Harry Reid a shameful individual

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Another shameful act by one the leaders of the Democratic Party, today Reid blocked a vote on Kates Law today.

The Bill states:

Kates Law:

Whereby undocumented aliens who are deported and return to the United States would receive a mandatory five year sentence in a federal penitentiary upon conviction.

Ried states it would be too expensive to incarcerate these felons.

The Law is in memory of Kathryn Steinle who was shot in the head by Francisco Sanchez an illegal immigrant from Mexico who was previously deported on five different occasions and had a rap sheet which included seven felonies.
Another travesty infiltrated by Harry Ried on the American people. This man will do ANYTHING to protect President Obama from having to be on record for vetoing Kates Law. Even if it means sitting on a Bill that would protect the American public.
I'm sure it's another proud day for the Cool-aid drinking left on this forum.
 

Dudewho said:
Another shameful act by one the leaders of the Democratic Party, today Reid blocked a vote on Kates Law today.

The Bill states:

Kates Law:

Whereby undocumented aliens who are deported and return to the United States would receive a mandatory five year sentence in a federal penitentiary upon conviction.

Ried states it would be too expensive to incarcerate these felons.

The Law is in memory of Kathryn Steinle who was shot in the head by Francisco Sanchez an illegal immigrant from Mexico who was previously deported on five different occasions and had a rap sheet which included seven felonies.
Another travesty infiltrated by Harry Ried on the American people. This man will do ANYTHING to protect President Obama from having to be on record for vetoing Kates Law. Even if it means sitting on a Bill that would protect the American public.
I'm sure it's another proud day for the Cool-aid drinking left on this forum.
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Yes.... let's put every stinking one in prison for 5 years... even the moms trying to get back to their families.. hell... they should get 10 years!! maybe life.. After all... we have so much room in our prisons and unlimited tax dollars to maintain them! Let's build more.. we don't want to lose our status as the country with the highest incarceration rate! Damn that Harry Reid!

It makes me laugh that with all the mass killings the Right doesn't want to do a thing about the availability of guns and in fact wants every man woman and child to be packing heat.... However, an illegal immigrant kills some one and right away we should put every single one in prison for five years? Isn't that a bit illogical? But of course.. logic, or even thinking isn't a strong suit on the Right..
 

QuickSilver said:
Yes.... let's put every stinking one in prison for 5 years... even the moms trying to get back to their families.. hell... they should get 10 years!! maybe life.. After all... we have so much room in our prisons and unlimited tax dollars to maintain them! Let's build more.. we don't want to lose our status as the country with the highest incarceration rate! Damn that Harry Reid!

It makes me laugh that with all the mass killings the Right doesn't want to do a thing about the availability of guns and in fact wants every man woman and child to be packing heat.... However, an illegal immigrant kills some one and right away we should put every single one in prison for five years? Isn't that a bit illogical? But of course.. logic, or even thinking isn't a strong suit on the Right..
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Shalimar, here is one very far left lefty that always blames the Republicans for all the ills they do create themselves. Guns being one of her rants. Guns are OK in our Constitution and Harry Reid, a lefty, also doesn't want to change that rule at all. Our immigrant problem is getting quite sever but some refuse to see that. Many are coming from central and south Americas with the idea they will be accepted and taken care of stories going around in their home areas. Thousands now in hold and waiting for approvals to stay. This is costing the US greatly and creating a major work load for trying to clear them for actual residence in the US. They come from great distances, some are just children and when the get to the US border many will just enter and then sit down waiting for this magic thing to happen. It is not happening and won't and should not. There is proper way to enter the US and those folks are likely getting denied due to the illegal ways being used by so many thousands. We were working on ending this flood of illegals but since the lefties have had control the fences and electronic ways have been ignored. The border patrols have been pulled back to where they no longer stop the masses on the Mexico side. The US is being raped by the ideas of the far left folks and our borders.

And there are several others along with some not so far left ones that are more reasonable.
 
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BobF said:
Shalimar, here is one very far left llefty that always blames the Republicans for all the ills they do create themselves. Guns being one of her rants. Guns are OK in our Constitution and Harry Reid, a lefty, also doesn't want to change that rule at all. Our immigrant problem is getting quite sever but some refuse to see that. Many are coming from central and south Americas with the idea they will be accepted and taken care of stories going around in their home areas. Thousands now in hold and waiting for approvals to stay. This is costing the US greatly and creating a major work load for trying to clear them for actual residence in the US. They come from great distances, some are just children and when the get to the US border many will just enter and then sit down waiting for this magic thing to happen. It is not happening and won't and should not. There is proper way to enter the US and those folks are likely getting denied due to the illegal ways being used by so many thousands. We were working on ending this flood of illegals but since the lefties have had control the fences and electronic ways have been ignored. The border patrols have been pulled back to where they no longer stop the masses on the Mexico side. The US is being raped by the ideas of the far left folks and our borders.

And there are several others along with some not so far left ones that are more reasonable.
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What a lot of BALONEY! Your post is speculation and your ranting opinion only...... without any creditable links to back it up.
 
Jackie22 said:
What a lot of BALONEY! Your post is speculation and your ranting opinion only...... without any creditable links to back it up.
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Just ask for 'illegal immigration problems in the US'. There are plenty of links. I will post some right here.

http://www.fairus.org/issues/illegal-immigration

http://www.alipac.us/problems-with-illegal-immigration/

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=196

https://www.numbersusa.com/problems

http://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Problems_With_Illegal_Immigration/index.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

I hope this is enough for you to look into. Plenty more if you just look for them. Not speculation at all. The US is having plenty of problems because of this ever growing problem of illegal immigration.
 
Dudewho said:
Another shameful act by one the leaders of the Democratic Party, today Reid blocked a vote on Kates Law today.

The Bill states:

Kates Law:

Whereby undocumented aliens who are deported and return to the United States would receive a mandatory five year sentence in a federal penitentiary upon conviction.

Ried states it would be too expensive to incarcerate these felons.

The Law is in memory of Kathryn Steinle who was shot in the head by Francisco Sanchez an illegal immigrant from Mexico who was previously deported on five different occasions and had a rap sheet which included seven felonies.
Another travesty infiltrated by Harry Ried on the American people. This man will do ANYTHING to protect President Obama from having to be on record for vetoing Kates Law. Even if it means sitting on a Bill that would protect the American public.
I'm sure it's another proud day for the Cool-aid drinking left on this forum.
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"Another shameful act", that would be to spend hundreds of millions of dollars locking up mostly harmless people wanting a better life.

How about we just send Kathryn Steinle's family a couple million dollars as a tribute, and call it a day, instead of enacting incredibly expensive and senseless legislation?


You know, the illegal immigration issue seems to only get in the spotlight when the right-wingers drag it out of the closet, anound election time. I see the "Kate's Law" as a not-so-cleverly staged effort to create an election time talking point, with which to whip up anger and alarm amongst potential republican voters, to get the faithful to the voting booth.
 
QuickSilver said:
So much baloney, we could slice it up and feed sandwiches to all of the 11 million undocumented....
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But why should we have to do that? Let them come in through the open channels we have for them to use. All this is costing all of us working and taxpaying folks lots of money and efforts. They are held to allow the government to do the things that would have been done if doing it through our system normally. Crime checks, health concerns, places to live, skills to use for earning a living, on and on it goes.
 
tnthomas said:
"Another shameful act", that would be to spend hundreds of millions of dollars locking up mostly harmless people wanting a better life.

How about we just send Kathryn Steinle's family a couple million dollars as a tribute, and call it a day, instead of enacting incredibly expensive and senseless legislation?


You know, the illegal immigration issue seems to only get in the spotlight when the right-wingers drag it out of the closet, anound election time. I see the "Kate's Law" as a not-so-cleverly staged effort to create an election time talking point, with which to whip up anger and alarm amongst potential republican voters, to get the faithful to the voting booth.
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why can't they get in line and come here legally like the other millions of people who have done so?
 
BobF said:
Just ask for 'illegal immigration problems in the US'. There are plenty of links. I will post some right here.

http://www.fairus.org/issues/illegal-immigration

http://www.alipac.us/problems-with-illegal-immigration/

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=196

https://www.numbersusa.com/problems

http://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Problems_With_Illegal_Immigration/index.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

I hope this is enough for you to look into. Plenty more if you just look for them. Not speculation at all. The US is having plenty of problems because of this ever growing problem of illegal immigration.
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....I never said it was not a problem....This is the part of your post that I call 'BALONEY' on...

"We were working on ending this flood of illegals but since the lefties have had control the fences and electronic ways have been ignored. The border patrols have been pulled back to where they no longer stop the masses on the Mexico side. The US is being raped by the ideas of the far left folks and our borders."

...and nothing in your right wing anti immigration links address your above statement.
 
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We were working on ending this flood of illegals but since the lefties have had control the fences and electronic ways have been ignored. The border patrols have been pulled back to where they no longer stop the masses on the Mexico side. The US is being raped by the ideas of the far left folks and our borders.
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Yea yea, it's always those far left folks that are to blame, for everything from burnt toast to childhood acne- right??? Please raise your hand if you're able to remember back to the previous administration(hint: GW bush was president). Back then there was a huge amount of chatter about illegal immigration and what to do about it, but not a darn thing was done about it!

Speaking of GW Bush's 'watch' as president, do you remember these headlines:

Mexican Drug Smuggler Shot by Border Agents Indicted on Drug Smuggling Charges
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...happened in 2007...why, that was GW Bush's 'watch'! By the way, you can trust that link- it's FOX news after-all! :p

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, the man who prosecuted the two border agents was- guess what? He was [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]nominated by George W. Bush [/FONT]for U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas in 2001. To Bush's credit, President Bush commuted the sentences of both Compean and Ramos in 2009.



Dudewho said:
why can't they get in line and come here legally like the other millions of people who have done so?
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I'm with ya, but putting them in prison is not in the best interests of the country, IMO.
 
I still stand by my original post. Sf is to some degree a bastion of centre based Liberal ideology. If you truly wish to examine Leftist politics, one must talk to the Canadianim, or perhaps some of the other commonwealth members. We of The Great

Socialist Horde wear our pink shirts proudly as we endlessly plot the destruction of free enterprise, and the ensuing destruction of The Free World as we know it! Please stay tuned for further installments of As The Stomach Turns, brought to you by Paranoia Inc. and all our secret sponsors.......
 
Originally Posted by Dudewho
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why can't they get in line and come here legally like the other millions of people who have done so?
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Because there IS NO LINE!... Watching a Sunday talk show.. one panelist said that every single undocumented immigrant would GLADLY stand in a line to enter the USA... BUT THERE IS NO LINE TO STAND IN!..... Simple as that




There’s a way to enter the country legally for anyone who wants to get in line.
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Ask students if they know the rules to enter the country legally and stay here to work. The simple answer is that there is no “line” for most very poor people with few skills to stand in and gain permanent U.S. residency. Generally, gaining permission to live and work in the United States is limited to people who are (1) highly trained in a skill that is in short supply here and offered a job by a U.S. employer, (2) escaping political persecution, (3) joining close family already here, or (4) winners of the green-card lottery.
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http://www.tolerance.org/immigration-myths
 
Reality is, the vast majority of folks who climb under, over, and circumvent that border "fence" are not criminals yet, when they enter. THey seek to find what they could not on the other side: employment and resultant income. I was acquainted with many while living in Phoenix who worked hard, spent as little as possible, and steadily sent money back to family over there.

Living here in Laughlin/Bullhead City, I have already met a number of such folks. In most cases, however, these are not undocumented, I imagine. imp
 
imp said:
Gotta reply to the OP title's premise: Harry Reid disgusts me. imp
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When I lived in Nevada. I got a note from California saying I owed them taxes on my pension even though I hadn't lived there in years.. I contacted Reids office. He introduced a bill and got it passed that stated California had no right to tax any citizen of any other state on their pensions. If you don't know Reid or his actual record it might be prudent to shut down.
 
Jackie22 said:
....I never said it was not a problem....This is the part of your post that I call 'BALONEY' on...

"We were working on ending this flood of illegals but since the lefties have had control the fences and electronic ways have been ignored. The border patrols have been pulled back to where they no longer stop the masses on the Mexico side. The US is being raped by the ideas of the far left folks and our borders."

...and nothing in your right wing anti immigration links address your above statement.
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First in your rant is that I did not pick right wing only links. They were just the ones that came up when I posted.

Second is that prior to the current government they were installing more and more fences and other electronic measures to tell us when people were crossing the border. Not much of that has happened in current years. We had border patrols watching and challenging those to stop them from coming over. That has been determined to be to dangerous or something and they have been pulled back a bit. Here where I live has a fairly large border patrol unit. But we are likely over 100 miles from the border. I would think they would do better at the border and keeping folks from crossing in the first place.

No I am not going to dig up more facts for you as you just don't care about what is really going on. You look up some facts to prove I am wrong. I will read them, just make sure they are open sources and not just some more liberal only operations.
 
Shalimar said:
I still stand by my original post. Sf is to some degree a bastion of centre based Liberal ideology. If you truly wish to examine Leftist politics, one must talk to the Canadianim, or perhaps some of the other commonwealth members. We of The Great

Socialist Horde wear our pink shirts proudly as we endlessly plot the destruction of free enterprise, and the ensuing destruction of The Free World as we know it! Please stay tuned for further installments of As The Stomach Turns, brought to you by Paranoia Inc. and all our secret sponsors.......
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I had to Google "Socialist pink shirts", too many results to show but here's the link.

Nice one here:

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AZ Jim said:
When I lived in Nevada. I got a note from California saying I owed them taxes on my pension even though I hadn't lived there in years.. I contacted Reids office. He introduced a bill and got it passed that stated California had no right to tax any citizen of any other state on their pensions. If you don't know Reid or his actual record it might be prudent to shut down.
Not a chance Jim, when considering the expanse of his ilk. imp
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imp said:
AZ Jim said:
When I lived in Nevada. I got a note from California saying I owed them taxes on my pension even though I hadn't lived there in years.. I contacted Reids office. He introduced a bill and got it passed that stated California had no right to tax any citizen of any other state on their pensions. If you don't know Reid or his actual record it might be prudent to shut down.
Not a chance Jim, when considering the expanse of his ilk. imp
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Fair enough now how about listing the specific reason for your claims?
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AZ Jim said:
imp said:
AZ Jim said:
When I lived in Nevada. I got a note from California saying I owed them taxes on my pension even though I hadn't lived there in years.. I contacted Reids office. He introduced a bill and got it passed that stated California had no right to tax any citizen of any other state on their pensions. If you don't know Reid or his actual record it might be prudent to shut down.

Fair enough now how about listing the specific reason for your claims?
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I'll save him the trouble. Reid is a strong and very vocal Democrat who gives the GOP a really good taste of their own medicine on a regular basis.
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