How to deal with a Troll, is my question. I have been studying it, on the internet and YouTube for some time. Quite fascinating I find, for the question may be how to act or not react. I have a way I deal with a Troll; I make myself a Troll Trap to see who may have fallen inside.
How do you deal with a Troll?
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Nathan
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Internet trolls are people who(because of anonymity of being on the internet) take small minded, juvenile joy in over-stepping conventional standards of human interaction. They intentionally annoy, bully, insult and try to push their narrow minded views on others.
Stand your ground, maintain a respectable demeanor. If on social media report the troll to the admins if you're being harassed.
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Bellbird
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Block the troll wherever you can, web sites, forums emails etc.
hollydolly
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Simply block them, put them on ignore whatever works for the forum you're on, .. it's like firing them into space.. never to be seen or heard by you ever again.. job done!!
RadishRose
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Ignore them.
Hold your temper and do NOT respond, that's what they're hoping for.
If they can't get any attention, and I mean ANY, they'll go elsewhere.
Put them on Ignore to spare yourself their antics.
Hold your temper and do NOT respond, that's what they're hoping for.
If they can't get any attention, and I mean ANY, they'll go elsewhere.
Put them on Ignore to spare yourself their antics.
Nathan
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The Psychology Today article was helpful in defining the internet troll phenomena, illustrating the correlation between loneliness and aggression. Indeed the same mechanisms may be in play to help explain the lone wolf shooter/mass murderer profile.
Gaer
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I'm not sure what a troll is exactly, but if it's someone who attacks you constantly and has to inject mean , little jabs of hate
to mock you, belittle you, hurt you, demean your name and your integrity, (or someone you loved ), then I'm being "trolled" right now.
One is on this very thread.
"Ignore" only keeps you from reading the mean things they are saying about you. It won't stop them.
The more witty they are, the more proud they are of their cruelty.
I guess the best thing to do is not attend to it. Don't give him (or her) fuel to use against you. Indifference.
This is something I will never understand. You see, the people on this forum who have attacked me constantly
are people I really liked, people for whom I had a great esteem! Not some "neckbeard living in his Mama's basement".
and,
after they have broken your spirit, they trample and stomp on you! They REALLY want to hurt you!
They want to break you and make you cry! They DID hurt me and make me cry. Why would they want to do that?
I always thought myself a strong person but now I know I'm not. Words hurt! Losing a friend hurts!
I guess what hurts the most is I thought these were people of worth.
of quality in their souls, but I know now, they are cruel.
to mock you, belittle you, hurt you, demean your name and your integrity, (or someone you loved ), then I'm being "trolled" right now.
One is on this very thread.
"Ignore" only keeps you from reading the mean things they are saying about you. It won't stop them.
The more witty they are, the more proud they are of their cruelty.
I guess the best thing to do is not attend to it. Don't give him (or her) fuel to use against you. Indifference.
This is something I will never understand. You see, the people on this forum who have attacked me constantly
are people I really liked, people for whom I had a great esteem! Not some "neckbeard living in his Mama's basement".
and,
after they have broken your spirit, they trample and stomp on you! They REALLY want to hurt you!
They want to break you and make you cry! They DID hurt me and make me cry. Why would they want to do that?
I always thought myself a strong person but now I know I'm not. Words hurt! Losing a friend hurts!
I guess what hurts the most is I thought these were people of worth.
of quality in their souls, but I know now, they are cruel.
Sassycakes
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Trolls don't deserve your replies to them. Is there a way to block them from replying to your posts? If not please remember I am Italian and I can call my cousins to help you !
Gaer
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Oh! That is so funny! Thanks! I've asked a couple of them to pleas not respond to my posts or threads but they do anyway!
Thank you though! You made me laugh!
Flarbalard
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I hear the Three Billy Goats Gruff are quite experienced in these matters.
SeniorBen
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I think somebody posted this link above, but it explains the troll mentality...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201908/what-makes-internet-trolls-tick
Oh for cryin' out load
Get over it
Never was personal
I had a concern
Now I don't
I removed my snide remarks on your 'sad' thread for two reasons
1) They actually were rather trollish
2) You asked for me to not post anything
Now just let this shit go
I have
Bring it
Beezer
Senior Member
I've only been on this forum for around 300 posts, but in regards to @Gary O'...
Seems to me he sends up everyone...doesn't cherry pick. Of course if you isolate a single one of his posts he can come across as a bandit, but to be fair I think he has some fun with everyone on an equal basis.
My 2 cents.
Seems to me he sends up everyone...doesn't cherry pick. Of course if you isolate a single one of his posts he can come across as a bandit, but to be fair I think he has some fun with everyone on an equal basis.
My 2 cents.
Hey, I love Gary O' .. he's a good guy.
RadishRose
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I don't understand. Please clarify, thanks.
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I remember now! There was a troll under the bridge... Norse fairytale.
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Wombat
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Just push them off the bridge.
hollydolly
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There's certainly trolls and they're little beeches.. but there;s also professional Victims.. who cry foul if anyone looks at them the wrong way.. and thats just as buddy irritating.. just put them on ignore either way..
Bella
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You Can't Win an Argument with an Internet Troll, So What Can You Do? > https://www.webroot.com/us/en/resources/tips-articles/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll
"There are trolls online. Not the fairy tale kind that sits under bridges: weâre talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they possibly can.
Trolls agitate to start fights between friends or strangers; they torment those struggling with illnesses or with the loss of a loved one, people unsure of their identity or their looks, or any other weakness a troll can find. They disrupt forums with off-topic comments, brag nonstop about themselves, ridicule the thoughts of others or insert controversial comments to disrupt conversations.
Trolls spread lies, deceive and cause damage, and they enjoy every minute they can make someone else miserable. They may be obnoxious teens, but more often than not theyâre seemingly ânormalâ adults who use internet anonymity to shed their veneer of decency and show their ugly selves. Trolls are basically cyberbullies on steroids â cowards afraid to show their face but nastier and more dedicated than garden-variety bullies. They are often fairly tech savvy, willing to dig up a comment or information from your past to distort, thereby âjustifyingâ their actions.
If youâve spent any time online, youâve probably run across trolls even if you didnât know the term. You may have tried to reason with them, be nice to them or virtually shout back at them. Donât bother. Youâre more likely to win an argument with a tree than you are with a troll.
What trolls need
In order to attack others, trolls need a victim pool and a public forum of some kind, and they usually want an audience.This means trolls gravitate to anywhere online users interact - like blog sites, social networks, multiplayer games, discussion forums, hobby sites and so on. They are found on sites that primarily target adults like news sites, company sites and forums, and they thrive on sites with lots of kids and teens who may be particularly vulnerable to attack - unless there is a strong moderator that can control their behavior or kick them off a site.
Tackling trolls
While you canât control whether you will become a trollâs target, you can decide if you will make yourself a trollâs victim. Knowing that the trollâs goal is to embarrass, humiliate, ridicule, demean and shame you, you have a choice about how you are going to react.You can either be devastated, angry, or whatever emotion they want you to feel, or you can look at the attack for what it is â a mean person being mean. It isnât personal if you refuse to take it personally. Recognize that the troll is the one with the problem. If the attack is directed at you exclusively, via email or as a comment on your site, document it so you can report the abuse, then delete and forget it.
If the attack is directed at you on a public site, understand that the trollâs âaudienceâ â other participants in the conversation such as forum members, social network contacts or other gamers â can see the trollâs behavior as the vicious attack it is. We all learned at an early age how to identify mean, nasty people.
Call out their behavior. Many people recommend you simply ignore trolls and donât respond in any way, but this gives the trolls even more power as it gives them the power to silence you. Instead, ignore the troll but address the problem with the âaudienceâ in a matter of fact way. Do NOT respond in a manner that stoops to the trollâs level or you risk two outcomes: 1) Feeding the troll and engaging in an unwinnable argument that will escalate, or 2) having the âaudienceâ see you as another irritant/troll rather than as the balanced, decent and aggrieved party.
Frame your comment to the group along the lines of âWow. Looks like weâve got a troll trying to attack people on this site, derail meaningful dialog and control our conversation. I suggest that this forum doesnât give them that power by ignoring their unproductive comments and continuing our discussion, or even take a moment to create a guideline for how we want to deal with trolls.â
Understand that where thereâs one troll, there may be many more waiting to pounce once the first troll has started. All too frequently, you see cases where others pile on with additional nasty comments. This just means there may be more than one troll that needs ignoring.
Alert the site moderator if there is one, but even on unmediated sites there is usually a âreport abuseâ feature. Sometimes this is found directly on the discussion page, other times â like with Facebook â you first go to the help center using the help link at the bottom of the page, then select âreport abuse,â and file a bullying report.
Take time for self-care
It is fairly easy to understand that the troll is the person with the problem, but that doesnât mean itâs easy to let vicious comments roll off if your âTeflonâ layer isnât thick enough. Even journalists, politicians and movie stars who have had years in the media spotlight where troll-attacks are everyday events sometimes feel the sting of a particularly nasty interaction.So take time for self-care and reach out in ways that the troll cannot influence the people who love and support you. People who will tell you â repeatedly if needed â that the comments arenât true, that youâre wonderful and that the troll is just a troll, not a reflection of you."
LadyEmeraude
on vacation, back in September.
*AN EXCELLENT READ*
You Can't Win an Argument with an Internet Troll, So What Can You Do? > https://www.webroot.com/us/en/resources/tips-articles/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll
"There are trolls online. Not the fairy tale kind that sits under bridges: weâre talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they possibly can.
Trolls agitate to start fights between friends or strangers; they torment those struggling with illnesses or with the loss of a loved one, people unsure of their identity or their looks, or any other weakness a troll can find. They disrupt forums with off-topic comments, brag nonstop about themselves, ridicule the thoughts of others or insert controversial comments to disrupt conversations.
Trolls spread lies, deceive and cause damage, and they enjoy every minute they can make someone else miserable. They may be obnoxious teens, but more often than not theyâre seemingly ânormalâ adults who use internet anonymity to shed their veneer of decency and show their ugly selves. Trolls are basically cyberbullies on steroids â cowards afraid to show their face but nastier and more dedicated than garden-variety bullies. They are often fairly tech savvy, willing to dig up a comment or information from your past to distort, thereby âjustifyingâ their actions.
If youâve spent any time online, youâve probably run across trolls even if you didnât know the term. You may have tried to reason with them, be nice to them or virtually shout back at them. Donât bother. Youâre more likely to win an argument with a tree than you are with a troll.
What trolls need
In order to attack others, trolls need a victim pool and a public forum of some kind, and they usually want an audience.
This means trolls gravitate to anywhere online users interact - like blog sites, social networks, multiplayer games, discussion forums, hobby sites and so on. They are found on sites that primarily target adults like news sites, company sites and forums, and they thrive on sites with lots of kids and teens who may be particularly vulnerable to attack - unless there is a strong moderator that can control their behavior or kick them off a site.
Tackling trolls
While you canât control whether you will become a trollâs target, you can decide if you will make yourself a trollâs victim. Knowing that the trollâs goal is to embarrass, humiliate, ridicule, demean and shame you, you have a choice about how you are going to react.
You can either be devastated, angry, or whatever emotion they want you to feel, or you can look at the attack for what it is â a mean person being mean. It isnât personal if you refuse to take it personally. Recognize that the troll is the one with the problem. If the attack is directed at you exclusively, via email or as a comment on your site, document it so you can report the abuse, then delete and forget it.
If the attack is directed at you on a public site, understand that the trollâs âaudienceâ â other participants in the conversation such as forum members, social network contacts or other gamers â can see the trollâs behavior as the vicious attack it is. We all learned at an early age how to identify mean, nasty people.
Call out their behavior. Many people recommend you simply ignore trolls and donât respond in any way, but this gives the trolls even more power as it gives them the power to silence you. Instead, ignore the troll but address the problem with the âaudienceâ in a matter of fact way. Do NOT respond in a manner that stoops to the trollâs level or you risk two outcomes: 1) Feeding the troll and engaging in an unwinnable argument that will escalate, or 2) having the âaudienceâ see you as another irritant/troll rather than as the balanced, decent and aggrieved party.
Frame your comment to the group along the lines of âWow. Looks like weâve got a troll trying to attack people on this site, derail meaningful dialog and control our conversation. I suggest that this forum doesnât give them that power by ignoring their unproductive comments and continuing our discussion, or even take a moment to create a guideline for how we want to deal with trolls.â
Understand that where thereâs one troll, there may be many more waiting to pounce once the first troll has started. All too frequently, you see cases where others pile on with additional nasty comments. This just means there may be more than one troll that needs ignoring.
Alert the site moderator if there is one, but even on unmediated sites there is usually a âreport abuseâ feature. Sometimes this is found directly on the discussion page, other times â like with Facebook â you first go to the help center using the help link at the bottom of the page, then select âreport abuse,â and file a bullying report.
Take time for self-care
It is fairly easy to understand that the troll is the person with the problem, but that doesnât mean itâs easy to let vicious comments roll off if your âTeflonâ layer isnât thick enough. Even journalists, politicians and movie stars who have had years in the media spotlight where troll-attacks are everyday events sometimes feel the sting of a particularly nasty interaction.
So take time for self-care and reach out in ways that the troll cannot influence the people who love and support you. People who will tell you â repeatedly if needed â that the comments arenât true, that youâre wonderful and that the troll is just a troll, not a reflection of you."
FastTrax
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True. Trolls are vile enough but some forums of dubious distinction protect them to sensationalize the site thus raising ratings then the advertisement marketers come a callin.
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FastTrax
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Fer sure Pinky. This is Gary O's world, we just live in it. He is the HGIC...............................lol.
There are a lot of people who are unable to form close relationships and proper friendships. They are referred to as 'inadequate personalities'. Such folk are basically jealous of everyone and get satisfaction from upsetting people. It makes them feel important. They crave attention and reaction. I know it's hard to ignore, but that is the best response.
Also, on a site like this where all posts are public, others can see very well what is happening. There are certain people I don't bother with because I know it's just a waste of time and will get an unpleasant response no matter what I say.
Also, on a site like this where all posts are public, others can see very well what is happening. There are certain people I don't bother with because I know it's just a waste of time and will get an unpleasant response no matter what I say.
Tish
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When it comes to Keyboard heroes, I totally ignore them.
Troller is looking for a response...ANY response and he will chum the waters with complaints, insults, compliments, and inflammatory tidbits hoping that someone...ANYONE will take the bait. Generally quite harmless - practices a form of catch and release. Nonetheless, he can upset the delicate ecology of a discussion forum. Once a forum becomes aware of his presence, however, all feeding activity ceases and Troller must move on to more promising waters.
