Gunshots at Trump Rally

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Wait! WHAT?! He said THAT?? That's against the law!
Whether he meant it seriously or not. It's a threat.
Isn't that grounds for impeacment?

I never saw that. Must have been hushed soon after spoken.
What if Trump had said that about Biden!!
Lord have Mercy upon his soul!
Words like crosshairs, targeted, etc. have precedent in politics. Republican Sarah Palin even put out an ad with a crosshair aiming at congress woman Gabrielle Giffords who was later shot in the head.
 

I suspect that politics had little to do with this shooting. This guy was clearly VERY disturbed, and he could have hated Trump for any number of reasons. Maybe he reminded him of a hated relative, neighbor, teacher, who knows?

Registered Republican or whatever, his motives might have nothing to do with that. And now that he's dead, we'll probably never know.
 
Another question I have is how did they ID the shooter so quickly? Early this morning, they said the shooter was ID'ed by DNA. (I'm guessing because the head shot left no facial features). That has to be the quickest ID through DNA ever on the planet.
FBI website says DNA sample can be run in 1-2 hours, they also said Biometrics, fingerprints, dental, so maybe a combination of all three.
Link to Rapid DNA
 

The Butler Police have identified the shooter as Mark Violets,a known antifa extremist who uploaded a video earlier that said justice was coming. I doubt the MSM will mention he was an antifa extremist, only preach about gun control and probably make him out to be the victim like they did with the illegal immigrant that murdered Riley Gains.
This little rant didn't age well.
 
It’s like we’re not presentable in polite society. 🤷‍♀️ What can I say?

One of the parts of watching Downton Abbey I loved so much was when the Americans would visit. Hahaha. Such bad manners.
You do realize, "Downton Abbey," was a work of fiction written by a British man don't you? I thought the scenes where Lady Crawley's mother visited were heavy handed and unrealistic. American women of Newport high society at that time usually had lovely, formal manners.
 
Ever been out hunting squirrel and heard a 22 Cal bullet pass over head. Pstt. I have.
I see something wrong with the overhead photo of the area the outdoors thing was held at.
Too many buildings. 50' to 600' away from the podium.
 
I knew it. I said the gun was likely to come from the home , and his hatred of trump was likely to be a whole family thing..and not an individual mental illness ..and here it is....


would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks had explosives in the car he drove to the Pennsylvania rally and used a firearm purchased by his father.

Authorities found the 'explosive devices' in the 20-year-old's vehicle and home after Secret Service agents shot and killed him seconds after he opened fire on the former president, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Matthew Crooks, 53, legally purchased the AR-15 that his son used to attempt to assassinate Trump on Saturday.

Thomas Crooks killed one rally goer, now revealed to be Corey Comperatore, and critically injured two others who are being treated at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh while attempting to take out Trump.

Authorities claim that after police received multiple reports of suspicious packages near where the shooter parked his car it prompted them to dispatch bomb technicians.

Investigators worked well into the night to make sure the scene was clear, which included searching Crooks' home and speaking with his family.

The FBI search led to the discovery of more bombs in the family's Bethel Park home, according to reports.

Members of the community where Crooks is believed to have lived with his parents were swarmed by police and Secret Service on Sunday morning.
 
This little rant didn't age well.
I notice you conveniently left out that I tersely wrote:

...I then switched the mode to "newest" and read the below that provided an as yet unverified report hot off some social media site:

In other words, I was just reporting a new bit of suspicious news while correctly stating such was not yet acceptable fact. And then you further stupidly added my post was a "rant" that is a total fabrication from your own mind that reflects your own attitude and limited reading ability.
 
Wait! WHAT?! He said THAT?? That's against the law!
Whether he meant it seriously or not. It's a threat.
Isn't that grounds for impeacment?
Against the law, no. Grounds for impeachment, anything is really. There was no specifically defined threat such as "I'm going to assassinate him myself". He not only enjoys immunity, but the 1st Amendment would protect that statement. There was a SC case in 1987 where a woman who worked in a TX Constables office was fired when she said "I hope they get him next time", when a co- worker was commenting on the assassination attempt on Reagan. The USSC ruled it was not a credible threat and her statement was protected by the 1st Amendment since she was a government employee and her employment must be reinstated: Rankin v. McPherson.
 
I've visited other countries, and see the opportunities I have been able to take advantage of exceed those from many other nations. I agree we have some very serious problems, but I grew up below that poverty level, and had the option to go bad, but I made choices that took me in a better direction. Many of things you elude too are the product of socialism, bad choices or a combination of both. If we are so bad why do so many people risk everything they have to get here.

I notice some very vocal people have made statements that they would leave this country if XYZ didn't happen, but are still here complaining. Why? You like they can leave anytime you want. It's not that hard nor that expensive. Try Venezuela or Cuba, there are many choices.
 
Yep it is. There are solutions to our nations problems. The fact is they aren't easy solutions, and they probably won't be immediate. To a great extent we have conditioned ourselves to only accept solutions that fit those two standards.
 
While I believe we have a good country to live in, and we were at one time a very great country, I don't believe that's still true. We are $34 trillion in debt. Our school system ranks quite poorly in comparison to other countries. Here, you can get the most expensive college education, not necessarily the best. Most of the other advanced countries offer free or nearly free college education. Why isn't college an extension of the public school system—elementary school, middle school, high school, university, or trade school?
We have no national healthcare system, and the minimally affordable insurance (ACA, "Obama Care") is under constant attack from conservatives. Medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy here. Why do we pay so much more for prescription drugs than Canadians do? They come from the same companies. Hint: think profit and a nice return for shareholders. Nice for the wealthy that can afford to invest.
Homelessness is rampant; many working folks can no longer afford a home and probably never will be able to. They will be destined to pay exorbitant rent for the remainder of their lives.
We have one of the highest rates of gun violence in the world. Just a few months ago, other advanced countries were warning their citizens not to travel to the U.S. due to the violence.
Here in Florida, the governor just eliminated the free lunch program for schoolchildren living in poverty. He also passed a law making it illegal for people (think homeless) to sleep in public areas. I wonder where they will go. Much of the legislation treats a symptom rather than a problem. For example, the government pays off school loans. What happens to the next generation of students with loan debt? Wouldn't a better solution be universities that are not profit centers?
We have a good country, but I don't believe we still have a great country.
May I ask, what makes you still believe our nation is great?
My first year of college, and a very naive youth at the time, one of the professors handed out a stack of papers as required reading. Our instructions were to read every word and then explain either our agreement or disagreement with the content. That document turned out to be a condensed version of the communist manifesto. I am still amazed at how many of my classmates wrote of their enthusiastic agreement. Only a handful of the students stated disagreement with valid explanations. That discussion was enlightening, and also one of the privileges of living in this country.
 
18-year-olds can own and possess a firearm. 16 most likely when hunting or target shooting.
Most youngsters do well with firearm usage, safety and commonsense.

The young man of question most likely just didn't have those things going on.
My parents had rules, 22 cal. and 410 but no more than 3 rounds each at one time.
They were single shots and if I couldn't get a Rabbit or Pheasant with them just go home.
Rules were iron clad back when times were different. It's obviously a young man with
something wrong with him.

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Asking people, "why they do what they do," are not the right question. Ask, "What did you do?"
Most likely his family, parents and friends had nothing to do with his choice.

I have often questioned myself about the need for semi-automatic firearms. "Self-defense only is why."
What to do? Stay out of major congestions of course!
 
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@Naturally, the photo of the dead man is gruesome. If you want to show it, please insert it in a Spoiler, so folks have an option.

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May I ask about the spoiler . I didn’t realize we had one. Can you explain that a it more?
 
May I ask about the spoiler . I didn’t realize we had one. Can you explain that a it more?
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I think jumping to the conclusion that the shooter was mentally ill is premature. He has spent half his life living in a country raw with hate. We have all lost our collective minds. Perhaps he had a grudge…perhaps he wanted to go down in history. Maybe he purchased a gun…or maybe simply took his father’s. He is dead now. Another family destroyed.
 
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I don’t see brackets around off topic but I’m on an iPhone. Thank you for typing all that out though. That’s very kind of you. Maybe I should be using my iPad. I wonder if it will work differently.
 

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