General racial relations: 70s compared to present

JimBob1952 said:
I had the same experience with the Egyptian CFO of a firm I worked for. Lovely, kind family man who believed fervently in the eradication of Israel.
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I just don't see things along racial lines.

I mean, I can see the phenotype differences and by default disbelieve anyone who claims that they, themselves, don't: they have an uphill road to credibility, in my book.

But really, it is nothing more than the color of your car's paintjob. The actual car, itself, is what matters.

I'm not widely traveled but have met people of varying identifiable backgrounds, and there is something about how each individual interfaces with life that attracts or repells me. Or leaves me neutral, which applies to most people I encounter.

It has very little to do with the identifiable background (race/ethnicity).

There are more layers of complexity, of course, but basically it works that way for me.
 

Perhaps the best way to prevent future racism is to stop telling everyone they are victims. It is not okay to hate anyone because of mistakes made in the past.

Nemo2 and JimBob1952's posts show that decent, kind people learn to be racists. Let's not make that mistake by teaching a whole new generation to hate each based on skin color.

It was wrong in the past, it's wrong today, and it will be wrong in the future.
 
Nemo2 said:
You may want to repeat that over to yourself a couple times and see if you can spot any inconsistences.
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What I was getting at was, I would like to see a Black person's response to your post to know if they agree or disagree with what you've said.
 

JimBob1952 said:
I had the same experience with the Egyptian CFO of a firm I worked for. Lovely, kind family man who believed fervently in the eradication of Israel.
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To give you a small idea of this guy's personality......he sent a bunch of Sudanese guys down to the King's palace in Riyadh at 5:00 a.m. on April Fool's Day...told them that the King was hiring people to travel around the world with him. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Sawfish said:
To what are you referring? Which post of Nemo2's?
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I was referencing Della's post when I said I'd like to see a Black person's response to your post. Nemo2 said, "You may want to repeat that over to yourself a couple times and see if you can spot any inconsistencies." Not sure what he meant by that. But what I meant is, Della talked about white people getting harassed by police for no reason, and referenced the "woke movement", etc. I'm interested to know how a Black person would respond to her comments.
 
Catballou said:
I was referencing Della's post when I said I'd like to see a Black person's response to your post. Nemo2 said, "You may want to repeat that over to yourself a couple times and see if you can spot any inconsistencies." Not sure what he meant by that. But what I meant is, Della talked about white people getting harassed by police for no reason, and referenced the "woke movement", etc. I'm interested to know how a Black person would respond to her comments.
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Thank you.

Clear enough.
 
I'm not responding to this thread, but would like to point out that comments in each thread have sequential numbers to the top right of the posts -- such as post #87 above.
 
Nemo2 said:
Oh, I understood what you said.....my point is, if we're all the same then why would you single out Black responses? Just seems inconsistent.
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Because when people say that white people are stopped by police for seemingly no reason, it's not because of the colour of their skin. White peoples' worlds are much different than Black peoples' worlds (and other people of colour). And I also despise the word "woke." So again, just wondering what Black folks think of Della comments. I'm thinking they would have quite a different perspective. That is all.
 
Catballou said:
Because when people say that white people are stopped by police for seemingly no reason, it's not because of the colour of their skin. White peoples' worlds are much different than Black peoples' worlds (and other people of colour). And I also despise the word "woke." So again, just wondering what Black folks think of Della comments. I'm thinking they would have quite a different perspective. That is all.
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Fair enough.
 
Alligatorob said:
Probably so. It is the one clear measure of racial mixing, which means acceptance. Still not the norm, but a whole lot more common than it was just a generation or so back.
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In truth, I've had a lot of time to think about it...

My honest opinion is that if the human population of the earth were to get sufficiently interconnected that at some point in the future the currently evolved phenotype meld into a sort of indefinable blend, a lot of this silliness about race will simply go away. So rather than seeing the mixing as a sign of acceptance, I see it more as a result of increased interconnectivity. Given enough time, the problem will take care of itself, I think.

Because, you know, when it comes right down to it, sexually driven males will hump farm animals, so at that level, acceptance is nil, a non-factor. However, widespread community acceptance is lacking, at least so far.

But I guess when I wrote the OP I was thinking more along the lines of general levels of trust/mistrust, not lawfulness of matrimony or reproduction.

But yes, it's a valid measure, just not where i was looking.
 
JaniceM said:
Not necessarily. There were probably large numbers of mixed individuals who were put into one racial category simply because of what their physical appearance suggested.
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Much of the time it depends on what the racial mixture is.

My daughter has told me that at college, in class discussions, she would sometimes be counted as a "person of color", and at other times as "white".

Definitely she has some east Asian physical characteristics (hair, eyes, eye color), but probably no east Asian would think of her as Asian, while many whites might think of her as white.

The whole thing is somehow amusing to me, I don't know why...
 
In the South where I grew up the races have always been mixed physically, in the sense of living close together and knowing each other. When I was a kid I knew lots of black people, but never saw them in school, a restaurant (except as waitstaff), or at the movies. The big change now is that we are seeing more intermarriage and mixed race families, as I said still not the norm, but gaining both in frequency and acceptance. It was illegal when I was growing up.
Sawfish said:
Because, you know, when it comes right down to it, sexually driven males will hump farm animals, so at that level, acceptance is nil, a non-factor
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There has always been sexual contact between the races, however in the past it was hidden, not marriage, and the children usually denied by the white father. Thomas Jefferson and his children by Sally Hemmings probably the most famous example. What has changed is increasing marriage and acceptance of the children.
Sawfish said:
However, widespread community acceptance is lacking, at least so far.
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I think that is changing. I was surprised how much it had changed when my niece married a black man and had children.
 
Alligatorob said:
In the South where I grew up the races have always been mixed physically, in the sense of living close together and knowing each other. When I was a kid I knew lots of black people, but never saw them in school, a restaurant (except as waitstaff), or at the movies. The big change now is that we are seeing more intermarriage and mixed race families, as I said still not the norm, but gaining both in frequency and acceptance.

There has always been ****** contact between the races, however in the past it was hidden, not marriage, and the children usually denied by the white father. Thomas Jefferson and his children by Sally Hemmings probably the most famous example. What has changed is increasing marriage and acceptance of the children.

I think that is changing. I was surprised how much it had changed when my niece married a black man and had children.
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I was referring to animal fetishism, facetiously, of course.
 
Jamala said:
Then to add insult to injury, Lady Susan places her hand on the woman’s body, moved aside her hair, to get a look at her name tag. How very rude…I am astounded!!!
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It only takes one finger to move a lock of hair off a nametag, there are pictures of Fulani at the reception with her entire hand covering a much shorter woman's shoulder. Are you astounded?

I'm sorry Lady Susan felt she had to apologize. It should have been the other way around. Fulani pretended to not understand her question about where she was from, causing the question to have to be repeated, she then published their conversation for the sole purpose of making Lady Susan look bad, accusing her of "abuse."

Fulani's actions caused the older woman to be demonized in the press and asked to step down after 60 years of devoted public service. Who is the victim here?

Who is the racist? I would say the woman who's charity for abused women only helps those with dark skin.
 

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