Has Martin Luther King's dream turned into a nightmare?

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"It's the candidate and their ideals, not their race or sex, that makes a good Presidential leader"

So far, in this 21st Century, we have not had the benefit of "enlightened leadership" in Any branches of our government. The 1%'rs are doing a magnificent job of presenting us with candidates they can easily control...and all we can do is try to chose from the list of their Puppets. Bill Clinton made some progress, but it's been pretty much downhill since. Can you imagine what would have happened had McCain won, and died in office...leaving Sarah Palin in charge? Congress is going to be a bigger mess than ever for the next 2 years....if that is even possible. Obama is just going to be marking time until his cushy retirement date arrives. The Supreme Court could fold its tent, and no one, other than the wealthy would miss them. While no one has "officially" announced a run for the President in 2016, the individuals the media are starting to hype leave little hope for improvement. One would think that in a nation of 320 million, we could find some worthwhile individuals to serve in government...but it seems that anyone with an ounce of skill is getting filthy rich in the global economy, and we are left with little other than Mediocrity.
 

Dame Warrigal said:
Moving to Australia?
Not likely.

They'll end up being sent back from whence they came in orange lifeboats.

http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/aflfootyshow/videos/3133856961001/
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Maybe he thinks he can use an old passport he has layin' around.

I practiced in Australia for one year as a neurosurgeon, and my malpractice premiums were only $200 a year at that time. Compare this with the $300,000 malpractice insurance fee assessed on a litigation-free neurosurgeon in Philadelphia today.”
-Ben Carson
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It seems that he is also a plagiarist, so maybe his misspelling wasn't his fault...
 
The Book Of *****es - a book and now a mini series which I have been currently watching on TV.

Wish the Rev Sharpton would make his followers more aware of the fact that it was blacks turning their backs on their own for money by capturing other blacks to be sold into slavery.

I count as my friends a black person, two of North American Indian descent, and a lady of the Jewish faith. No muslim friends yet but I am working on it.
 
I'm not fond of Reverend Al, but not because of his role in the Civil Rights movement, THAT I think he needs to be commended for, although some of his rhetoric can be abrasive. . After all... if he can get under the skin of certain people... he's doing something right. lol!!
 
SeaBreeze said:
In 2015, I think a lot of us are disheartened by the steady ongoing racism in the world, especially in America. I don't vote for someone because of the color of their skin, regardless of political party. Although I have voted for republicans in the past, there is no way that I would have ever voted for Romney, he didn't know his own mind, and he was completely out of touch with the American people and the middle class citizen, IMO.

He didn't have to worry about the 47%, and wanted to destroy those nasty 'entitlements' of seniors, slash SS and give out Medicare vouchers. He could campaign on his yacht and send his dirty money overseas so he wouldn't have to pay American taxes.

Obama won both elections for one reason, because he was the better candidate for the job. Also, people were not happy with the constant oil wars (disguised to hide that fact) and declining economy brought on by republican leadership before him.

Nobody asked me, but there's no way I would vote for clowns like West, Carson, etc. Those two have made statements comparing being gay to bestiality and pedophilia, how anyone with an Obama bumper sticker was a threat to the gene pool, how liberal women were neutering American men, how Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery, how America is like Nazi Germany, how if a democrat wins in 2016, they're going to move to Australia, on and on...not going to mention all the garbage that comes out of these people's mouths.

I wouldn't want somebody of that mindset in charge of my country. They are perfect examples of the decline of the republican party, the party has spiraled downwards and keeps on going. Republicans seem to think that since Obama won, they can use a black man in their strategy to win, not so simple. It's the candidate and their ideals, not their race or sex that makes a good Presidential leader.
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Big thumbs up here....right on every point.
 
I wish that Sharpton would have to declare how much money he was getting from Soros to promote civil unrest.
 
Ramblin Rose said:
The Book Of *****es - a book and now a mini series which I have been currently watching on TV.

Wish the Rev Sharpton would make his followers more aware of the fact that it was blacks turning their backs on their own for money by capturing other blacks to be sold into slavery.



I count as my friends a black person, two of North American Indian descent, and a lady of the Jewish faith. No muslim friends yet but I am working on it.
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You as many make assumptions that people aren't aware of the history of slavery around the world in relation to all people by the various groups, this always comes up from some people in these types of conversations, I've had history teachers making us aware of that other Africans were involved in the captured and selling of Africans to others since my high school days. I'm not really sure what this has to do with the mistreatment the people receive at the hands of the people they interact with on a daily basis though. Just about every group has and still to some degree do enslave and or use it's own people for profit at one time or another, that isn't what is at issue just another deflection. Even the movie which aired some 40 years ago, showed that it was other Africans hunting and capturing their own people. We get that, what is the point of that info, I"m sure those Africans don't have love for their capturers any more so for those that were giving them lashes and forcing them work in cotton fields or block them from voting.

And Sharpton definitely doesn't speak for me, though as QS says he does do some good in some cases, but, I certainly don't look to him for leadership. I look to people that are inclusive of all the people.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Ben Carson can't spell.
It's "practised" with an "s" because it is a verb.
Just sayin'.
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In the main varieties of English from outside North America, practice is the noun, and practise is the verb. For instance, we would say that a doctor with a private practice practises privately.

There is no such distinction in American English, where practice is both a noun and a verb, and practise is not used at all.

 Canadian English also favors practise as the verb, but practice appears with relative frequency as a verb (about a third as often as practise).
 
Yup, and when that doctor is done practicing, and does the real thing let me know, but I guess practice makes perfect.
 
Ramblin Rose said:
The Book Of *****es - a book and now a mini series which I have been currently watching on TV.

Wish the Rev Sharpton would make his followers more aware of the fact that it was blacks turning their backs on their own for money by capturing other blacks to be sold into slavery.

I count as my friends a black person, two of North American Indian descent, and a lady of the Jewish faith. No muslim friends yet but I am working on it.
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I'm not sure what your statement referencing slavery has to do with race relations in the US today, which is what this thread's about. Why do you wish that Sharpton should highlight this fact to anybody? I can't imagine any relevance to racism today.

Now your statement about having a black friend, two indian friends and a jew friend (and working on a Muslim) does make a point about race relations today. A point that some of us have been making, that we haven't come far at all.
 
Yup, MLK's and many other's dreams are a nightmare in a deep sleep on that new bed they bought on a mattress sale on the day in their honor.
 
I have quite a few Jewish, Muslim and Catholic friends by way of the local University setting. We sit around and make up jokes. A Rabbi walks into a bar and ........ Some of the stuff the Muslims come up with are unreal funny, I would have never thought about it in that light.
 
rkunsaw said:
Race relations have been set back 50 years because of thugs like Mike Brown and the race baiters Al Sharpton, Eric Holder and such, plus the rioters and looters. Racism had been steadily improving since MLK days but have taken a big setback recently.

And some of you are showing your racism by claiming everyone who is against Obama it is because he is black. That is not true, we are against his policies and what he stands for. He was elected because he is black and got the black vote regardless of any knowledge of his agenda.

How many of you who supported Obama would vote for Allen West, Dr. Ben Carson, Mia Love, or Tim Scott? I would vote for any or all of them. If you wouldn't vote for them then you are a racist.
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I have to agree with you about racism being exploited by having a black pres. He WAS elected only because he is black and had nothing to do with his policies. The blacks thought maybe they could get more free things from him and more support from him than he's given. Obama is all about what he wants, Black or White!!!
I think we are still very much a racist country and not just black racist, there's Mexi, Chinese, etc. I think tho that the blacks dwell on the fact that they think our Gov. still owes them for being slaves. Generation after generation. They choose to keep those racism feelings alive in there lives and families. It's not the rest of the country suppressing them. They have every opportunity and much more being a minority to advance and do things in their life and be a benefit not a dependent of this country.
In fact, I think, that Whites need to do some crying out, because we hardly get all the benefits the minorities get do we? Things like free education.
But yet you don't see other nationalities rioting and destroying whole towns either due to this unfairness. Hmmmm.

How about the Indians? They are racist too, very much so, ever been on one of their reservations? Being the white person isn't comforting there. They choose to live and govern themselves and out Gov. allows this. They don't suppress themselves like the black communities. They choose to be and be who they are. Not that there isn't any problems with that. For the most part tho, they are free to choose an American life without entering racism into the equation.

But I think too that our kids having grown up in a diverse mixed race environment that racism will lessen. Many of these kids don't think about racism and have great relations with other nationalities.
Guys like Sharpton choose to exploit racism to cause trouble and nothing more.

America is most definitely not all free. We make our choices for your lives. America is all about having the choice to choose.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm not sure what your statement referencing slavery has to do with race relations in the US today, which is what this thread's about. Why do you wish that Sharpton should highlight this fact to anybody? I can't imagine any relevance to racism today.

Now your statement about having a black friend, two indian friends and a jew friend (and working on a Muslim) does make a point about race relations today. A point that some of us have been making, that we haven't come far at all.
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Seabreeze, it does have something to do with race relations today if people would stop and remember that history shows deeds done by their own people against them. Some blacks, not all of course, do not realize the history and instead choose to blame the white man for oppression.

April, has it really been that long since Alex Hailey's "Roots" time does go by. Another great mini series but this current one "The Book Of *****es" is told from a woman's point of view.

In addition to the horror of slavery, some of the focus is on the friendship between a Jewish woman and a black woman.
 
Ramblin Rose said:
Seabreeze, it does have something to do with race relations today if people would stop and remember that history shows deeds done by their own people against them. Some blacks, not all of course, do not realize the history and instead choose to blame the white man for oppression.

April, has it really been that long since Alex Hailey's "Roots" time does go by. Another great mini series but this current one "The Book Of *****es" is told from a woman's point of view.

In addition to the horror of slavery, some of the focus is on the friendship between a Jewish woman and a black woman.
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So what you are saying is that because some Blacks in Africa helped capture others for shipment to the US for slavery, that Blacks shouldn't be angry with Whites about being enslaved, beaten, raped and having their children taken from them and sold? And that they should just shut up about their grievances against police, and obvious discrimination they have endured and still do to some extent? Because way back....some Blacks helped capture them.. Alrighty then..
 
Not saying that at all Quicksilver. What I am saying is that maybe if blacks had not assisted the white man then maybe, just maybe slavery would not have happened. And to only blame the whites for slavery is a mite biased.
 
Ramblin Rose said:
Not saying that at all Quicksilver. What I am saying is that maybe if blacks had not assisted the white man then maybe, just maybe slavery would not have happened. And to only blame the whites for slavery is a mite biased.
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So then what you are saying is that Blacks captured other Blacks.. without payment or orders from the White slave dealers.. and on their own begged the poor White man to take them on their ships to be sold and enslaved in the US...... The Whites really didn't want to have slaves.. and Lord knows they didn't want to mistreat them as badly as they did. BUT... you have to do something to control them while you are putting their best interests first.. PULEEEEZE... Whites WENT to Africa and PAID others to help capture HUMANS and to enslave them... and if other Blacks hadn't assisted, Whites would have gone out and gotten them themselves.. Sorry... Whites are TOTALLY to blame.
 
What made me think about blacks was the Missouri riots. They ruined a police officer, went against a grand jury.
They also held the whole state hostage and still do.
Fine public relations.
Boy they sure hate white people.
You are not going to get people to love you when you scare the crap out of them.
 
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