How About Them Supremes (Hobby Lobby)
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Today's newspaper made a good point about all this. It said it's interesting how the Supreme Court unanimously agreed that the police need a search warrant before poking their noses into anyone's cell phone. But the vote on providing contraception was split. How come? Well, their explanation was that all the S.C. justices presumably possess cell phones. But only three of them possess uteruses. Guess how those three voted?
I guess the verdict is in, a corporation is a person. I wonder if the Hobby Lobby person is against ****** for their male employees, I hope not, that's much more important than birth control.
Lol Marinaio, you'd make a good politician making statements like that!
Don't know if you can cook as well as I can, or parallel park...oooh, those darn stereotypes! The problem is that everything anyone wants now becomes a right, there was a time in this country when citizens had a personal responsibility to purchase what they wanted and ask for help for things they needed but couldn't afford. This demand mentality is crap and if it continues it will destroy our society, it's already well on the way to that end. This isn't about Women's Rights or Women's Health at all, almost everyone can afford the contraceptives at issue and there is already help available for those who cannot. This is about shutting down any opposition to a movement to socialize the US, bring every aspect of our lives under the control of some government bureau; it's accomplishing this by demanding government provide any and all wants either directly or by forcing private corporations to do so.
The religion aspect of all this is particularly onerous in that it attempts to subvert the basic tenets of Christianity and force Christians to violate their firmly and historically held beliefs. There is no telling which segments of the population will be attacked next if this is successful nor will there be any limits on the attacks. Christians are well accustomed to persecution having had a couple thousand years of it and are unlikely to buckle under. It's a dangerous exercise by those backing this mandate because a subgroup of them will likely become the target of the next attack by some "Rights" group and on and on.
While I am deeply saddened, disgusted by the deaths of over 5 million unborn children I realize I cannot stop the practice but I can refuse to be a party to any of it and I will not be cowed by bullies at any level from Obama and his administration goons to my neighbors. The eventual outcome of this mandate would have been/will be civil disobedience at a level never before experienced here. Can you imagine the global reaction if the US starts jailing Christian clerics, nuns and citizens for refusing to violate their religious rights?
The religion aspect of all this is particularly onerous in that it attempts to subvert the basic tenets of Christianity and force Christians to violate their firmly and historically held beliefs. There is no telling which segments of the population will be attacked next if this is successful nor will there be any limits on the attacks. Christians are well accustomed to persecution having had a couple thousand years of it and are unlikely to buckle under. It's a dangerous exercise by those backing this mandate because a subgroup of them will likely become the target of the next attack by some "Rights" group and on and on.
While I am deeply saddened, disgusted by the deaths of over 5 million unborn children I realize I cannot stop the practice but I can refuse to be a party to any of it and I will not be cowed by bullies at any level from Obama and his administration goons to my neighbors. The eventual outcome of this mandate would have been/will be civil disobedience at a level never before experienced here. Can you imagine the global reaction if the US starts jailing Christian clerics, nuns and citizens for refusing to violate their religious rights?
For what it is worth I pretty much agree.
These Supremes are the ones I expected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Supremes
Obama made the Hobby Lobby ruling obsolete, now women who work for "religious" companies will not be denied access to birth control. Thanks to our President, another 'fire' has been put out. Full story here.
In 21st Century America, evangelical Republicans are those who demand it is “their way or the highway” and there is no greater example than the religious Republican crusade to control women’s reproductive health; or better put, to force every woman in America into being perpetual birth machines.
Last year a wildly popular evangelical talking point to support their demand for control over American women was they would not tolerate any woman, married or single, having “consequence free sex;” restricting birth control was the religious right’s method of punishing women who failed to toe the evangelical line and remain celibate or perpetually pregnant.
The idea of Christian conservatives wielding control over women’s reproductive health was behind the Hobby Lobby v. Burwell lawsuit that the Vatican-5 on the Supreme Court decided was evangelical employer’s religious liberty to control women and prevent them from having consequence free sexual relations.
According to the Catholic justices’ ruling, the Obama Administration ‘must‘ provide an accommodation for “religious” for-profit corporations and on Friday, President Obama did just that in response to the High Court’s decision.
In fact, what President Obama did was effectively neuter the Hobby Lobby ruling and ensure that all women, even those employed by ‘religious corporations,’ will still have birth control covered at no cost to them; even if their evangelical employers object and refuse to provide it.
The sad, unfortunate women who happen to work for a church, or place of worship though, are still bound to adhere to their employer’s religious edict that under no circumstances will they be allowed to have ‘consequence free’ sex.
The way the new rule is written, a religious corporation that refuses to allow their employees’ health plans to provide contraception will write a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and claim that their religious freedom demands they control women’s sexual activities.
The HHS will then notify a third-party insurer that the company’s theocratic owners’ insist on controlling women and the third-party insurer will provide birth control coverage to the employees at no additional cost to the religious corporation or the female employees.
The Secretary of the HHS released a statement saying that “Women across the country should have access to preventive services, including contraception. We recognize the deeply held views on these issues and are committed to securing women’s access to important preventive services at no additional costs while respecting religious beliefs.”
In 21st Century America, evangelical Republicans are those who demand it is “their way or the highway” and there is no greater example than the religious Republican crusade to control women’s reproductive health; or better put, to force every woman in America into being perpetual birth machines.
Last year a wildly popular evangelical talking point to support their demand for control over American women was they would not tolerate any woman, married or single, having “consequence free sex;” restricting birth control was the religious right’s method of punishing women who failed to toe the evangelical line and remain celibate or perpetually pregnant.
The idea of Christian conservatives wielding control over women’s reproductive health was behind the Hobby Lobby v. Burwell lawsuit that the Vatican-5 on the Supreme Court decided was evangelical employer’s religious liberty to control women and prevent them from having consequence free sexual relations.
According to the Catholic justices’ ruling, the Obama Administration ‘must‘ provide an accommodation for “religious” for-profit corporations and on Friday, President Obama did just that in response to the High Court’s decision.
In fact, what President Obama did was effectively neuter the Hobby Lobby ruling and ensure that all women, even those employed by ‘religious corporations,’ will still have birth control covered at no cost to them; even if their evangelical employers object and refuse to provide it.
The sad, unfortunate women who happen to work for a church, or place of worship though, are still bound to adhere to their employer’s religious edict that under no circumstances will they be allowed to have ‘consequence free’ sex.
The way the new rule is written, a religious corporation that refuses to allow their employees’ health plans to provide contraception will write a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and claim that their religious freedom demands they control women’s sexual activities.
The HHS will then notify a third-party insurer that the company’s theocratic owners’ insist on controlling women and the third-party insurer will provide birth control coverage to the employees at no additional cost to the religious corporation or the female employees.
The Secretary of the HHS released a statement saying that “Women across the country should have access to preventive services, including contraception. We recognize the deeply held views on these issues and are committed to securing women’s access to important preventive services at no additional costs while respecting religious beliefs.”