How to control Rioters

AZ Jim said:
I'll piss friends all off with my opinion, but here goes. I don't believe that Momma was wrong in her actions. She loves her son enough to try and let him know in language he understands he is wrong and must stop. If more Moms took that kind of action there would be less black felons in our prisons. Now, the police. Sure, there are some bad cops but 99% are good guys just doing a thankless job. If you don't like cops, next time you need one...call a rioter instead! BTW Pigs have four legs, not two.
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Well said, Jim.
 

Cookie said:
Why am I not surprised that there was a riot after the killing, if there hadn't been one I would have been very very surprised. It seems like the only card left to play and maybe this time it will wake up the government to put the blame where it belongs, on the police officers who are killing people indiscriminately and maybe something can be done about it. It happens here too. The police have become like Nazi SS troops who seem to enjoy brutality. They aren't called pigs for nothing and I believe in the UK they are affectionately called 'the filth'. They aren't all bad and nasty, but too many of them are. What is wrong with these cops that kill?
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I agree Cookie, they have to address why these protests, whether peaceful or violent are taking place, and no one can deny that behavior by certain police officers over the years has been less than admirable, and many times needlessly deadly. They need to stop training them in the academy to be in the mindset that they are soldiers or warriors in a war zone. They are hired to protect and serve the public, and nothing more.

When they stopped treating citizens with due respect, and assuming everyone was guilty until proven innocent, is when the tables turned, IMO. This is America, we don't need government police forces ruffing us up like we're all dangerous criminals or terrorists. Would I be cooperative with a cop if he pulled me over for something? Yes. Do I resent the fact that now if I make any moves to get papers out of my glove compartment or don't keep both of my hands on the wheel, I might get my head blown off by a trigger happy buckaroo? Yes.

As you've said, and many here agree, there are still many good officers on the police force, ones who are repulsed by the actions of the bad cops. It seems like the bad ones have gotten a free pass lately to kill and ask questions later, they know the department's internal "investigations" will see to it that they are not charged with murder. America is becoming a police state, and I think it stinks.
 
I very much agree with what you said so well, SeaBreeze. Here in Toronto we are also very wary of our police force, as young men are all too often being shot and killed by the police.
 
In a small city north of where I live, an RCMP officer still was on the payroll, even after being convicted of wrongfully shooting a man in the neck. Fortunately the man survived. The officer's own partner testified against him. After conviction he was never jailed. He received a reprimand and was transferred an hour away from his former posting. A civilian would have gone to jail. After a considerable uproar, crown is going to try him again. Perhaps justice will be served this time around. I doubt it. Please excuse my less than literate la gauge today, sinus medicine is making me drowsy. Lol.
 
Doctors have to carry malpractice insurance to cover them for any of their "Mistakes"... Perhaps Cops should be required to do so also.. seems like it would save these cities a bundle in reparations..
 
AZ Jim said:
I'll piss friends all off with my opinion, but here goes. I don't believe that Momma was wrong in her actions. She loves her son enough to try and let him know in language he understands he is wrong and must stop. If more Moms took that kind of action there would be less black felons in our prisons. Now, the police. Sure, there are some bad cops but 99% are good guys just doing a thankless job. If you don't like cops, next time you need one...call a rioter instead! BTW Pigs have four legs, not two.
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Wow, Jim, something surprizing, I agree with you on this!

I am sure at least 95% of police try really hard to do a good job at a very thankless and dangerous job. My grandson was an MP in the army, he went to police academy after he got out and graduated. I am so glad he decided it was not a career he wanted.
 
AZ Jim said:
I'll piss friends all off with my opinion, but here goes. I don't believe that Momma was wrong in her actions. She loves her son enough to try and let him know in language he understands he is wrong and must stop. If more Moms took that kind of action there would be less black felons in our prisons. Now, the police. Sure, there are some bad cops but 99% are good guys just doing a thankless job. If you don't like cops, next time you need one...call a rioter instead! BTW Pigs have four legs, not two.
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Pissed, no, disappointed, sure, but only with what I highlighted, the prisons rolls are filled with more than just black youth, to single out blacks, yes, I have a problem with that statement. Where I am, all the kids that I see needing better guidance aren't black kids, but, still, I wouldn't have first chosen to see their color just to see kids period, who are needing better leadership, something sorely missing in the lives of a lot of youth today. I realize there are high numbers of black males in the system, but, there are more reasons for that just than, more committing crimes and acting out. Survice to say, one of the reasons there is so much anger, justified or not.

As far as the police, I have respect for many police, I've mentioned in the past, I've worked with some wonderful law enforcement, there have been some that have been there for me more than once when I've needed them and I've had some good friendships with those I worked along with in the past as well as have family in service in one way or another. But, saying that, there has been a rise in the number of trigger happy, violent, unprofessional types coming to the forefront from the past and newly on the force and people, no matter the hue of their skin are tired of it.

I absolutely don't condone the violence that has been done in Baltimore or anywhere else, but, I do understand the anger behind the protest by those who are doing so non-violently and who others in those communities are fighting to protect and help some of those law officers are doing, by guarding some stores and conversing civilly with the officers, but the press aren't showing because, they as with many only want to believe the people are a violent worthless people as a whole. Not including you in that system of belief Jim, but, people really need to understand, at some point, you keep pushing, people are going to push back eventually, how that manifest itself isn't always going to be so polite or as you and I think it should be.

Not just is it that most officers are good people, most people today, many people as a whole want justice for all the people, but, it only takes a few to keep stirring the pot to constantly keep us all nipping at each other.


There are times when a certain amount of force is necessary, but, really, tell me, this is necessary.

The woman was belligerent, but fast forward to the 1:50 listen to what was said in the report and see a clearer view of what was done.


Here's another fun video

 
April, since this was a black mom and son I dedicated my comment to black felons. I agree with you about racial population being made up of all races in prison. I probably should have stated it better.
 
AZ Jim said:
April, since this was a black mom and son I dedicated my comment to black felons. I agree with you about racial population being made up of all races in prison. I probably should have stated it better.
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:thankyou::bighug: As always, I know where your heart is, but, you know some will latch on to that and take it as ammo to say hallelujah, if you know what I mean.
 
It seems that the mother going after son is the problem and the solution. She is a single mother of six, the problem, and taking control of her son, the solution...
 
Ralphy1 said:
You don't think that so many black women having children without fathers is a problem?
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NO... the PROBLEM is lack of education and employment opportunities. You are putting the cart before the horse, as YOUR view of the problem would not exist if MY view of the problem was rectified, at least not in the numbers it is now. To think otherwise is to imply that an entire race is in some way deficient in the areas of self control or judgment or is simply oversexed. , which is extremely racist.. I'm not sure why you cannot see that.... but... whatever..
 
Attempts to rectify the problem, remember LBJ's Great Society? Not to mention recent housing and educational programs, affirmative action, etc.,etc.....
 
Ralphy1 said:
Attempts to rectify the problem, remember LBJ's Great Society? Not to mention recent housing and educational programs, affirmative action, etc.,etc.....
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So what are you saying Ralphy? It is not possible to help Blacks? Because this is what it sounds like..

The way to help EVERYONE is to stop the bastardization of our legislative system. TO STOP the ability of Corporations to move jobs out of the country. and to stop the cuts to public education.. period.. It is destroying our country.. and the most vulnerable are the first to suffer. It WILL however eventually hurt everyone... not just Blacks, as all the wealthy and opportunity is continually shifted to the top.
 
The breakdown of the black nuclear family in the inner city is the Achille's Heel of this country. The problem has eluded a solution for generations...
 

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