How do you feel about warrant less ability to track your every move

I read online that some guy won $15,000 from Google in a lawsuit as their googlemaps camera captured a nude image of him outside. So I don't know anything else. Walking to the mail box? Watering the grass?
 

Wombat said:
Surely no one needs a warrant to film anybody in a public space?
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If you pay to attend a televised sporting event in Australia, you agree that in return for seeing the event in person, you can be shown on the tv broadcast as a part of the crowd. That fact is made VERY clear, when you purchase the tickets, either online or at the event gates. Just one example of how public space does not hold any expectation of "Privacy".

For a number of years here in Toronto I was a licensed Private Investigator, and I used a video camera frequently, to document the actions of persons who were under investigation. The rules in Canada are quite clear about what can be filmed or recorded in "Public Places". The short form answer here is....If the camera person is on public property they can video anything that their eye can see, from that position. If I was seated in my vehicle, parked on a public street, I could film anyone or anything, that I could see from my vantage point. JIMB.
 
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In this area they are putting a big push on to slow drivers in school zones, stopping for school buses, etc…

The new system snaps a picture and issues a ticket based on information from your license plate.

Right now we are in a sixty day test period where a notice is issued without a ticket or fine.

So far this week I’ve received two notices.

I’m sure that the notices were well deserved and I really need to be more mindful of slowing to 20 mph in school zones. Apparently they give a generous 11 mile per hour leeway or 31mph before it triggers the system. It was easy with my old hooptie but it will take some serious behavior modification with my new little car.

All in all it’s a good program if it makes us take a look at our behavior.

I am curious as to how many thousands of notices have been issued since the program went into effect. 🤔
 
Aunt Bea said:
In this area they are putting a big push on to slow drivers in school zones, stopping for school buses, etc…

The new system snaps a picture and issues a ticket based on information from your license plate.

Right now we are in a sixty day test period where a notice is issued without a ticket or fine.

So far this week I’ve received two notices.
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The US is behind the curve. These camera's and systems were introduced in 1992 in the UK and have been used extensively. They have developed too, so they now can do face recognition on the driver.
 
Has anyone here watched a TV series called "Person of Interest"? The premis of the programme was that the Gov't has everyone under surveillance 24hrs a day, every day. The AI attached to the cameras then picked out people who it thought would be involved in an 'incident' during the next 24hrs, and the two heroes of the programme then set about stopping the 'incident' from taking place.

This was shown back in 2012 - 2014, and is nearly 15yrs old. During that time, what seemed to be just a little far fetched at the time must now be the norm for anyone who doesn't live in rural Africa, and it wouldn't surprise me if satellites could even track individuals there as well.

So is it a good thing or a bad thing? Well, just a couple of days ago I got sent to Facebook jail for some reason, but when I tried to appeal my suspension I got the following dialog box on my screen.

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So far I've not continued with their request, as I think the reasons for it are, at the very least, quite nefarious, given the current discussion about being watched.

What do you think you would do if the same thing happened to you?
 
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Facebook didn't want me when I tried signing up. I was willing to give them an email address but not a phone number - so, they set up the account, but it didn't work, then they closed it. As you must know, I was totally devastated. :ROFLMAO:

On the broader subject of the abilities to track our every move:
I think we're on cameras just about everywhere we go anyway these days. I see a lot of houses in my neighborhood with cameras, including my own. It doesn't bother me. When in public, I'm not doing anything that would matter if it's recorded.
 
I remember a Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theories episode where he spoke with a woman in a little town where virtually no crime takes place. She wondered why they would need the cameras they had installed around the town. He talked about how (eg) if you were crossing the border and they were checking licenses, they have equipment that can actually scan your license while you are several cars away from the booth.

I know that cameras in our area catch those who run red lights. My husband got a ticket for allegedly going through a toll booth without paying. They sent him a picture of his car and license plate. What actually happened was he dropped one of the coins on the ground and didn't want to get out to look for it because of the line behind him. He had chucked in all the change we had. I'm sure many of those cameras also capture crimes being committed.
 
BJintheUK said:
Well, just a couple of days ago I got sent to Facebook jail for some reason, but when I tried to appeal my suspension I got the following dialog box on my screen.

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So far I've not continued with their request, as I think the reasons for it are, at the very least, quite nefarious, given the current discussion about being watched.

What do you think you would do if the same thing happened to you?
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That did happen to me. I was not pleased and did not sign up for FB. They say they will erase the data immediately after they approve you to join. I am 100% sure they are lying and will use the data in some way that profits them. Meanwhile, I will look up the person I was interested in by using a household member's account.
 
Most of us are already tracked whenever we spend or withdraw cash from an ATM machine. Those so called "Loyalty" cards that retailers issue, if you think that they are a reward, believe me, you couldn't be more wrong. Loyalty cards, credit & debit cards, electronic payment by phone, watch or any fancy gizmo are all tracked and profiled. They are so detailed that they make Big Brother look small by comparison.
Want to remain anonymous? Pay in cash and wear a mask
 
horseless carriage said:
Most of us are already tracked whenever we spend or withdraw cash from an ATM machine. Those so called "Loyalty" cards that retailers issue, if you think that they are a reward, believe me, you couldn't be more wrong. Loyalty cards, credit & debit cards, electronic payment by phone, watch or any fancy gizmo are all tracked and profiled. They are so detailed that they make Big Brother look small by comparison.
Want to remain anonymous? Pay in cash and wear a mask
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I think the biggest delusion right now is that some people think they have a choice about being tracked. We really don't. It's inevitable, whether one likes it or not. As is the eventual death of cash. Increasingly our lives are guided by ever improving algorithms, analysis of our behaviors, and convenience.

We won't fight our way to surveillance, we'll stroll into it. In fact we have already done so, as you allude to. As the older generation, we're the most likely to dislike all of this, but we're slowly dying off, and a new normal is taking place.

Digital ID's have long been a hot topic in the UK. I noted that this week the Prime Minister said we need them in order to manage illegal immigration. Again, I see it as inevitable. How can we deny these things in a digital world?
 

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