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911 said:
These cities should also worry about the hundreds of lawsuits filed by the business owners and citizens for all the damage and violence of the mobs being allowed to roam the streets and act out in anarchy.
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There are two elements to the civil unrest related to the numerous police shootings of unarmed blacks:
1. The peaceful demonstrators
2. The looters/rioters

I highly doubt that any of the municipalities affected "allowed" the looters and vandals to roam the streets and create destruction and violence.

I feel for the police officers that have ruined their career and their personal lives because of their inability to appropriately deal with an unarmed suspect.
 

Gaer said:
Gentlemen, I apoligize for this question being slightly off topic.
(hypothetically)
Is it illegal to own or use brass knuckles?
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In Pennsylvania they are illegal.
 

Sunny said:
I fear we are morphing into two different countries, which will be at war with each other. In other words, Civil War II.
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IMO the thing that is missing is a charismatic leader for the various groups to coalesce around.

If that person emerges, as has happened in this country and others over the years, it could get very ugly very fast unless they promote a reasonable non-violent agenda for change.

We'll see.
 
Gaer said:
Yes my friend, and if you remember our personal message, and read the posts on this thread, you will understand why. hahaha!
Remember? the bully?
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Yes I remember you telling me.
I was going to say I still don’t get it cause I’d answer anyway .....🤣..... but if it works for you and makes you feel better, then so be it. ✌️👍
 
911 said:
George Floyd should have been given immediate medical attention now that we know that when he was first seated in the back of the police car he already had enough Fentanyl and other narcotics that could have caused his death and why then he was saying, “I can’t breathe.” He should have received at least 1, if not 2 doses of Narcan, but the police probably did not know that he had dosed up on these opiates. I don’t know if anyone else is aware of it, but Derek Chauvin’s attorneys are seeking to have his murder charges dismissed because of this.
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Do you have a link to your sources of information?
 
Pecos said:
I continue to be appalled at the kinds of guns that ordinary untrained people are buying. Instead of being steered toward reliable, simple, easy to operate, sensible double action 38 caliber revolvers, they are pushed into buying complicated high powered automatics that they will never practice with enough to be proficient. Or they are buying these little cheap 380 automatics, because they are "cute."
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The .380 is a nice little pistol that can be very easily concealed and yet is very effective. I carry my 9mm wherever I go.
 
Nathan said:
There are two elements to the civil unrest related to the numerous police shootings of unarmed blacks:
1. The peaceful demonstrators
2. The looters/rioters

I highly doubt that any of the municipalities affected "allowed" the looters and vandals to roam the streets and create destruction and violence.

I feel for the police officers that have ruined their career and their personal lives because of their inability to appropriately deal with an unarmed suspect.
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These looters and rioters that are prosecuted are throwing their life away. These are Federal crimes and getting a job after an employer vets a prospective employee and finds out he/she has served time in a Federal prison, their career is over and all that college money is wasted along with it.
 
911 said:
These looters and rioters that are prosecuted are throwing their life away. These are Federal crimes and getting a job after an employer vets a prospective employee and finds out he/she has served time in a Federal prison, their career is over and all that college money is wasted along with it.
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The looters are already criminals, taking advantage of the confusion. They are the same types that show up to loot when there are earthquakes, hurricanes and widespread firestorms. The peaceful demonstrators seem to get lumped together with the rioters, in the public eye. We had a local group do a peaceful protest, no looting, just local college kids marching and supporting their beliefs. Nobody got to see that on Fox news.

**For the record** I am pro law & order, but not at the expense of constitutional rights. As you know, the police exist to serve the needs of the community that they protect, not visa versa.
 
Nathan said:
The looters are already criminals, taking advantage of the confusion. They are the same types that show up to loot when there are earthquakes, hurricanes and widespread firestorms. The peaceful demonstrators seem to get lumped together with the rioters, in the public eye. We had a local group do a peaceful protest, no looting, just local college kids marching and supporting their beliefs. Nobody got to see that on Fox news.

**For the record** I am pro law & order, but not at the expense of constitutional rights. As you know, the police exist to serve the needs of the community that they protect, not visa versa.
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Well said, Nathan!

In addition, I am horrified at the way this has been turned into an issue of "Are you with the police or against them?" Why all of a sudden does it have to be one or the other?

Like most people, I support and respect the police, as a necessary contingent of civilized life. Yes, if someone was breaking into my home, I woud of course call the police. If a crazed person was running around shooting and killing people at random, I would expect the police to stop him, doing whatever is necessary. I am impressed by the heroic actions of many police officers, taking personal risks in order to rescue people in dangerous situations.

None of that makes it OK for "rogue cops" to decide that it's OK to shoot people in the back or strangle them when they are already down on the ground struggling to breathe, usually with no reason at all. No reason except race, that is. The racial element in this cannot be ignored; it's like the 600 pound gorilla in the room.

I have to wonder what motivates anyone to defend this behavior, which smears the good reputation the U.S. police have generally enjoyed with most of the public. Yes, I know, back in the 60's, student protestors called them "pigs" and baited them with taunts every chance they got. But usually, the police responded like professionals trusted to restore law and order. They did not go around firing at those kids for no reason, often killing them, and then try to proclaim themselves heroes.

There is a big difference between keeping the peace, and behaving like a goon squad. Why let the bad apples take over and ruin the reputation of a formerly honorable group of people, entrusted to help the public remain safe, and all of a sudden turn into an execution squad? Could it be that there is nothing wrong with the "police" per se, but that this institution has been infiltrated by racists and hatemongers?
 
Pepper said:
especially since it's being ignored :unsure:
ps, don't think it was off-topic to ask for clarification.
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Neither do I and to be brutally honest, cause I actually am, it pisses me off when people come in here and add posts like they’ve got some kind of inside information that nobody else knows about and when you call them it, they completely bale.

They act like we can’t distinguish between actual facts and their poorly disguised racism which frankly I find disgusting! If you’re a racist then have the balls to claim your truth. Don’t come here on this board playing these stupid lame-ass ugly head games like the rest of us are gullible idiots. The only thing you prove is how cowardly you really are.

Note: This is not directed at any single member.
 
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