How does anyone know if a woman's accusations of sexual abuse are true?

fuzzybuddy said:
Rose65 brings up a point. How does anyone know if a woman's accusations of sexual abuse are true? As a guy, I know that at any time, there could be a knock on the door, and it's the cops hauling me in for an alleged sex crime- based solely on a woman's accusations.
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you don't know, and that's a terrible thing...but in the instance that Rose was talking about these events happened on a TV studio floor during recording of the shows.. and were witnessed by many people..
 
My brother was married to a woman (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) who used sexual accusations when angry. He had a porn addiction. When she initially found out, she took her revenge by coaching my then three year old niece to tell the doctor that "Daddy hurt me down there" and that took a couple of months for CPS to investigate and find false (helped that the pediatrician didn't buy the story). Learned from that experience that it's not uncommon for a certain type of vengeful woman to weaponize CPS when angry at fathers.

They eventually went to therapy and stayed together; male therapist told my brother that the marriage would end if he ever got back into porn. About seven years later, my brother relapsed with porn and she accused him of raping her then stalking her after he moved out. This time they did divorce and the judge didn't buy the story. I think that people in CPS and the court system have seen enough NPD to catch on quickly to their games.
 
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AnnieA said:
My brother was married to a woman (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) who used sexual accusations when angry. He had a porn addiction. When she initially found out, she took her revenge by coaching my then three year old niece to tell the doctor that "Daddy hurt me down there" and that took a couple of months for CPS to investigate and find false (helped that the pediatrician didn't buy the story). Learned from that experience that it's not uncommon for a certain type of vengeful woman to weaponize CPS when angry at fathers.

They eventually went to therapy and stayed together; male therapist told my brother that the marriage would end if he ever got back into porn. About seven years later, my brother relapsed with porn and she accused him of raping her then stalking her after he moved out. This time they did divorce and the judge didn't buy the story. I think that people in CPS and the court system have seen enough NPD to see right through them.
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That's terrible. ! I have to say someone would only have to falsely accuse me ONCE of sexually assaulting a child.. much less my own child.. and I would walk away never to look back or have anything to do with that person ever again..much less give them a chance to do it to me again!
 
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hollydolly said:
That's terrible. ! I have to say someone would only have to falsely accuse me ONCE of sexually assaulting a child.. much less my own childd.. and I would walk away never to look back or have anything to do with that person ever again..much less give them a chance to do it to me again!
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A lot of our family agree! They did have a three and four year old (four yo with autism) and my brother loved her blindly. I think he would've stayed with her even after the second incident had she not already found someone else ...part of the motivation for the second accusation. Truly pathological narcissists (NPD) can lock in a romantic partner with mind games and she was as much an addiction to him as porn.

He eventually did inpatient rehab for a month that focused on both the long-term toxic marriage and the porn addiction. He has been dating a wonderful woman for the past few years and I think he's ready to try marriage again.
 
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Murrmurr said:
But it doesn't vary in courts. (ideally)
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The McMartin pre-school case sticks in my mind, used to live in Manhattan Beach, but more to the point because it drag out for over 7 years and 13 million dollars spent prosecuting the case. Totally destroyed the business and the McMartin family. Lord knows what the impact was on the poor children who were pressured to say what the parents and social services people wanted to hear.
 
It really saddens and frustrates me when women lie about being molested. It goes without saying that it makes it so much harder on genuine victims. who are then usually accused of lying or provoking the alleged abuse.

Years ago, my twelve year old daughter was practicing basketball at the local Y. A sixteen year old lured her into an empty racket ball room and proceeded to attempt rape. She got away from him and ran down to the lobby. She was so upset that the staff called me and told me that someone had 'put their hands on her.' Naturally I saw red. I drove down to get her and called the police. Later, while taking to a detective about it, he actually asked me what my daughter was wearing. As if child molesters need to be provoked by a special outfit. I verbally tore him a new one.
 
Isn't Porn some kind of Pathetic Mind games.

I always adore the ladies with the miniskirts but the children going Jr. high in see thru short shorts, rings in their lips and navels, Tops that expose most of the lower tummy areas, Stretchy Stuff that leaves not much to imagination, fake or real tattoos, is just too much. What were the parents thinking. 40-year-old teachers dating 18 year old grads?
 
If a woman claims rape, a rape kit can be performed by a physician. If he notes any abrasions, bleeding or tearing inside the walls of the ******, that evidence carries a lot of weight in court. The kit also examines the victim for anal penetration.
 
Nathan said:
The McMartin pre-school case sticks in my mind, used to live in Manhattan Beach, but more to the point because it drag out for over 7 years and 13 million dollars spent prosecuting the case. Totally destroyed the business and the McMartin family. Lord knows what the impact was on the poor children who were pressured to say what the parents and social services people wanted to hear.
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I remember that. What a mess that was.

One thing child care centers and agencies like CPS learned from that case is that children under age 9 are particularly susceptible to forming false memories, and that, with very few exceptions, they'll give false answers to leading questions from adults they like and authority figures they fear.

After the McMartin case, some states (maybe most, or all?) stopped allowing children under a certain age to be questioned by CPS, investigators, police, attorneys, etc, about abuse, especially. And, as you can imagine, there are countless cases where that didn't go well at all for the children involved.

And in Calif, using dolls and other representative toys during that kind of questioning can only be done by people with a specific type of certification as well as a degree in child psychology and development. (Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the standards have been lowered due to a shortage of that type of expert.)
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Rose65 brings up a point. How does anyone know if a woman's accusations of sexual abuse are true? As a guy, I know that at any time, there could be a knock on the door, and it's the cops hauling me in for an alleged sex crime- based solely on a woman's accusations.
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That’s true in all sorts of things, anyone is free to file a complaint or a lawsuit against any of us for
any reason.

The sad thing is that most of us are willing to rush to judgment before there are any facts to support the allegations.
 
Aunt Bea said:
That’s true in all sorts of things, anyone is free to file a complaint or a lawsuit against any of us for
any reason.

The sad thing is that most of us are willing to rush to judgment before there are any facts to support the allegations.
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I have seen recent cases here in Canada that go back DECADES. A wealthy man who is now in his 90's, has been charged with sexual assault that supposedly took place in 1978. Forty six years later, some woman decides that she has a case? There needs to be a clear "cut off point " for laying charges. The man I am talking about just happens to be one of the wealthiest people in Canada, Frank Stronach, who built Magna International into one of the largest automotive parts suppliers in the world. JIM.
 
Where I live the local paper has 3 or 4 sexual assault stories everyday. I think that everyone is sexually assaulting everyone else. It's got to the point that I no longer even look at these stories. Ditto: for that Middle East Jewish-Arab war. Same old thing since 1948 or so and nothing new! These wars will just go on and on long after I'm dead. It's just too good a business for the politicians and the gun manufacturers.
 
In my opinion, women who falsely claim to have been sexually abused themselves are a minority. I read however, that a lot of mothers try to play the "he's abusing the child"-card to avoid fathers visiting or getting custody of children, to the extent that they now advise mothers whose children are *actually* being abused by their fathers to not bring that up during divorce proceedings...

And how do you know? In some cases, if a check by the hospital has been done, there could be evidence. In other cases, you'd only have the victim's word. I would say that sexual abuse is still underreported rather than overreported by the victims.
 
AnnieA said:
My brother was married to a woman (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) who used sexual accusations when angry. He had a porn addiction. When she initially found out, she took her revenge by coaching my then three year old niece to tell the doctor that "Daddy hurt me down there" and that took a couple of months for CPS to investigate and find false (helped that the pediatrician didn't buy the story). Learned from that experience that it's not uncommon for a certain type of vengeful woman to weaponize CPS when angry at fathers.

They eventually went to therapy and stayed together; male therapist told my brother that the marriage would end if he ever got back into porn. About seven years later, my brother relapsed with porn and she accused him of raping her then stalking her after he moved out. This time they did divorce and the judge didn't buy the story. I think that people in CPS and the court system have seen enough NPD to catch on quickly to their games.
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That's terrible, and women who make false accusations should be held accountable and not just a slap on the wrist. Equal prison time for rape. 10-15 years would lower these accusations.
 
Packerjohn said:
Where I live the local paper has 3 or 4 sexual assault stories everyday. I think that everyone is sexually assaulting everyone else. It's got to the point that I no longer even look at these stories. Ditto: for that Middle East Jewish-Arab war. Same old thing since 1948 or so and nothing new! These wars will just go on and on long after I'm dead. It's just too good a business for the politicians and the gun manufacturers.
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Same here, I don't pay them any attention anymore, and starting not to believe most of them.
 
Aunt Bea said:
That’s true in all sorts of things, anyone is free to file a complaint or a lawsuit against any of us for
any reason.

The sad thing is that most of us are willing to rush to judgment before there are any facts to support the allegations.
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Yes, like Justin Bieber. He was accused and had proof he wasn't even in the same building at the time. I believe I read somewhere that Gloria Allred was ready to jump all over that.
 
My wife and I were getting groceries. I asked an employee if the tattoo on her arm was new.....I did not touch her but she went to her supervisor and claimed I touched her inappropriately. I was devastated by her accusation, and thought it best not to go into the store again for a while. Finally my wife and I returned to the store for groceries and I got some dirty looks from several employees. I spoke to the manager pointing out the one's giving me a hard time, now I don't speak to anyone while I shop for groceries and we buy our groceries through electronic checkout so I don't have to speak to anyone on a register.

It is sad that someone mistook my friendly behavior and turned it into a perverted act of inappropriate touching. It really shook me up to be accused of such degradation.
 
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