True! It's irresponsible to make such potentially dangerous statements. There are too many people who might take them, literally.Thank God he is safe, unfortunately, two others are dead.
The whole thing scared me half to death.
I don't think the severity of the situation has hit him as yet.
I think someone took what Biden said "It's time to put Trump in the Bullseye"seriously.
Yes, we know there's a gun problem and there are some separate threads for that discussion. THIS one is about political unrest and an assassination attempt on a former president. I hope this thread doesn't deteriorate into still another gun debate. Assassination attempts worldwide are not done with slingshots... guns are used in a majority of the attempts.Oh dear, America has a gun problem!
Sorry, Kate, I didn't want to get political.Yes, we know there's a gun problem and there are some separate threads for that discussion. THIS one is about political unrest and an assassination attempt on a former president. I hope this thread doesn't deteriorate into still another gun debate. Assassination attempts worldwide are not done with slingshots... guns are used in a majority of the attempts.
You know what I was wondering Della?... if sometimes in these types of killings or attempted killings..if the target isn't actually the first victim in that shooter actually wanted to commit suicide, and decided they would take the person they hate the most out with them.... in this case DTThank you, Holly. It wasn't lost on me yesterday that the BBC reported this at least 15 minutes before any of the major American news sources.
I'll be interested in learning what exactly turned this 20 year-old's mind into such a messed up state.
.......Or, be willing to sacrifice his life for his "greater good", his cause? I hope he left writings or videos behind.........shooter actually wanted to commit suicide, and decided they would take the person they hate the most out with them.... in this case DT
yes that's what we usually think of a an assasin.... but I wonder if in some case the target is not the first victim... but in fact the assassin wants to commit suicide knowing that if they take the object of their hatred with them, they'll have... excuse the pun...killed 2 birds with one stone..........Or, be willing to sacrifice his life for his "greater good", his cause? I hope he left writings or videos behind.
Young people, esp. young men, can be very intense.
There's a term for that: Suicide by Copyes that's what we usually think of a an assain.... but I wonder if in some case the target is not the first victim... but in fact the assassin wants to commit suicide knowing that if they take the object of their hatred with them, they'll have... excuse the pun...killed 2 birds with one stone...
"A witness to the assassination revealed he warned Secret Service agents about a man with a rifle on a nearby roof minutes before they opened fire.
I heard on a report the shots were from around 150 yards away. If that's factual I doubt it would have been a shotgun albeit I know next to nothing about firearms.Just a guess here, but I wonder if that was actually a "real" weapon. I mean, it was his head... a real bullet would have done serious damage, no? It's almost like it was something else... any thoughts? Buckshot? Can that travel very far? Obviously I'm just thinking out loud, but a gun and a bullet to a head/ear isn't going to have someone jumping right back up with a little blood.
yes the redhead is ''Greg''..."A witness to the assassination revealed he warned Secret Service agents about a man with a rifle on a nearby roof minutes before they opened fire.
The witness, named only as Greg, told the BBC that he saw the suspected gunman climb into a rooftop outside the event, and was bewildered by the lack of action from agents."
I'm bringing forward @AnnieA's post above as I think this red-head is probably "Greg." His story and his level of anxiety really takes you there.
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So I guess yesterday's story that what hit Trump was a piece of plastic from his teleprompter is wrong and he really was grazed by a bullet. CNN is saying the gunman wasn't a very good shot and that's what saved Trump.
An FBI expert says that this was a clear failure of security.
Me too Della. I think she lost her sunglasses during the melee. She had them on and then she didn’t.The secret service is so impressive in action. Love the young women.
I don't think it was a staged deal. In today's society with the many phones recording this event, I'm sure there will eventually be some shots of the other victims.It feels auspicious that this shooting took place right after, the enemy's leader is tripping and stammering his way . Now the attention shifts, and the news loud speakers will be turned to 10 about the victim of an assassination attempt!!! Let's make it about killing some more, and gun violence. Whatever happens lets not talk about global warming, homelessness, and a run a way economy.
@squatting dog A lot of speculation has started about it being staged. I would entertain that, but was the bystander really killed? If so, what are those circumstances?
Oops it's been a joke for a while now, shut the door, the horse has bolted.What I hope does come of it is to understand that the presidency is not a joke.
Isn't it though. I watch Dateline all the time and it tends to take about 6 months for important DNA to come back. Of course this would be top priority but even so a 20 year old wouldn't be expected to have lots of DNA in the database.I don't think it was a staged deal. In today's society with the many phones recording this event, I'm sure there will eventually be some shots of the other victims.
Another question I have is how did they ID the shooter so quickly? Early this morning, they said the shooter was ID'ed by DNA. (I'm guessing because the head shot left no facial features). That has to be the quickest ID through DNA ever on the planet.
Yes, there's been lots of talk about this on the news today, even something like Biden's casual remark that it was time to target Trump -- only meant figuratively as we all know -- can be taken literally by some people.This will fuel conspiracy theorists for sure. The point that the shooter was destined to die will be lost. The persons who wish to make this a political point for their side…will. What I hope does come of it is to understand that the presidency is not a joke. There is no place in the presidency for hate mongering or support of militant or violent factions. All the inflammatory talk takes roots in odd places. And sometimes breeds violence.