I am putting this here so hopefully it will be read.

Blessed

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I have really been suffering with great depression. I watched a movie tonight "The Whale"

It addressed so many things we have all faced, death, grief, love, loss. We have all faced these things in our life. They are scars in our hearts and minds that we can't heal. For me, I have not been able to move past these things. Those of us who have lost a spouse, even worse those who have lost a child. Those of us who have lost a relationship we valued deeply because we could never honestly discuss the situation.

Some of us have spent our lives in supporting, caring for our loved ones. I have done this many times but no one seems to even notice that you give up your life, your health, your dreams. Seems like so many just think you;' are willing to do it, they don't see that you are exhausted. Oh, they know but are still not stepping up to help. That would just mean they have to be involved.

Mind you, I am proud I did what was needed but from some family members I have been ignored, acted like it was my fault that our loved ones died. Who knows, but they all knew what was going on, they knew it was a fragile situation. Some blame me and I have been excluded by my husband's family. No longer welcome at family events, reunions, graduations, weddings. They knew my husband was terminal from day one. My MIL was there in the oncologists office when they told it was terminal, about 8 months to a year.

I did more research than you could imagine. They started on traditional chemo which was horrible and had no effect. Our saving grace was it was a slow growing cancer. I finally found a trial through the NIH. I got all his records forwarded to them and we were accepted. The trial was in Scottsdale AZ.

We spent the next two years traveling back and forth. It was a good trial and slowed everything down with very little side effects.

Meanwhile, we had a child in highschool and had to keep up with all his activities. I worked full time during the complete time, using my vacation time to go to Arizona.

Never once did his siblings step up to go with him. His Mother was also in bad health and could not go and they were not even looking after her. My husband would get home and go straight to his Mom's to take care of the yard and pool.

Though death was certain, they choose to sit back and then for some reason, beyond me, I was the bad guy. Has anyone been through that experience? It is like they were relieved it was over before they had no choice but to be involved. This was a five year long fight. My husband's Mom got so sick, they took her to the hospital on the way to my husbands funeral. So my husbands funeral was on a Sunday, the next Sunday was my MIL's funeral, So it seems they blame me for both.

Going years without talking to loved ones over some slight, true or imagined is ridiculous. I tried to heal the situation but it has not worked. There was another uproar when my son married. Only one aunt and uncle were invited. I had nothing to do with it. The kids paid for their own wedding and could not afford to invite everyone, another 60 people.

Once again, they decided it was my fault, so the mess continues, even though I told them the kids could not afford it. I had nothing to do with guest list or anything at all in the wedding. I did not go with the bride to pick out a dress, I did not plan the rehearsal dinner, I mean nothing!! This is also a great one, I have never seen the wedding pictures.

Anyway, I think this movie is a great representation of things that happen to all of us. The best decisions may or may not be made. There always misunderstandings or information with held that tears families apart. It will make you stop and think if you just have been honest things might be different. Even now, some of us may be able to recover if you can just sit down and truthfully talk about how you felt, what was really happening.

The only time I got brave enough was a trip to New Mexico for an Aunt's funeral. We had to drive to a higher elevation and it made it difficult to breathe for my husband. At the hotel, we got a call from the doctor in Arizona we were being dismissed from the trial, the drug was no longer working. We did not go to the family home the next morning. We left for the 3 hour drive back to the airport.

There was nonstop fussing when his Mom and Sister at the airport that we did not come to the house. I had all I could take, when they went to the ladies' room, I went in there and told them what was going on. Your son, your brother can't breathe at this elevation, and we got a call we have been dismissed from the trial, don't you say another word to us!!

Well, you can see I am having a bad night, you all are the only ones I have to pour out my feelings to. I pray for your grace and understanding. If this motivates any of you to mend a relationship before it is to late it will be a blessing for you!
 

Families are complicated.

All you can do is let go of the past and leave the door open for the future. 🤗
I appreciate your reply but I think we are too far gone to fix it. There is one person that leads the family dynamic, and we will never see eye to eye. They have lived their life just starting trouble within the family. I have known this person since I was 15 and they were 13. I caught on very early that they were determined to be in control. Watching them grow up, act up, they are very smart, have a masters degree but have no idea that my husband and I paid the parents mortgage for a while so they could cover college costs. Oh, the glorious 80;s, we had money but the folks needed help.
 
I've seen this same dynamic in my family and in many others.

When a family member gets sick, or too old to live alone, the person who steps up to be a caregiver gets criticised and blamed for everything. I can't believe their nerve.

It always amazes me that daughter one (it's most often a daughter) takes in mom and gives her life over to her for years, while daughter two or a son, will visit a few times a year and complain about how things are done, right up to the funeral arrangements. Then on to the choice of headstone. They should be thanking whoever went to the trouble to make arrangements.

My ex-husband was the worst. His parents were divorced and re-married and the step parents never did enough or did it all wrong.

My son was always super close to his paternal grandfather. At his funeral one of his uncles gave my son a hard time for not crying* and my son is hurt to this day over that.

*He gets his inability to cry in public from me and it has nothing at all to do with how much we love someone. The minister at my mother's funeral looked right at me in the middle of his talk and said it was "okay to cry." Way to make a bad time worse, buddy.
 
at some point...sooner than later..you must stop all this rethinking...stay away from sentimental thoughts..even things you watch that trigger your hurt...loss...
you must accept the situation...and live as if those people don't exist....
your mind is your most valuable protection from all that hurt...hugs
 
at some point...sooner than later..you must stop all this rethinking...stay away from sentimental thoughts..even things you watch that trigger your hurt...loss...
you must accept the situation...and live as if those people don't exist....
your mind is your most valuable protection from all that hurt...hugs
I agree but I was born the sensitive one, the one that always stepped up when there was illness or a problem to solve. I don't know if that if a good attribute or a poor one but it is who I am at the core.
 
@Della, I thank you so much for your reply. I was hoping this would open a door for all of us that are suffering from loss and pain. They say itis best to get these feelings out, so I have finally done it. I hope someday to have this deep conversation with loved ones that have deserted me but I don't have the courage yet.
 
Speaking about things that burden you is the first step to healing. We are here to listen and give you advice if we can.

If other people decide that it's your fault, don't believe them and quit any relations to them. They are not good for you.
I am glad I have got it out somewhere. I don't have to quit any relationship to them, that was their choice. I fully expect to get a call one day, someone is sick can I help. One of my BIL's fought prostate cancer that then spread to his brain and bones. Did the other siblings step up to take care of him, NO.
They called his exwife, so called, because she was retired and had the time to take care of him.

Yes, they went over to visit but did not do any caretaking. No changing diapers, helping bath him, giving meds. After all, they were in Hawaii and had to spend some time sightseeing and going to the beach. Learning how to surf is a very important thing when your brother is dying. She finally had to call them and say you have got to come over here and give me a break. She was exhausted to the point of being ill. They came for a whole week when she had been doing all the caretaking for months.
 
@Blessed I'm glad you wrote this out and I did read it. I'm so sorry you are feeling down. This is a horrible scenario what you have gone through.

The Scapegoat is no joke. They exist and are made by others. Through no fault of their own. I read something about the Scapegoat but I can't remember exactly how it went. In essence it said, the scape goat can leave and go away. And be rid of them. If that's physically or just emotionally. The ones who scapegoated that person remain and remain as they were.

You have been through a lot. My brother who is probably narcissistic from our childhood abuse did the similar to me with my stepfather. While I was helping here while he was hospitalized and in rehab after a fracture, my brother yelled at me from the opposite side of the U.S., told me I wasn't doing anything. I vented to him and he then wrote a letter to my stepfather telling him how bad I am and that my stepfather will be moving 3000 miles to live with him. Something he knew would never happen. He just weaponized it.

It's all easy when just one person is doing the work. They know this and in order to justify their inactivity in their own minds, they have to make you the bad person. Deep down they know they are, but they will never admit or deal with that fact. So they project that on to you.
 
@Blessed I'm glad you wrote this out and I did read it. I'm so sorry you are feeling down. This is a horrible scenario what you have gone through.

The Scapegoat is no joke. They exist and are made by others. Through no fault of their own. I read something about the Scapegoat but I can't remember exactly how it went. In essence it said, the scape goat can leave and go away. And be rid of them. If that's physically or just emotionally. The ones who scapegoated that person remain and remain as they were.

You have been through a lot. My brother who is probably narcissistic from our childhood abuse did the similar to me with my stepfather. While I was helping here while he was hospitalized and in rehab after a fracture, my brother yelled at me from the opposite side of the U.S., told me I wasn't doing anything. I vented to him and he then wrote a letter to my stepfather telling him how bad I am and that my stepfather will be moving 3000 miles to live with him. Something he knew would never happen. He just weaponized it.

It's all easy when just one person is doing the work. They know this and in order to justify their inactivity in their own minds, they have to make you the bad person. Deep down they know they are, but they will never admit or deal with that fact. So they project that on to you.
I know what you say is true but it still hurts. Believe me, if one of these people call and are in trouble they will have called the wrong number. I am done being a doormat for them. I don't get on well these days but I can still take care of myself. If the time comes I will hire in house care but I do not want to go to the nursing home. I would rather leave this world by my own choice and time.

The hardest thing I have ever done was put my Mom into care. I had her with me, in my home for 2 years but it came to the point I could not keep her safe because of dementia.
 
I know what you say is true but it still hurts. Believe me, if one of these people call and are in trouble they will have called the wrong number. I am done being a doormat for them. I don't get on well these days but I can still take care of myself. If the time comes I will hire in house care but I do not want to go to the nursing home. I would rather leave this world by my own choice and time.

The hardest thing I have ever done was put my Mom into care. I had her with me, in my home for 2 years but it came to the point I could not keep her safe because of dementia.
It is very hard and hurtful. One of the hardest things I had to deal with was realizing how bad my brother is. And what he has become. The personality disorders are terrible. But he is toxic. I feel bad for him, but I can't endure him.
 
I am so sorry this has caused you so much pain. But not everybody has the hardwire to be caring or even less a caretaker. You see this difference in “good” parents vs “bad” parents. Or marriages that seem askew. You should understand that what you have is rare and a true gift…but expecting others to be the same or give praise is perhaps not attainable. You need to praise yourself…not because those others are less than…but because you have been able to follow your heart and instinct. People like you help the others have better lives. You are great…know that and be content. The bottem line is how you feel about you…not them.
 
I was estranged from my sister and her three sons for 20 years. I was heartbroken and mourned their loss every single day of those 20 years. She died last year. I don't miss her or my nephews any more. It's like a great burden has been lifted from me. I don't have to care anymore, there is no reason to.

I wasted 20 years of my precious life missing them with all my heart. I can't get that time back. F them for hurting me so badly. F me that I couldn't handle it better. It was a WASTE, and I was stupid. Not stupid in trying hard to reconnect, which I did often with no results whatsoever; stupid for allowing it to take so much from me.
 
Your story brings to mind that no good deed goes unpunished. Ugh!! You are a good person and your husband’s family is awful for abandoning you. Remy, you have also been through hell. You are right about some families having a scapegoat.
 


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