Have a positive Covid test after being vaccinated?

Sunny said:
We have a display on the National Mall of 700,000 white flags, each flag representing someone in this country who died of Covid. Not since the Aids quilt has there been anything like that on the Mall. The purpose is to show people what 700,000 looks like.

Just reading a number is one thing, but seeing a graphic representation of people, most of whom would still be alive, more of them then the eye can take in from where you are standing, makes its point much more meaningfully. Imagine the amount of grief, loss, suffering, and a cruel death in an ICU bed, choking and gasping for air, represented by each flag.... and then realize that most of those deaths could have been prevented by a couple of simple shots.

For those of you who are still desperately clinging to what you have been taught to think (by the ignorant, the nutty, and the self-serving), maybe it's time to drop the politics, do what you can to save your own life, and stop trying to convince people to be afraid of a harmless vaccine.

And for the zillionth time, the number of breakthrough cases isn't important. People don't die of that. It's the unvaccinated who die of it.
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"And for the zillionth time, the number of breakthrough cases isn't important. People don't die of that. It's the unvaccinated who die of it."

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reportinghttps://www.cdc.gov › covid-19 › health-departments
Apr 30, 2021 — Some fully vaccinated people will get sick, and some will even be hospitalized or die from COVID-19.


Over 14K Vaccinated People With Breakthrough COVID ...https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Vaccinations › CDC
Sep 13, 2021 — Over 14K Vaccinated People With Breakthrough COVID Cases Have Been ... people will get sick, and some will even be hospitalized or die
 

the numbers of cases are much higher among unvaccinated who by definition don't have" breakthrough" cases ."breakthrough" is a term given to the vaccinated who get covid-19 at a much lesser rate. and doesn't apply to all. the vaccinated have a much lower death
rate. you state that you want to post accurate information yet you keep playing games with semantics and numbers . i'm done thank you
 
suds00 said:
the numbers of cases are much higher among unvaccinated who by definition don't have" breakthrough" cases ."breakthrough" is a term given to the vaccinated who get covid-19 at a much lesser rate. and doesn't apply to all. the vaccinated have a much lower death
rate. you state that you want to post accurate information yet you keep playing games with semantics and numbers . i'm done thank you
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"I'm done thank you" = "My mind is made up, so don't confuse me with facts."
 
Win, "I'm done, thank you" doesn't mean the person doesn't want to be "confused" by "facts." It usually means the person realizes there is no point in discussing this with someone who is trying to make an adolescent joke out of it.

There are lots of facts in these discussions, but not every bit of nonsense is a fact. Most of us have learned to use discretion in whose "facts" we believe.
 
Sunny said:
Win, "I'm done, thank you" doesn't mean the person doesn't want to be "confused" by "facts." It usually means the person realizes there is no point in discussing this with someone who is trying to make an adolescent joke out of it.

There are lots of facts in these discussions, but not every bit of nonsense is a fact. Most of us have learned to use discretion in whose "facts" we believe.
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Obviously you haven't learned to use discretion. Your posts are merely tape recordings of whatever you've been fed.
 
ManjaroKDE said:
Only 'FACT' I see is there are two sides to the ongoing argument, whether to be not to be vaccinated! I for one being somewhat compromised with underlying problems believe that the vaccine is my best option and have had all the doses available, hoping that if I get it I will at least have a fighting chance for survival. Until I know differently that's my position. My health is my concern not anybody else's. No amount of copy n' pasting is going to sway me.
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"My health is my concern not anybody else's."

Yes exactly, each person should do as they think is best for themselves. The problem is it seems to be one sided, meaning that most vaccinated don't think its a personal choice, they think their choice is the only one for all. I am a strong supporter of freedom of choice in ones personal health care. I also believe in considering all available information, the good, the bad, and the in between.
 
ManjaroKDE said:
@Becky1951 did I not say the the vaccine was my best option? You are making it more than my choice, only what you perceive is the correct choice which is your interpretation of the best for all. Get a life and quit trying to influence what others think. Go back to your cutting and pasting everything you believe is true because you either heard it on Fox News or Google.
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Wow excuse me for misunderstanding! "I for one being somewhat compromised with underlying problems believe that the vaccine is my best option" I was agreeing "My health is my concern not anybody else's."

"only what you perceive is the correct choice"

I guess perceiving a person has the right to choose concerning their health is wrong.

Have a great day.
 
win231 said:
Obviously you haven't learned to use discretion. Your posts are merely tape recordings of whatever you've been fed.
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we're in an emergency situation .protocols must be met to contain the virus. we can follow unproven scattershot methods. give me time and i'll think of a put-down of your thinking .probably several. that is why i'm done. it's a waste of time to respond to your quips.
 
Devi said:
Love that Ignore button.
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I might start using it. 🤣

I always thought everyone had a right to express their opinions. However since some can't do so without snarky snips and condescending attitudes and outright anger when you disagree or sometime even agree :rolleyes: it is becoming appealing to use.
 
RobinWren said:
Am I missing something here? Doctor claims the result could have been worse. The man died, what is worse than that? Maybe being alive but having no quality of life?
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Obviously, the doctor is desperately trying to maintain the asinine notion that "Anything a doctor recommends is always the best thing to do."
That's where the (equally asinine) statement comes from: "If you're vaccinated for Flu or Covid, you may still get Flu or Covid, & you can still give it to others, but you won't get as sick."
When thinking people ask "Why should I get a vaccine that won't prevent an illness," they have to come up with something, or else no one will want it.
 
suds00 said:
we're in an emergency situation .protocols must be met to contain the virus. we can follow unproven scattershot methods. give me time and i'll think of a put-down of your thinking .probably several. that is why i'm done. it's a waste of time to respond to your quips.
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Please do take all the time you need. :giggle:
 
RobinWren said:
Am I missing something here? Doctor claims the result could have been worse. The man died, what is worse than that?
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I don't know either. :oops: :unsure:
Personally, I feel the best option :love: is continuing to be healthy, and staying away from the poisons. 🥴
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Doctors are not scientists.
They were taught at the petro-chemical medical schools to obey, push drugs, and to not ask intelligent questions.
They can't be trusted, and would blame his death which was caused directly by their poisons, on something not true.
 
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win231 said:
Obviously, the doctor is desperately trying to maintain the asinine notion that "Anything a doctor recommends is always the best thing to do."
That's where the (equally asinine) statement comes from: "If you're vaccinated for Flu or Covid, you may still get Flu or Covid, & you can still give it to others, but you won't get as sick."
When thinking people ask "Why should I get a vaccine that won't prevent an illness," they have to come up with something, or else no one will want it.
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Gee, guess I was wrong to follow the advice of my highly skilled doctor instead of relying on you, Win.

As for your last statement, you know the answer. You just don't like it because it doesn't follow what some politicians (who have come up with a way to get gullible idiots to vote for them) or the out-and-out lunatic fringe are saying. The answer, from the SANE, EDUCATED medical community, is:

Because. Possibly. Getting. A. Mild. Case. Is. Better. Than. Dying.
 
Sunny said:
Gee, guess I was wrong to follow the advice of my highly skilled doctor instead of relying on you, Win.

As for your last statement, you know the answer. You just don't like it because it doesn't follow what some politicians (who have come up with a way to get gullible idiots to vote for them) or the out-and-out lunatic fringe are saying. The answer, from the SANE, EDUCATED medical community, is:

Because. Possibly. Getting. A. Mild. Case. Is. Better. Than. Dying.
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Well, you have to be smart enough to know which doctors' advice to follow & which doctors advice not to follow.
Had I followed every doctor's advice I was given, I wouldn't be here now.
And had I followed every dentist's advice, I'd be having 12 months of unnecessary invasive, risky procedures & also be out $45,000.00.
The medical community is certainly educated. They're just not all honest.
 

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