Hypothetically how does life prepare us? To what means are we to be prepared?

Irwin said:
How does one accept the fact that they're such a piece of crap that even their own parents couldn't love them? That's pretty hard to overcome. It's possible, but not easy.
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if you believe you are a piece of crap then according to your belief you are a piece a crap. Think of yourself differently than a piece of crap and you will be.
 

J.B Books said:
Go to confession.

You'll feel better. Like the weight of the world has left your shoulders.
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I am Christian meaning God dwells within me. God knows me because I am as he is me. I intercede to God on my own behalf there confession, or more precisely, communion with God is ongoing and forever present.
 
Irwin said:
How does one accept the fact that they're such a piece of crap that even their own parents couldn't love them? That's pretty hard to overcome. It's possible, but not easy.
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The piece of crap here are the parents, not the child. Whatever they said to the contrary is a lie. Gaslighting is one of the most vicious verbal weapons abusers can use on their children. It robs them of their reality. 🤗
 

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Gaer said:
It doesn't matter to me who disagrees because this is a synopsis of the teachings from Holy angels of God. Angels hold the light of God and their sacred words are indisputable.
To your second question: No. You are misinterpretating my words. One should always grow toward uncovering his full potential and full expansion of happiness. Being is the unlimited vastness of pure existence or pure consciousness. This is the field of unbounded, unlimited eternal life, pure existence, pure intelligence, the absolute.
It's occured to me this is not the correct forum to explain this. If you want more of my opinions and more of the words of angels, please read my books available on Amazon, Google Play, Barnes and Noble, etc. Thanks for asking.
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We determine who we are by interests and choices made in support of our interests and desires. To be is embracing self and life as One in spirit and form. Enlightenment, awareness and connectness are basically similar in meaning. knowing is simply the opposite of not knowing.
 
Mr. Ed said:
if you believe you are a piece of crap then according to your belief you are a piece a crap. Think of yourself differently than a piece of crap and you will be.
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I don’t believe it is that simple. For many abused people, their reality was stolen from them as children, it can take a lifetime to regain it. Some never do. Without a firm sense of reality, choices are poisoned. How do I know? Because this is a battle I still fight, and I have a huge list of coping skills, a fine education, and a spiritual perspective, yet the poison remains.
 
Phoenix said:
My favorite uncle regressed. He had grown so much beyond the strict doctrines of his youth. He came to accept that each person's way is their own way, and he honored their spirituality. Then his Parkinson's took his personal growth and he returned to the severity of the teachings of his youth. It was sad to watch. I miss what he had grown into. He taught me a lot.
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was your uncle aware of his change back to former brief?
 
Shalimar said:
I don’t believe it is that simple. For many abused people, their reality was stolen from them as children, it can take a lifetime to regain it. Some never do. Without a firm sense of reality, choices are poisoned. How do I know? Because this is a battle I still fight, and I have a huge list of coping skills, a fine education, and a spiritual perspective, yet the poison remains.
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Didn’t mean to belittle the seriousness of psychological trauma and the challenge of sorting pain from reality. It is true however, who we choose to be comes from within one self. The problem is not self, it’s all the well meaning, destructive influential people telling us who we are and what we are supposed to do with our life.

We choose what to believe.
 
Mr. Ed said:
Didn’t mean to belittle the seriousness of psychological trauma and the challenge of sorting pain from reality. It is true however, who we choose to be comes from within one self. The problem is not self, it’s all the well meaning, destructive influential people telling us who we are and what we are supposed to do with our life.

We choose what to believe.
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Only if we have the capacity to choose, sometimes we don‘t. 🤗
 
Irwin said:
How does one accept the fact that they're such a piece of crap that even their own parents couldn't love them? That's pretty hard to overcome. It's possible, but not easy.
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"You can't change how people treat you or what they say about you. All you can do is change how you react to it."– Mahatma Gandhi

"A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes." – Mahatma Gandhi

"Take it easy...Take it easy... Don't let the sound of your own wheels...Drive you crazy..." - Glenn Lewis Frey/ Jackson Browne
 
Mr. Ed said:
was your uncle aware of his change back to former brief?
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I'm not sure. I wasn't around him much at that time. I had moved out of the area. I know because of what others said.
Mr. Ed said:
in Such a case as being forced into an unkindly situation the choice of cooperation or dissidence remains in the realm of his or her decision. Sometimes the only power we have is what we choose to think.
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I agree with you. It can be a hard road to change that, but sometimes the other option leads to our own destruction. There are philosophies and ways of being that can enhance the needed changes in ways of thinking. Some of them come through the eastern philosophies. At present I am overcoming a myriad of deep and abiding losses. As in all the other times I had to do this, it's difficult. But I choose to stop feeling the way I feel. That requires ongoing practice and working on the issue, second by second, minute by minute, day by day, week by week and month by month. No one else can do it for me. I have to do it for me.

"Argue for your limitations, and they are yours." - Richard Bach
 
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Shalimar and Phoenix have opened their souls. I had no idea they were hurting so much.
Both are reaching inside to find their strength. This is admirable.
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Mr. Ed has wonderful wisdoms! I am in perfect agreement with his words and he states truths better than I could.
I think this thread can be helpful if one is open to acceptance.
 
Mr. Ed said:
in Such a case as being forced into an unkindly situation the choice of cooperation or dissidence remains in the realm of his or her decision. Sometimes the only power we have is what we choose to think.
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Again presuming one has the clarity to think. Choice does not exist without it. Trauma, ie PTSD can so fill one’s mind that one is reduced to a combination of dissociation and instinct. This hellish state can persist for months, been

there, done that, may very well experience again. To imply that an individual in that state is responsible for or capable of their own choices is not only disingenuous but cruel. 🙂
 
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Shalimar said:
Again presuming one has the clarity to think. Choice does not exist without it. Trauma, ie PTSD can so fill one’s mind that one is reduced to a combination of dissociation and instinct. This hellish state can persist for months, been

there, done that, may very well experience again. To imply that an individual in that state is responsible for or capable of their own choices is not only disingenuous but cruel. 🙂
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Shalimar, Yes, I've had to scrape myself off the floor after powerful physical and mental abuse. So I understand. This is IMO, the effect of karma and must be experienced. This is something agreed to prior to birth and something the soul has to live through.
You can't just snap your fingers and it disappears.
In my case, the Holy Angels surrounded me and filled me with compassion, understanding, forgiveness. Angels have powers beyond our comprehension. They constantly work miracles! I wish I could convince people to ask God and ask their angels for help.
Maybe they do but they also think they are talking to thin air. Maybe this duality in thought takes the sincerity out of the equasion.
The SOUL grounded in the absolute, makes the choices, not the mind, splashing around on the surface of the relative. So, anyone,in any mental state can make these choices. Angels hear and respond to cries from the soul.
If you are hurting, ask them for help. You will be FLOODED with help from unexpected ways.

As always, this is just my opinion.
 
Shalimar said:
Again presuming one has the clarity to think. Choice does not exist without it. Trauma, ie PTSD can so fill one’s mind that one is reduced to a combination of dissociation and instinct. This hellish state can persist for months, been

there, done that, may very well experience again. To imply that an individual in that state is responsible for or capable of their own choices is not only disingenuous but cruel. 🙂
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One of the most tragic issues of the past few decades is that people with trauma and mental health concerns can't get the help they really need. They get 15 to 45 minutes with a fast-tracked mental health "professional", a Rx or 2 or 3, and are sent home.
 
Murrmurr said:
One of the most tragic issues of the past few decades is that people with trauma and mental health concerns can't get the help they really need. They get 15 to 45 minutes with a fast-tracked mental health "professional", a Rx or 2 or 3, and are sent home.
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It is better in Canada, but too many still fall through the cracks. That is why more than half my practice is pro bono or barter.
 
Shalimar said:
Sadly, many in the mental health field are unwilling to accept that meds are often ineffective in treating severe trauma, merely reducing the person to a zombie like state.
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I'd wager medications have become the first protocol. It's abysmal that m/h patients are very likely to get more effective long-term 1:1 treatment if they say they will definitely not self-harm or harm others, and they had to lie. At least one Rx is imminent the very moment you say otherwise. And then, indeed, it seems your mental healthcare provider is satisfied with a job well-done.
 
Murrmurr said:
I'd wager medications have become the first protocol. It's abysmal that m/h patients are very likely to get more effective long-term 1:1 treatment if they say they will definitely not self-harm or harm others, and they had to lie. At least one Rx is imminent the very moment you say otherwise. And then, indeed, it seems your mental healthcare provider is satisfied with a job well-done.
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You are correct. Also, my own doctor firmly believes great strides have been made in finding effective Rx treatment of Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Considering the continuing horrendous suicide stats among this group, I beg to differ. Frankly, for many, a service dog and marijuana are far more effective. My boss, who is also a shrink, has prescribed me a three months supply. It helps, good addition to therapy.
 
Shalimar said:
My boss, who is also a shrink, has prescribed me a three months supply. It helps, good addition to therapy.

Why do you need medication if you are practising ... how does that work with the advice you give your clients?


Shalimar said:
Sadly, many in the mental health field are unwilling to accept that meds are often ineffective in treating severe trauma, merely reducing the person to a zombie like state.

When someone is suffering severe trauma, the priority is to help them to reach a suitable plateau of calm. They are then weaned off the medication and other types of therapy should then commence.
 
Dana said:
Shalimar said:
My boss, who is also a shrink, has prescribed me a three months supply. It helps, good addition to therapy.

Why do you need medication if you are practising ... how does that work with the advice you give your clients?


Shalimar said:
Sadly, many in the mental health field are unwilling to accept that meds are often ineffective in treating severe trauma, merely reducing the person to a zombie like state.

When someone is suffering severe trauma, the priority is to help them to reach a suitable plateau of calm. They are then weaned off the medication and other types of therapy should then commence.
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Currently, I am on at least a three month medical leave from my job due to trauma sustained through observing a vet blow his brains out in front of me. My boss, a psychiatrist, who has known me for decades, prescribed marijuana as an adjunct to the

therapy I already receive. (All of us in our office are required to see a therapist on a regular basis.) Apparently, her methods of dealing with acute trauma differ from those you suggest.

Perhaps you are unaware that even psychologists may require medication from time to time, particularly in a job which primarily deals with clients suffering from CPTSD. Hugely stressful, sometimes dangerous, and full of

goodbyes. The suicide rate amongst my vets in particular is staggering. I fail to see any conflict between any meds I might need and advice I might pass on to my clients. After any critical event, I must be cleared before I can return to work. BTW, medical and recreational marijuana are legal in Canada.
 
Shalimar said:
Currently, I am on at least a three month medical leave from my job due to trauma sustained through observing a vet blow his brains out in front of me. My boss, a psychiatrist, who has known me for decades, prescribed marijuana as an adjunct to the

therapy I already receive. (All of us in our office are required to see a therapist on a regular basis.) Apparently, her methods of dealing with acute trauma differ from those you suggest.

Perhaps you are unaware that even psychologists may require medication from time to time, particularly in a job which primarily deals with clients suffering from CPTSD. Hugely stressful, sometimes dangerous, and full of

goodbyes. The suicide rate amongst my vets in particular is staggering. I fail to see any conflict between any meds I might need and advice I might pass on to my clients. After any critical event, I must be cleared before I can return to work. BTW, medical and recreational marijuana are legal in Canada.
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Thank you for replying Shalimar. As you are aware, there is some divide between a psychiatrist (you) and a clinical psychologist (me).
Yes, both fields after a time, need therapy because of the nature of the work we do. Regular debriefings are what I am used to and medication would be the absolute last resort, unless someone is suffering severe trauma (as in your case)and this would only be in the beginning of treatment.

I totally understand now where you are coming from and sincerely hope your treatment is successful 🦋
 
Dana said:
Thank you for replying Shalimar. As you are aware, there is some divide between a psychiatrist (you) and a clinical psychologist (me).
Yes, both fields after a time, need therapy because of the nature of the work we do. Regular debriefings are what I am used to and medication would be the absolute last resort, unless someone is suffering severe trauma (as in your case)and this would only be in the beginning of treatment.

I totally understand now where you are coming from and sincerely hope your treatment is successful 🦋
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Thank you for the kind words, but I am also a psychologist. It is my boss who is a psychiatrist.
 

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