Holy Smokes! Trump's Solutions & Details Unprecedented for Early Campaigning!

If so Trump may win and then eliminate many of the Obama mistakes.

Is Hillary going to continue? Big question right now and we have more folks looking at running for the Democrat ticket.
 
Lara said:
We have enough oil in our own country to never need the Middle East but the rules need to be lifted here in order to tap into it. There will always be wars as long as we have the likes of Isis, 9/11, WMD, etc….threats to our national security and freedom.
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Aren't we actually exporting oil to other countries? I don't think that being self sufficient in that area will stop the war hawks from wanting to dominate and control oil supplies in other countries. As far as Isis, G.W. Bush appeared to help them develop. As far as 9/11 and "weapons of mass destruction", those were selling points for the senseless invasion of Iraq by G. W. Bush.

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"You stated that ISIS was created because we don't have enough presence and we've been pulling out of the Middle East," she said. "However, the threat of ISIS was created by the Iraqi coalition authority, which ousted the entire government of Iraq.

It was when 30,000 individuals who are part of the Iraqi military were forced out. They had no employment, they had no income, yet they were left with access to all the same arms and weapons."
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Ziedrich's rebuttal to Bush came at a moment when the likely candidate was already facing questions over an earlier statement that appeared to suggest he supported the invasion of Iraq. (Bush walked back those comments Thursday, saying that "knowing what we know now," he would not have invaded the country.)

And while Bush might not like to admit it, the truth is that Ziedrich's comments capture a point that has long been emphasized by Middle East watchers -- namely, that the Bush administration's mismanagement of Iraq encouraged thousands of skilled Iraqis to take their expertise to the anti-American insurgency that eventually became the Islamic State.

Jeb Bush and other Republicans have accused Obama of enabling the insurgency by withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq at the end of 2011.

The administration says it could not have maintained the troops there without an agreement to protect them that Baghdad was not at the time willing to sign.
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Behind the Iraq Invasion:

https://www.seniorforums.com/showthread.php/14693-Review-of-the-Iraq-Invasion?highlight=9/11+attack
 
I have grown weary of trying to point out what should be obvious to anyone not blinded the shiny moving object and the calm voice saying "you are relaxed, you can barely hold your eyes open, you are going to sleep." Accordingly, I am outta this Trump ego pumping thread.
 
Lon said:
Changing the Constitution----------Not improbable at all if American sentiment supports the idea.

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That's true, Lon. All Congress has to do is pass a law to clarify the 14th Amendment ending birthright citizenship.

Should be easier to pass now that the 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress). That's 247 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate…the largest Republican majority since 1929.
 
Lara said:
We have enough oil in our own country to never need the Middle East but the rules need to be lifted here in order to tap into it. There will always be wars as long as we have the likes of Isis, 9/11, WMD, etc….threats to our national security and freedom.
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Sea Breeze, the reason I mentioned 9/11 and WMD threats is because those will always start wars to protect our national security (9/11 is what made Bush decide to look for WMDs). Yes, Bush's search for WMDs was a mistaken reason since none were found, but there are still looming threats. Take North Korea, huge reason to suck us into war when that gets out of hand or when they are pointed at us.
 
That's true, Lon. All Congress has to do is pass a law to clarify the 14th Amendment ending birthright citizenship.
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Should be easier to pass now that the 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress). That's 247 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate…the largest Republican majority since 1929.
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Is there anyone here who has NOT benefited from birthright citizenship? If your parents or grand parents immigrated here from another country.. YOU are a citizen NOW because of birthright citizenship.. Or maybe we should just say.. if your parents came from an "approved" country ( hint hint wink wink) white European THEN birthright citizenship should be allowed... If Brown or Black?? well.. not so much.

oh.. and Lara... forgetting about the filibuster and a 60 vote majority needed to pass anything? I believe it was YOUR party that took full advantage of that when they were in the minority.. DON'T you think we will?? It will NEVER pass into law..

In addition LARA.... Here is how the constitution is amended..

1. Propose An Amendment
Either Congress or the States can propose an amendment ot the Constitution.

  • Both Houses of Congress must propose the amendment with a two-thirds vote. This is how all current amendments have been offered.
  • Two-thirds of the State legislatures must call on Congress to hold a Constitutional Convention.

2. Ratify An Admendment
Regardless of how the amendment is proposed, it must be ratified by the States.

  • Three-fourths of the State legislatures must approve of the amendment proposed by Congress, or
  • Three-fourths of the states must approve the amendment via ratifying conventions. This method has only been used once, to repeal Prohibition (21st Amendment).

2/3rds of the Senate is 66 votes by my count... what is it to you? Good luck getting anything passed with your "largest majority sinse 1929"

It will NEVER happen.



 
And to hell with "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free?" What a sad turn of events for a country that was built by immigrants.
 
Lon said:
Changing the Constitution----------Not improbable at all if American sentiment supports the idea.

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This is the problem with the Right Wing Echo Chamber.. They spend all their time talking to each other and have themselves convinced that ALL Americans feel the way they do.. It's simply not true Lon.. All Americans don't support the Far Right agenda.. America is center left when people are actually given choices that they see benefits them. Yet FOX and the Right Wing media convinces people like you... with their constant chatter and skewed polls that you are in the majority.. and you believe it.
 
MaryZPA said:
And to hell with "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free?" What a sad turn of events for a country that was built by immigrants.
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Mary and Quick Silver….the issue is not about immigrants. This is about illegal immigrants.

…and Quick Silver, Lon said IF Americans support the idea….and he did not say ALL Americans, he said "it's not improbable at all" :)
 
Lara said:
Mary and Quick Silver….the issue is not about immigrants. This is about illegal immigrants.

…and Quick Silver, Lon said IF Americans support the idea….and he did not say ALL Americans, he said "it's not improbable at all" :)
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Lara... in this situation... IF means slime to NONE...

Also.. my grandparents immigrated from Germany in the early 1900's and had no special papers.. Just the cost of passage on a steam ship.. All of us are probably illegal by today's standards.
 
QuickSilver said:
...my grandparents immigrated from Germany in the early 1900's and had no special papers.. Just the cost of passage on a steam ship.. All of us are probably illegal by today's standards.
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True….but that was the early 1900's. It's now the 21st century. We weren't 20 Trillion dollars in debt in 1900 with an explosion in population and a draining on our resources of doctors and teachers, etc. I lived in California in 1985 and sent my daughter to the public school. The Mexican children were darling and the parents were hard workers and kind people. But the school room was divided with half illegals who couldn't speak any English and the other half were legal citizens who could speak English.

The teacher spent so much time trying to communicate with the illegals (not just language but explaining everything like cultural differences) that the whole class was slow. There weren't enough state resources to hire translators for every class. I had to pull her out and send her to a private school in order to learn at the rate Americans were learning. Not all Americans could afford private schooling there.
 
QuickSilver said:
This is the problem with the Right Wing Echo Chamber.. They spend all their time talking to each other and have themselves convinced that ALL Americans feel the way they do.. It's simply not true Lon.. All Americans don't support the Far Right agenda.. America is center left when people are actually given choices that they see benefits them. Yet FOX and the Right Wing media convinces people like you... with their constant chatter and skewed polls that you are in the majority.. and you believe it.
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Not all of the US is far right nor is it center left. It is made of several mind sets and there are the centered rights as well. As things are going I think the centered left and centered right should take over and try to end this far left way of running our government. We have had many years of success with the states running things to benefit their people. We need to get back into that situation again. With what has happened in the last fifty years our federal government has been picking away at states rights and responsibilities and have turned the US into a financial disaster and it gets worse with each year.

Nothing wrong with FOX NEWS and most US media is left, not right. Polls are not skewed at all. They just don't come out the way you wish. Don't trust any poll that only ends up with one side or the other always on top. They just can't be trusted. For now the elections are over a year away and till then, all is just wishful thinking and nothing more.
 
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Part of the majesty of the Constitution is that it protects us from blowhards like Donald Trump. Its amendments have traditionally extended rights, not denied them, and I would work hard to be sure that remains the case.
 
QuickSilver said:
Lara... in this situation... IF means slime to NONE...

Also.. my grandparents immigrated from Germany in the early 1900's and had no special papers.. Just the cost of passage on a steam ship.. All of us are probably illegal by today's standards.
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Not at all as my grandfather also came here from Germany, and with his two brothers, they did come in the accepted way and not by hiding in trucks or crawling under the border fences and then sneaking into areas where they could find jobs. That is what is supposed to happen today as well. Come in, be recognized, and pay your state and federal taxes when you do find a job. These illegal immigrants are taking all they can, schools, free medical, drive around, and pay no taxes or fees that support these items they use.
 

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