Health Care CEO murdered in NYC in a targeted attack

CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
"Sure most rich people are ass hats."

Rather a stretch to pigeon hole so many good, hard working people into the "ass hat" category isn't it?
I'd wager to bet there are a lot more "ass hat" type people in the other brackets than the few in the high income brackets.

Just a thought:

People can be mean, like a basket of blue crabs, when it comes to envy and resentment rather like this:

Take a basket of freshly hand-caught blue crabs in a basket on a dock.
Watch them closely.
One of the blue crabs will inevitably work and work, and just manage to creep up the side of the basket and get a grip on the top of the basket and work harder still to pull himself up to escape.
What do the other crabs do?
They will seize onto that fortunate escaping crab and pull him back down.

Sadly there is something IN many people who will seize on any opportunity to berate, bring down, critisize the smart, the wealthy, the able, the one who isn't like the rest of the crowd and manages to raise themselves up.
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I respectfully disagree.
 

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We have threads going here at SF about two controversial killings: this one that involves the murder of the wealthy CEO of UnitedHealthcare, and another that involves the murder of a homeless, mentally disturbed Black man on a subway.

If you're on one side of the aisle, you feel empathy for the CEO and his family, and contempt for his shooter. You also side with the killer of the Black man and feel contempt for him (the Black man) because he was poor, mentally ill, and was annoying (and possibly threatening) other passengers.

And on the other side of the aisle, it's just the opposite. The CEO is seen as a villain while his assassin is seen as a hero. And the subway killer, Daniel Penny, is seen as a bully and the young Black man is deemed a victim.

In both these killings, it's the weak vs. strong paradigm... David vs. Goliath, or depending on how you look at it... good vs. evil.
 

jimintoronto said:
Trust me. The reasons, and the answers to all of your questions, will be answered at his trial. That still happens in the USA, although the time for this to get to trial will probably take a year or more. Just preparing the evidence to be presented at trial, will take months to collect and assemble. When it gets to trial, he may simply plead guilty, who knows, but the trial will happen, and he is never going to see the street , again. JIM>
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He can formally plead guilty at any point after he's charged. He doesn't have to wait until a trial, or even until a trial is scheduled.

If he does that, he'll look even more like a hero, but also, people will forget about him a lot sooner. win-win
 
I hear on the news he's not talking. I'm glad they got him. I guess some are not and even upset at the McDonalds employee. And if he doesn't like big corporate, what was he doing at McDonalds?
 
Della said:
When a brilliant 26 year-old man like Luigi Mangione suddenly goes off the rails, becomes obsessed with a cause and does something this extreme, I can't help but suspect the onset of a severe mental illness.
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Possibly but IMO probably not. In other words, very sane and intelligent but maybe an antisocial personality disorder sociopath that is not mental illness and only a disorder in the sense they are doing things the rest of society considers criminal hurting others. Same thing with many life long criminals. They don't get emotional hurting others they don't like.

One needs to understand how little in this era, some people value other's human lives and could kill others with little remorse. Given his elite educational background, he obviously developed some strong philosophical views that may be in line with liberal Antifa anarchists. Expect fair numbers of extremists like them don't value lives of their extreme opposites. One only needs to look at all the supposed social media support he is reported as having that reflects others that might kill those they don't like also if they thought they could get away with such crimes.
 
My inside info on Hospice is that the Morphine ect. gradually shuts down the Terminal ill. Thus, they peacefully die of exhaustion.
Oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetyl fentanyl, and dipropynyl fentanyl." Usually, cardiac arrest ensues. Petty &
Prince immediately comes to mind.

Most likely the young mentally obsession of a man has just blown out his freedom for life in prison most likely. I doubt he will get a chance at parole after 20 years with the crime he pulled.
 
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Something doesn't pass the smell test here.
So, This guy is apparently a smart, Ivy League graduate with several degrees.
But, while supposedly waiting to bump off the CEO, he takes off his mask so he can flirt with a Starbucks employee.
Then, an hour later, goes and kills a CEO in the street and rides away on an E-bike.

A week later, he goes into a local McDonald's where he brings along the murder weapon, the fake ID he used at the hotel in NYC, along with this manifesto that talks about how horrible the healthcare system is. He is then somehow identified by a McDonald's cashier after he sits down to eat his meal.
Then, he waits for the police to arrive................. sitting there with a ghost gun and a home made suppressor.
Now, maybe it's just me, but, I'd bet most murders probably wouldn't be toting around the murder weapon, fake ID's, and of course, a manifesto.
 
If he was nutz one might. Maybe he didn't feel it yet. Was he in his stomping turfs areas?
Think the perp keeping a firearm on em is pretty probable in many cases.
 
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squatting dog said:
Something doesn't pass the smell test here.
So, This guy is apparently a smart, Ivy League graduate with several degrees.
But, while supposedly waiting to bump off the CEO, he takes off his mask so he can flirt with a Starbucks employee.
Then, an hour later, goes and kills a CEO in the street and rides away on an E-bike.

A week later, he goes into a local McDonald's where he brings along the murder weapon, the fake ID he used at the hotel in NYC, along with this manifesto that talks about how horrible the healthcare system is. He is then somehow identified by a McDonald's cashier after he sits down to eat his meal.
Then, he waits for the police to arrive................. sitting there with a ghost gun and a home made suppressor.
Now, maybe it's just me, but, I'd bet most murders probably wouldn't be toting around the murder weapon, fake ID's, and of course, a manifesto.
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I would agree with you, but the guy grew up in privilege and was probably never disciplined for anything. He probably thinks he is above the law and can just get away with anything.
 
squatting dog said:
Something doesn't pass the smell test here.
So, This guy is apparently a smart, Ivy League graduate with several degrees.
But, while supposedly waiting to bump off the CEO, he takes off his mask so he can flirt with a Starbucks employee.
Then, an hour later, goes and kills a CEO in the street and rides away on an E-bike.

A week later, he goes into a local McDonald's where he brings along the murder weapon, the fake ID he used at the hotel in NYC, along with this manifesto that talks about how horrible the healthcare system is. He is then somehow identified by a McDonald's cashier after he sits down to eat his meal.
Then, he waits for the police to arrive................. sitting there with a ghost gun and a home made suppressor.
Now, maybe it's just me, but, I'd bet most murders probably wouldn't be toting around the murder weapon, fake ID's, and of course, a manifesto.
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Yep, he expected to be caught and now will likely spend the best years (age-wise) of his life in prison. So the question is: why did he throw his life away?
 
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