Homeless Man Who Helped Woman is Now Suing Her

I'm watching this story progress and the only thing I'm trying to figure out is did the woman/couple flatout scam the homeless guy or did all three agree to it at first then the homeless realized he was getting scammed by the scammers?
 

WhatInThe said:
I'm watching this story progress and the only thing I'm trying to figure out is did the woman/couple flatout scam the homeless guy or did all three agree to it at first then the homeless realized he was getting scammed by the scammers?
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Don't forget that the couple scammed and defrauded the people who donated money, who donated to help a homeless guy, not to help some dishonest yuppie couple upgrade their lifestyle.

I think all the blame lies squarely at the door of the couple, and I hope the judge throws the book at them.
 

Butterfly said:
Don't forget that the couple scammed and defrauded the people who donated money, who donated to help a homeless guy, not to help some dishonest yuppie couple upgrade their lifestyle.

I think all the blame lies squarely at the door of the couple, and I hope the judge throws the book at them.
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100% agree!!!
 
According to the story the couple used some of the money to buy the man a trailer to live in and had it put on their property. Why in the world would a couple want a man they don't know living on their property? That could be quite unsafe. With $400,000 they could have set him up somewhere else. I hate GoFund Me as it's abused quite often. I really think the couple is in the wrong here.

Yes Falcon, I remembered the same thing when I saw the name Bobbitt. Lorena amputated her husband's ***** for committing adultery, if memory serves me right.
 
fmdog44 said:
Will the judge ask how many bottles of booze and how many pounds of drugs will be used with the money? Help those that DESERVE help.
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Probably not. That is not the point here.

The point is that here people gave money without qualification to this man, and the couple used the money for themselves, which is basically theft. It was not their place, nor is it the judge's, to put qualifications on how he uses the money. People gave to the homeless man and it is HIS money, not the couple's. Whether the man deserves help is not the issue -- the issue is that the couple wrongfully used the money that was intended for him.

If you ask me for money for Mr. Smith and I give it to you to give to him, do you then have the right to keep that money for yourself because you do not approve of what he wants to spend it on? The answer is NO, and that's this case in a nutshell.
 
Giantsfan1954 said:
How could anyone be so stupid to think they could get away with this...
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If the homeless guy wasn't in on it my guess is the couple wrote the guy off as a drug addict or didn't think he was sharp enough to realize what they were doing. The story from the get go was ify. I think the couple and/or woman went looking for drugs, ran across and befriended the homeless guy. Who leaves home, drives a car on empty without a few bucks or credit card in their pocket. Wonder what her last $20 was spent on?
 
I am embarrassed to say this, but I found out that two years ago, my nephew put up a "Fund Me" page stating that he needed a new engine for his car. In reality, he told those of us that he told this story to that he really needed the money for himself to catch up on bills. I didn't know if this was illegal or not, so I just walked away from the group. He is single and likes to live like a 5 year old playboy.

He spouted this story about how he bought a new Hyundai (I think) and the engine went out, but Hyundai would not replace it because he did not keep up with the maintenance. It sounds logical and may be true, but is it? He lives some 225 miles from me, so maybe yes, or maybe no.
 
oldman said:
I am embarrassed to say this, but I found out that two years ago, my nephew put up a "Fund Me" page stating that he needed a new engine for his car. In reality, he told those of us that he told this story to that he really needed the money for himself to catch up on bills. I didn't know if this was illegal or not, so I just walked away from the group. He is single and likes to live like a 5 year old playboy.

He spouted this story about how he bought a new Hyundai (I think) and the engine went out, but Hyundai would not replace it because he did not keep up with the maintenance. It sounds logical and may be true, but is it? He lives some 225 miles from me, so maybe yes, or maybe no.
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The experts have talking about the lack of formalities with Gofundme since this case started. An actual charity has much more accountability and transparency. Perhaps were at the point the gofundmes should be posting follow ups on the recipients and/or those who set it up. One way is to make the recipient post receipts for what ever they bought. This homeless guy should've been forced to submit rental or morgage paperwork for house or apartment and receipts from a drug rehab facility(with personal info redacted). Doesn't have to be a criminal issue but donors should know where their money went to.
 
oldman said:
I am embarrassed to say this, but I found out that two years ago, my nephew put up a "Fund Me" page stating that he needed a new engine for his car. In reality, he told those of us that he told this story to that he really needed the money for himself to catch up on bills. I didn't know if this was illegal or not, so I just walked away from the group. He is single and likes to live like a 5 year old playboy.

He spouted this story about how he bought a new Hyundai (I think) and the engine went out, but Hyundai would not replace it because he did not keep up with the maintenance. It sounds logical and may be true, but is it? He lives some 225 miles from me, so maybe yes, or maybe no.
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Curious - how much money did he collect?
 
oldman said:
I am embarrassed to say this, but I found out that two years ago, my nephew put up a "Fund Me" page stating that he needed a new engine for his car. In reality, he told those of us that he told this story to that he really needed the money for himself to catch up on bills. I didn't know if this was illegal or not, so I just walked away from the group. He is single and likes to live like a 5 year old playboy.

He spouted this story about how he bought a new Hyundai (I think) and the engine went out, but Hyundai would not replace it because he did not keep up with the maintenance. It sounds logical and may be true, but is it? He lives some 225 miles from me, so maybe yes, or maybe no.
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^^

Oldman, how much did your nephew collect?
 
I'm not implying that the homeless guy was in on the scam, but ...

Think how easy it would be for three people to pull this off. One could pose as a destitute homeless person, then the other 2 could set up a scenario where he helped them, tell a few people, they tell more people, a GoFundMe account is set up, voila!

People often donate/give money without verifying need and without following up - and I'm not just referring to GoFundMe.

Years ago I was friends with a couple who told me about an acquaintance of theirs who asked them for money because he was behind in his rent. They refused because he'd abruptly quit a decent job and they suspected he had a gambling problem.

Long to short, the guy found out about a prominent church that helped people financially, he gave some sob story and they (the church) contacted his landlord and found out he was behind in rent, which they paid directly to the landlord. Then he went to some social service agency and got his utilities paid. However, he continued to max out his credit cards getting cash advances and gambling.
 
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There really is 0 accountability.
I set one up for a close friends grandson who needs a kidney transplant,is being raised by a single mom on not much above minimum wage,treatment is 2+ hours from their small town and its one of those cases where she doesn't accrue anytime,so no work,no pay.
Anyway,it got somewhere in the neighborhood of 800.00 and the donations had pretty much dropped off so they made a mutual decision to close it.
The daughter and the grandson didn't have bank accounts so my friend the grandmother,put her bank information in and it was deposited into her account and she sent a check to them,we're in NYS,the family is down South.
All it asked for was her account info,she didnt need to provide any proof of any kind that she was related or anything, not even a SS number.
I think its a good idea for people to help people but I also think it should probably have some safety features so that something like this doesn't become more common. ..maybe it will.
Hell,if I call my bank for a balance check,I need my moms maiden name and the last 4 of my social.
 
Looks like GoFundMe will make up the difference of whatever money this couple scammed from him.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/...-money-kate-mcclure-mark-damico-20180906.html

AC, formerly homeless people with addiction problems are quite straightforward with their advice to not give cash, gift cards, etc., to addicts because it enables them and delays their recovery. However, this isn't true of people who are homeless because of economic difficulties.

I wish there were an easy way for people and agencies to know the difference. In the meantime, I very rarely give money to street people and don't respond to GoFundMe requests. I'd rather make donations to our local food banks and mission outreach organizations.
 
I hope they sell all the couple's valuables and give it to the man. It was raised for him, not the two crooks that spent most of it on themselves. Sometimes in the case of a person whose mind is obviously not working right and no relative to take charge of finances, the courts set things up to appoint a responsible person to pay bills and give that person a bit of money for food. As I recall, the original idea with this guy was to buy him a home, but obviously the couple wanted most of the money themselves. They thought, since he was obviously a drunk, he'd just go away when they stopped giving him any money.
 

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