorry for them. Covid will always be “after” them. A difficult way to have to live.
 

chic said:
Exactly right. There is hatred here on a level I have not seen before and I have had harm wished upon me by people I have known for years.

People feel so strongly about this issue but some people cannot take the vaccine. Are they to be banned from society forever because of that? To some here, the answer is yes.

The vaccine isn't even a vaccine. They are experimental drugs being injected into you and your children/grandchildren and they have admitted they don't know what the results will be until they test it.

When our dictionaries change the definitions of the words "vaccine" and "anti vaxxer" to comply with the government's agenda, this should set off alarms to people. Didn't anyone read George Orwell's 1984? He was off by a few decades but this is happening now.

If people decide to hate, me then they hate me. I can live with that.

You either die young or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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Here's an article you may find helpful in terms of understanding how the developmental timeline of the Covid-19 vaccines were able to be accelerated. The article, was written and presented by Johns Hopkins University of Medicine, a reputable source for medical issues.
It provides insight into some of the innovative ways the traditional timeline for vaccine development & approvals were shortened due to the mounting adverse effects of the Covid-19 pandemic at the time. The vaccines are actually not untested or experimental, just innovative in terms of their development.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline
 
chic said:
Antibiotics are much better than nothing, they are cheap and they are not injected but can be taken orally which means they are not irreversible.
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Modern antibiotics wipe out the beneficial bacteria, raise blood pressure, starve the cells, and wipe out the body's immunity. When elderly people get tied down, paralyzed and intubated against their will in hospitals, the first thing that happens is that their cells are starved with antibiotics. Thus anyone who would survive that abhorrent treatment would be quite lucky, regardless their of their age.

Pepper said:
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I wrote this, then deleted it. Don't know why but what I deleted was "I don't hate you @chic"
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Did you change your mind? :unsure:

Aneeda72 said:
There are two people I despise, but they are not women,
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I'm probably one of them, since I'm healthy, and don't ingest the poisonous shots that are full of such vitriol. 🙄

I'm not afraid of a virus, especially not one that's never been proven to exist, but stay far, far away from modern medical practices.
 

About the antibiotics question, I think there are a few (very few) drugs to fight viral infections, but they are not antibiotics. Antibiotics are used exclusively for bacterial infections, as far as I know. The only real weapons we have in our arsenal against viral infections are the vaccines. In other words, bacterial infections can be cured mesdically, for viruses they mostly tell you to take Tylenol and get plenty of rest.

Obviously, the best "cure" for a viral infection is not to get it in the first place.
 
"When our dictionaries change the definitions of the words "vaccine" and "anti vaxxer" to comply with the government's agenda, this should set off alarms to people. Didn't anyone read George Orwell's 1984? He was off by a few decades but this is happening now."

Golly, Chic, you found out about the government's secret project to change the dictionaries to comply with their "agenda?" Impressive spy work!

Beware, Chic, the government has a whole department devoted to messing with your head! For that purpose, they have come up with words like "vaccine," which was never heard of until Covid came along. Be afraid (of the government,) be very afraid! Woooo woooo!
 
Aneeda72 said:
Have I seen Gary’s post? No, but I know his son died, and I know he thinks it was due to his vaccination, and I am sorry that happened. I am sorry for anyone who gets sick from the ”jab” or whose death is caused by it. But such is the history of all vaccines.

But the rest of humanity can not give up their lives for the sake of a few. Sad, but true. I will not trade my son’s life for the life of anyone else’s son. If someones son has to die, I prefer it to not be mine. If my honestly offends you, @Ladybj I could not care less.

I do not ”wish harm to others”. Others bring/wish harm to themselves, and others, by refusing the vaccine. I simply wish that harm, which they call upon themselves, comes faster in order to save the many who want continue their existence and the existence of the human race.
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Oh, but you DO wish harm to others. You made it quite clear. You would be better off if you just apologized.
" I hope everyone that “chose not to get the jab” and can get the jab; gets Covid, preferably Delta."
 
win231 said:
Oh, but you DO wish harm to others. You made it quite clear. You would be better off if you just apologized.
" I hope everyone that “chose not to get the jab” and can get the jab; gets Covid, preferably Delta."
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Since the others you are speaking of, and yourself of course, do not believe Covid exists, and, therefore, do not believe it is harmful, do not believe the hospitals are filled with Covid patients, do not believe in Covid deaths, and some do not believe in Covid at all, including you, I have not wished anyone any harm.

I have simply wished that the non-believers get an illness that they don’t believe in and which will not harm them-including you. So, you @win231, now take the opposite side/view point. Wanting me to apologize for wishing an imaginary virus to cause imaginary harm to people who don’t believe in the imaginary illness or the imaginary harm or imaginary death that the imaginary illness might cause. People who don’t believe in a vaccine that could prevent such illness, harm, and/or death.

I have nothing to apologize for. It’s all been, 😂😂😂😂, imaginary for the so called non-vaxxers.

Be careful win, your TROLLNESS is showing. 😉
 
John cycling said:
Modern antibiotics wipe out the beneficial bacteria, raise blood pressure, starve the cells, and wipe out the body's immunity. When elderly people get tied down, paralyzed and intubated against their will in hospitals, the first thing that happens is that their cells are starved with antibiotics. Thus anyone who would survive that abhorrent treatment would be quite lucky, regardless their of their age.



Did you change your mind? :unsure:



I'm probably one of them, since I'm healthy, and don't ingest the poisonous shots that are full of such vitriol. 🙄

I'm not afraid of a virus, especially not one that's never been proven to exist, but stay far, far away from modern medical practices.
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Nope, sorry to disappoint, you are not. I actually think one of the people has left, but idk.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Since the others you are speaking of, and yourself of course, do not believe Covid exists, and, therefore, do not believe it is harmful, do not believe the hospitals are filled with Covid patients, do not believe in Covid deaths, and some do not believe in Covid at all, including you, I have not wished anyone any harm.

I have simply wished that the non-believers get an illness that they don’t believe in and which will not harm them-including you. So, you @win231, now take the opposite side/view point. Wanting me to apologize for wishing an imaginary virus to cause imaginary harm to people who don’t believe in the imaginary illness or the imaginary harm or imaginary death that the imaginary illness might cause. People who don’t believe in a vaccine that could prevent such illness, harm, and/or death.

I have nothing to apologize for. It’s all been, 😂😂😂😂, imaginary for the so called non-vaxxers.

Be careful win, your TROLLNESS is showing. 😉
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Putting words in my mouth only indicates your desperation. When have I ever said Covid does not exist? Never. I said the infection & mortality rates are exaggerated.
I hope you are able to wash your feet before putting them in your mouth.
 
win231 said:
Putting words in my mouth only indicates your desperation. When have I ever said Covid does not exist? Never. I said the infection & mortality rates are exaggerated.
I hope you are able to wash your feet before putting them in your mouth.
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Ah, win, win, win, yes, yes, yes, you are right, right, right, as usual. I am desperate for every word you write. I hang on your every opinion. I also have a bridge I’d like to sell you, I could use the money.

But trust me when I say, I would NEVER EVER put anything in your mouth. After all, you have not had your shots. 😂😂😂.
 
Took Bill Gates until this week to admit, the vaccine ain't working like he hoped. :(

Bill Gates: "The economic damage, the deaths. It’s been completely horrific and I would expect that will lead the R&D projects to focus on things we didn’t have today. We didn’t have vaccines that block transmission. We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmission. We need a new way of doing the vaccines.”
 
Aneeda72 said:
Have I seen Gary’s post? No, but I know his son died, and I know he thinks it was due to his vaccination, and I am sorry that happened. I am sorry for anyone who gets sick from the ”jab” or whose death is caused by it. But such is the history of all vaccines.

But the rest of humanity can not give up their lives for the sake of a few. Sad, but true. I will not trade my son’s life for the life of anyone else’s son. If someones son has to die, I prefer it to not be mine. If my honestly offends you, @Ladybj I could not care less.

I do not ”wish harm to others”. Others bring/wish harm to themselves, and others, by refusing the vaccine. I simply wish that harm, which they call upon themselves, comes faster in order to save the many who want continue their existence and the existence of the human race.
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Your honesty does not offend me at at all. You have every right as to how you feel. What about those that doctors has told them NOT to take the vaccine due to medical conditions? I somewhat understand how you feel because I feel the opposite. I want to blame the vaccine on a love one that is going through issues since they took the vaccine - but I realize and accept, I cannot blame the vaccine because I am not 100% sure its due to the vaccine - its easy to blame things on others or other sources instead of looking at reality..I am speaking of my situation - has nothing to do with how you feel.
 
Irwin said:
4.6 million people in India died of covid-19.
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And we know this because? I worked in the medical field for years. Had to verify medical records for various reasons. If I sat down and went through 4.6 million medical records to verify information, then and only then I would know instead of someone making be believe that is true. However, we believe what we want to believe.
 
Ladybj said:
Your honesty does not offend me at at all. You have every right as to how you feel. What about those that doctors has told them NOT to take the vaccine due to medical conditions? I somewhat understand how you feel because I feel the opposite. I want to blame the vaccine on a love one that is going through issues since they took the vaccine - but I realize and accept, I cannot blame the vaccine because I am not 100% sure its due to the vaccine - its easy to blame things on others or other sources instead of looking at reality..I am speaking of my situation - has nothing to do with how you feel.
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I already addressed how I feel about those that cannot take the vaccine several times. I feel sorry for them. They must be very careful, follow the guidelines, and not expose themselves; unfortunately most do not do this.
 
Let's face it, folks, this isn't about vaccines, it's about politics. All the lines, charts, graphs, figures, etc. showing how people voted in the last presidential election and whether or not they are vaccinated against Covid are so inextricably connected with each other that they couldn't be pried apart if we tried. One look at the states with the highest rates of Covid (and Covid deaths) and the lowest rates of vaccination, and then seeing the "color" of those states makes this obvious.

We can't discuss politics here. So what we are having is a thinly disguised, endless "argument" about how dangerous the disease actually is, whether or not the vaccine is safe, effective, or whatever. But it's so predictable how all of us are going to feel about it, and unless we are physicians or medical researchers intimately involved with the facts on this vaccine, we are all simply reflecting the prevailing view of our side of the political spectrum. And by "facts," I mean the real data being provided by labs and hospitals (and unfortunately, morgues), not the "facts" being made up by some crackpot using the Internet as a soapbox.

I have never seen this happen with any other disease. People aren't marching in the streets with signs about whether or not to get a flu shot. Only this disease has become so politicized. Which probably means there will never be a meeting of the minds on the subject.
 
Sunny said:
Let's face it, folks, this isn't about vaccines, it's about politics. All the lines, charts, graphs, figures, etc. showing how people voted in the last presidential election and whether or not they are vaccinated against Covid are so inextricably connected with each other that they couldn't be pried apart if we tried. One look at the states with the highest rates of Covid (and Covid deaths) and the lowest rates of vaccination, and then seeing the "color" of those states makes this obvious.

We can't discuss politics here. So what we are having is a thinly disguised, endless "argument" about how dangerous the disease actually is, whether or not the vaccine is safe, effective, or whatever. But it's so predictable how all of us are going to feel about it, and unless we are physicians or medical researchers intimately involved with the facts on this vaccine, we are all simply reflecting the prevailing view of our side of the political spectrum. And by "facts," I mean the real data being provided by labs and hospitals (and unfortunately, morgues), not the "facts" being made up by some crackpot using the Internet as a soapbox.

I have never seen this happen with any other disease. People aren't marching in the streets with signs about whether or not to get a flu shot. Only this disease has become so politicized. Which probably means there will never be a meeting of the minds on the subject.
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Obvious reasons why no one is marching in the streets about flu shots. They aren't trying to coerce people into getting flu shots by making their lives difficult if they choose not to get one. No loss of jobs or closed businesses. No loss of income. No exaggerated claims about infection rates or mortality. No constant lies. No BS about refrigerated meat trucks storing corpses of Covid victims. No cash prizes, free tacos or tickets to sports events for flu shots. And the flu hasn't been in the news for a long time.
 
HarryHawk said:
Just heard on the news that 35% of the individuals in our local hospitals have been fully vaccinated.
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But they still want you to get vaccinated because......uh....your illness will be less severe and.....uh....you won't need to be hospitalized.
 

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