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We found some (I'm in the states too, btwHere in the States, there are single-room portable air conditioners available. They might be accessible in the U.K. (Shipping from USA is probably exorbitant!)
We found some (I'm in the states too, btwHere in the States, there are single-room portable air conditioners available. They might be accessible in the U.K. (Shipping from USA is probably exorbitant!)
Yes, my friend mentioned that this afternoon. Also that he heard or read a story about someone having a barbecue or some sort of fire in their yard, which started a large fire as well. :/Wow, saw on Sky News on You Tube that there has been a “surge of fires” in London today with the London Fire brigade declaring a “major incident”. The video on You Tube shows mainly fires in residential areas. Hope all are safe.
yes according to our local weather the temps tonight will be 70 deg... .. however it's still stifling in my house...currently, at 7.25 pm.. with all windows open all day , and fans on full blast it;s 83.3 fTerrible damage!
@hollydolly I saw your temps are about 75f and will be in the 60's tonight, so at least you can sleep. I hope those dreadful fires are under control.
We have 91 here.
Nature has a way of controlling over-population. There's Covid, sexual aberrations which limit procreation and now fires from too many people tipping the climate away from what used to be normal.I feel sorry for all those folks in Europe but I said it all here before: There are just too many people on this planet. Combine this fact with the fact that the globe is warming up due to our pollution and abuse of the environment, the situation is only going to get worse.
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A dozen families homeless in this last picture
we're a very small Island with a population of 70 million.. ( compared to approx 5 million in Oregon the UK is slightly smaller than oregon )...we don't have the space, we're extremely overcrowded ..Thank you for those pictures.
That much damage is shocking to me. Would it be possible to have more room between the buildings? We used to have large yards in Oregon and that much damage would be very unlikely, but as our population grew the lots for houses became smaller and smaller.
Will we ever deal with the problems of overpopulation? All our cities seem to want growth with no concern about the downside of too much growth.
Just waiting for it to begin here as our entire country is extremely hot. I see Greece is also fighting serious fires. With all our trees on the Pacific coast and across the forested areas, there is bound to be multiple lightning strikes from this excessive heat. Friends cancelled their vacation in our Pine Barrens here in NJ due to fire alerts.I saw today that over 1,000 people, mostly elderly, have perished in the heat. The UK is expecting the hottest day on record.
‘Just hell.’ 5 countries suffering in Europe’s heat wave
‘Unprecedented’ lethal weather starts to engulf European nations.
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A helicopter drops water on a wildfire near Bustelo, in the north of Portugal on July 16, 2022 | Patricia de Melo Moreira/AFP via Getty Images
BY ANTOANETA ROUSSI AND EDDY WAX
July 16, 2022 7:32 pm
As Europe feels the heat, politicians are sweating.
In the U.K., an emergency Cabinet meeting was called Saturday to discuss Britain’s first-ever “Extreme Red” heat warning. In France, one lawmaker described the sweltering weather as “hell.” In Portugal, the prime minister is monitoring dangerous forest fires.
With temperatures in Western Europe set to soar beyond 40 degrees Celsius this week, Southern Europe is already fighting the effects of more blistering summer heat, which scientists say is a result of the world’s changing climate.
Across the Mediterranean, firefighters have struggled to contain blazes, rivers have run dry and thousands of people have been evacuated from their homes. So far, more than 230 people have died from heat-related effects in Spain and 238 in Portugal, according to local media reports.
The temperatures — the result of a slow-moving high-pressure area, bringing scorching air up from North Africa — are expected to continue this week and move north and eastward toward France, Germany, Belgium and the U.K.
Here are five countries which are feeling the effects of Europe’s heat wave.
Portugal
The Portuguese government lowered the alert level a notch Sunday because of an improvement in the weather conditions that had seen hundreds of fires breaking out in recent days.
Nearly 250 new blazes were reported Friday and Saturday, most northeast of Porto, but on Sunday the government said that temperatures may drop by up to 8 degrees in coming days. The lowering of the alert level will allow farmers to harvest summer crops in the early morning and evening.
According to Reuters, the Portuguese health ministry said Saturday night that more than 650 people had died because of the heat in the preceding week, with most deaths occurring among the elderly. One person was dying every forty minutes, between July 7 and 13.
Lousã in the center of Portugal hit a record 46.3 degrees on Wednesday. The government has announced a red alert in 16 of the mainland’s 18 districts with more than a hundred municipalities at maximum risk of rural fires. Portugal’s Prime Minister António Costa canceled a planned state visit to Mozambique in order to stay and monitor the fires.
Costa paid tribute to André Serra, a firefighting pilot who died Friday when his plane crashed while he was battling a blaze in Torre de Moncorvo.
“We are facing an almost unprecedented situation in meteorological terms,” Andre Fernandes, the national commander of civil protection, said Saturday.
Italy has sent Portugal two firefighting jets under the EU’s Civil Protection Mechanism.
Spain
A helicopter drops water on a raging wildfire in Spain’s Sierra de Mijas mountain range | Jorge Guerrero/AFP via Getty Images![]()
Some 30 separate fires are raging across vast swathes of Spain, and temperatures have rocketed above 40 degrees in some places for several days already.
Around 360 people may have died between July 10 and July 15 due to the extreme heat, the Carlos III public health institute has estimated. The victims include a 60-year-old man who was working as a street cleaner for Madrid City Council, when he collapsed on Friday. His body temperature was 41.6 degrees when he was discovered.
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Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez will visit the Extremadura region on western Spain on Monday where people have been evacuated to escape the fires.
Blazes have already destroyed around 14,000 hectares of land across the country from Andalusia and Extremadura in the south and west, through the central regions of Castilla-La Mancha and Castilla y León, and in Murcia and the Valencia region to the east.
Almost half of the wooded area of Sierra de la Culebra, a mountain range in the northwest of Spain, has burned — making it the largest fire recorded in Spanish history, with areas in Figueruela de Arriba still alight.
Near the Costa del Sol in southern Spain, a popular tourist destination, around 2,300 people had to flee a wildfire which has spread in the Sierra de Mijas mountain range.
Added to the heat, a lack of rainfall means Spain’s reservoirs were at 44.4 percent of their total capacity this Wednesday — down from an average of 65.7 percent in this period in the last decade, according to authorities.
Italy
Italy’s Po River has hit record low water levels after months without heavy rainfall | Marco Sabadin/AFP via Getty Images![]()
The Po River, Italy’s longest, has hit record low water levels after months without heavy rainfall. Stretching from the Alps to the Adriatic Sea, the vital source of water is used for drinking, irrigation and hydroelectric power. In the Piedmont region of northern Italy, more than 170 municipalities have issued, or are planning to issue, ordinances on water consumption, meaning a ban on all use other than for food, domestic use and health care. Anyone caught using water for irrigation of public or private gardens, washing of courtyards or cars, could be fined up to €500.
Italy’s teetering government has declared a state of emergency across much of the north.
On Saturday, bishop Enrico Solmi held a mass on the banks of the river in respect of families personally affected. The procession ended with the blessing of the waters and a prayer for rain, which hasn’t been seen for more than 200 days.
France
Evacuation centers were set up to help thousands of people forced to flee as wildfires raged in southwestern France | Gaizka Iroz/AFP via Getty Images![]()
In France, more than 14,000 people have been evacuated from areas in the southwest of the country, as forest fires rage in the department of Gironde.
According to local media, three major fires are still active and almost 11,000 hectares of land had burned by Sunday, where a southern wind known as the mistral is fueling the spread. The meteorological department has put 15 departments on heat wave red alert from Brittany down the west coast, and another 51 departments on orange alert, from the northwest of France to the Côte d’Azur. “The situation is still very unfavorable,” the local prefecture of the Gironde said Sunday.
Temperatures were expected to hit 40 degrees in the northwest region of Brittany on Sunday.
Green French lawmaker Melanie Vogel tweeted soil surface temperature was measured at 59 degrees in Spain and 48 degrees in the south of France. “This is not just summer,” she wrote. “It is just hell and will pretty soon become just the end of human life if we continue with our climate inaction.”
U.K.
Government officials in Britain have warned the country should brace itself for the hottest days in its history on Monday and Tuesday, with temperatures set to hit a record 40 degrees. The Meteorological Office issued the first ever red alert for exceptional heat, meaning healthy people, not just the vulnerable, could be susceptible to illness and death.
An emergency cabinet meeting — the second one on the issue — was held Saturday to discuss the heat wave. Cabinet minister Kit Malthouse said the U.K. was pushing to ensure it had the “right contingencies” in place, including “supporting schools, health and emergency services as well as major events and the UK’s transport networks.”
Met Office spokesman Grahame Madge urged people with vulnerable relatives or neighbours “to make sure they’re putting suitable measures in place … because if the forecast is as we think it will be in the red warning area, then people’s lives are at risk.”
Several actions have been proposed by government, including railway speed restrictions on some parts of the network to limit breakages and the closure of schools in the south of the country.
This article has been updated.
That is what I thought but I didn't know the difference was that much.we're a very small Island with a population of 70 million.. ( compared to approx 5 million in Oregon the UK is slightly smaller than oregon )...we don't have the space, we're extremely overcrowded ..
yes we're not very keen on the overcrowding here either...so much more people than when I was a kid.. the traffic is horrendous almost everywhere , and even here in the rural area.. we're seeing apartment blocks being built in the hundreds and people from the cities being housed here, and making our quiet rural roads very much busier.. but the motorways and the city roads, are nightmares..and with that also comes not enough parking spaces either.. or very expensive parking spaces....a lot of road rage.. thnkfully people can't routinely access guns here or there might be a lot more serious problems than we already haveThat is what I thought but I didn't know the difference was that much.I don't think I could do well on an island with many people.
As we accept rain as better than fires, many of us are getting very nervous about the population growth we have had. I drive people around town and the traffic in the last 5 years has gotten intense, but nowhere near the intense traffic in Southern California.
I do not drive in Portland with its very narrow streets built long ago, and very large population. I am sure heaven is not a large city and long drives to get to nature.
I have a tiny personal air cooler like the one here.... https://www.amazon.com/Ontel-Arctic...cphy=9033027&hvtargid=pla-1190506540035&psc=1We found some (I'm in the states too, btwDC area), portable units, but they need to vent outside and he can't have such a thing in his apartment so swamp coolers were the option. He's still doing well, and apparently, it's raining now in his part of Sussex, so you know, yay.
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this is interesting....I have a tiny personal air cooler like the one here.... https://www.amazon.com/Ontel-Arctic...cphy=9033027&hvtargid=pla-1190506540035&psc=1
I haven't even plugged it yet because we have still had cool nights when I can cool my apartment down. But I am curious about what the little air cooler will do, so I may try it soon. Someone I know complained about how it isn't much good, but she always complains. I think it will be fine in my small space.
If I do have trouble sleeping I will try the bedding that stays cool. There are many choices for having a cool bed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coo....0i512l10.11986j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
sometimes no good deed goes unpunished...Just waiting for it to begin here as our entire country is extremely hot. I see Greece is also fighting serious fires. With all our trees on the Pacific coast and across the forested areas, there is bound to be multiple lightning strikes from this excessive heat. Friends cancelled their vacation in our Pine Barrens here in NJ due to fire alerts.
We should tell all those hot people to take cold showers and stop having sex.Nature has a way of controlling over-population. There's Covid, sexual aberrations which limit procreation and now fires from too many people tipping the climate away from what used to be normal.
That thing is cute and looks like it would work well in the kitchen or even bathroom.I have a tiny personal air cooler like the one here.... https://www.amazon.com/Ontel-Arctic...cphy=9033027&hvtargid=pla-1190506540035&psc=1
I haven't even plugged it yet because we have still had cool nights when I can cool my apartment down. But I am curious about what the little air cooler will do, so I may try it soon. Someone I know complained about how it isn't much good, but she always complains. I think it will be fine in my small space.
If I do have trouble sleeping I will try the bedding that stays cool. There are many choices for having a cool bed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coo....0i512l10.11986j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I am hoping it works when I am at my computer and when I go to bed.That thing is cute and looks like it would work well in the kitchen or even bathroom.
Thursday got warm enough for me to wear a wet towel when thought I was going to have to ride the bus home after dropping my car off with the mechanic. With the wet towel and a cold drink, I was fine.When it's icy cold, you can sit close to a fire, all bundled up. But when it's oppressively hot, it's everywhere, you can't get away from it. And with temps of 105, the weak will perish. I fear this is only a preview of the effects of global warming.
I remember, just a few years ago, media news showing thousands and thousands of Middle East migrants waiting at the Calais, France port for passage to go to the UK. Even then I knew that there is something wrong here. Even then I knew the UK was over crowded. The UK cannot take in every unhappy immigrant in this world no matter what the politican try to tell you during their wonderful "photo opps." The more people that move to the UK then more of the quality of life suffers. I could say more but I wouldn't. You who live there know what I'm talking about!yes we're not very keen on the overcrowding here either...so much more people than when I was a kid.. the traffic is horrendous almost everywhere , and even here in the rural area.. we're seeing apartment blocks being built in the hundreds and people from the cities being housed here, and making our quiet rural roads very much busier.. but the motorways and the city roads, are nightmares..and with that also comes not enough parking spaces either.. or very expensive parking spaces....a lot of road rage.. thnkfully people can't routinely access guns here or there might be a lot more serious problems than we already have