I can not keep up with political correctness these days.

I find these threads bring out all sorts of unrelated complaints.

Many PC things I do agree with - some I do not.

I try to judge each situation on it merits rather than having a blanket for or agaisnt view.

In OP case, the names are changing to the indiginous names of the places for one football round - Doug Nicholls Round
The AFL’s annual round recognising and celebrating indigenous players and culture is named in honour of Sir Doug Nicholls.

Doesn't seem an issue to me.
 

I find that there was more give-and-take with less offense being taken when I was a kid; people generally had thicker skins back then. As someone who has worn corrective lenses since 4th grade, I got called “four eyes” a fair amount. Other kids might receive peer-assigned designations based on their weight, skin tones, nationality, religious background, and so on. We all accepted it as part of kid culture and banter. The last thing you’d want to do was let anyone know that a label had gotten under your skin, or you’d get more of it!

I was, however, brought up to respect adults, defer to them, and be courteous. I was once referred to at a restaurant as “the really polite guy” simply because I‘d say “please” and “thank you,” expressions which sadly have become less common.

Even what is commonly considered courteous may be found offensive to some. I once encountered a feminist who took offense that I held a door for her, apparently thinking such behavior inferred that I thought she was too weak or incapable of getting the door herself...but heck, I’ll hold doors for either sex, it beats slamming it in their faces, avoids duplication of effort, and is simply civility in action to me… 🤔
 
Just to let you know what hip and up on things sort of guy I am, when it became more frequent to hear, "Happy Holidays" I thought it was just modern short speak for Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. That was around the time when everything was "awesome", I only know I wasn't awed by pretty much anything at that time.

I'm of the opinion that if I got a paid day off, gift, or invited to a nice party I'm up for celebrating anyone's particular holiday.

I've never had anyone say to me that their personal pronoun was different than I what I said, or trying to correct my view on a subject. Renaming of places, yes, I have been offended. A perfectly good street was named for an outgoing mayor who cost the tax payers multiples of millions of dollars by building an under utilized new stadium, and giving the police a contract retirement package that resulted in over 50% retirement within a year after in went into effect. THAT OFFENDED ME.
 

I really like the Swallows and Amazons books by Arthur Ransome. They relate the sailing adventures of two families of children, the youngest of whom had the nickname 'Titty'. When this appeared as a film on the wokey woke BBC, her name had been changed to 'Tatty'.
The children were based on real people and I think the girl in question was called Mavis.
 
Fyrefox said:
Even what is commonly considered courteous may be found offensive to some. I once encountered a feminist who took offense that I held a door for her, apparently thinking such behavior inferred that I thought she was too weak or incapable of getting the door herself...but heck, I’ll hold doors for either sex, it beats slamming it in their faces, avoids duplication of effort, and is simply civility in action to me… 🤔
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I must be stupid since I still hold the door for women. On the other hand I never had a bad experience for doing this. Obviously most of the women I know are quite normal and not mentally insane.
 
I really love the movement toward accepting everyone as they are without trying to make people who are different feel bad about it. But, I admit to some pangs of culture shock each time I encounter a new-to-me difference and I have initial feelings of 'that's stupid, crazy, ridiculous', until I've had time to get used to it.

Sometimes I try to learn about the new unfamiliar things, and that helps so much to read the science and watch real people on YouTube giving talks about their personal experience being it.

And I try to back-fit the info with my old views which also helps, such as, in the past I was okay with the idea of masculine/feminine being a range with "normal" including 'masculine' women and 'feminine' men, so now the normal range just needs to be mentally adjusted to include endocrine systems, DNA changes, etc.

In High School I asked to take the boys vocational interest test (it had different vocations, not just stewardess, nurse, homemaker, the boys could be funeral directors, military types, engineers, etc.) and found out in the results that it had a masculinity score for the kid who takes it, why? why? the girls version didn't have anything like that. The counselor told me my masculinity score was very low but that was to be expected since I was a girl. Were they making boys feel bad when they got a low score?

A lot of the museums I've visited have started to acknowledge the original inhabitants, there was a big painting of Europeans giving Native Americans items and a sign next to the painting acknowledged that the painting was from a Euro-centric viewpoint (apparently Native Americans were not intending to 'sell' Manhattan because they considered their people as custodians of it and were thinking the settlers were going to make regular payments to be allowed to share in the abundance of the land the tribe was the custodian of).
 
I’ve made it 86 years just being me. Mom taught to say please and thank you to everyone. I still do. I even thank the person who gives me my coffee at the drive thru. It’s just so easy to do.
The other stuff, sexual preference and name changes don’t affect me at all. I think it’s stupid and just a way to say..Hey, look at me!! I’m different and you better acknowledge me. Nope, no thank you.
 
Capt Lightning said:
I really like the Swallows and Amazons books by Arthur Ransome. They relate the sailing adventures of two families of children, the youngest of whom had the nickname 'Titty'. When this appeared as a film on the wokey woke BBC, her name had been changed to 'Tatty'.
The children were based on real people and I think the girl in question was called Mavis.
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I loved those books.
 
People often knock themselves out trying to be PC. I see sentences written to use ‘themselves’ or ‘theirselves’ instead of her or him and then mentally rewrite the sentence simply, without any defined pronoun, the whole thought is there and nobody is insulted. It’s more about virtue signalling by the writer.
 
papa tiger said:
I usually hold a door for most anyone, I find others also do it for me, mostly at Auto Marts and such stuff.
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Yes, agreed.
I hold door open for anyone coming through it after me and get up to open it for people who might have difficulty doing so - parents with prams, frail elderly people, people carrying parcels etc.

It is just a common courtesy thing, not a gender thing.
 
Paladin1950 said:
Here in the states, the original idea behind Political Correctness, was simply referring to people by what they want to be called. Like Asian instead of Oriental, Native American instead of Indian. Then others started adding a lot of other things to it. Stupid things like you shouldn't say Merry Christmas since not everyone celebrates it. When I was younger, I would say Merry Christmas to elderly couples who I didn't realize was Jewish. They would say thank you to me and then wish me a Happy Hannukah, to let me know that they were Jewish. But they were never angry.
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Love this reply. Firstly, the world changes. When I was young, racism was not verbotten. I saw/heard it all the time. But over time, you never see the same kind of thing, not anymore. Another would be throwing trash in the street. Everyone just threw it in the street, it seemed. But that has changed too, it's very much looked down on now. To a large extent, so called Political Correctness is really people who struggle with the change and want things to remain as they are forever. Which is not how life works, sadly.

On top of that, the term "Political Correctness" has been hijacked by political movements to pour scorn on fellow citizens who care about things they don't. It's basically a whine from sad angry people. :D

IMO.
 
VaughanJB said:
To a large extent, so called Political Correctness is really people who struggle with the change and want things to remain as they are forever. Which is not how life works, sadly.
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Or maybe not sadly.
Fortunately some things, for example what was previously accepted racism, have changed for the better.

But otherwise, totally agree with your post.
 
Join the club Bretrick! Years ago, the term for Asians was "Oriental", I felt it was exotic and I remember beautiful women being attached to that description. I found out when someone used it during one of our marketing research studies that it was considered derogatory. John was a man in our very social group (we did studies together quite often) He said his father was Chinese (never would have guessed it) and that he (they) didn't feel the term was derogatory.

I used the term Caucasian here in one of my posts. Someone accused me of posting it as a derogatory reference which certainly was not my intent. I always thought Caucasian was the fancy way of referring to White people (the opposite of derogatory IMO). I'd never heard that it was considered such until I read that response.

Some Black people don't like the term Black (I know I didn't when it first became a thing). Others don't like African American. One who does not like the latter is Whoopi Goldberg who pointed out that she's (simply) American.
 
As I have gotten older I have had younger women open a door for me. At first I have to admit I was taken aback by it. Part of it was because it went against the social norm that I grew up with. But I think the biggest reason that I was taken aback was that while they were being polite opening the door for someone older , my vanity would not accept that I was getting older. I've gotten used to it now and just smile and thank them when it happens. And it's not just younger women who do it. I find that often younger men will "race" to the door to open it for me.

When I was younger we called older people words such as "old geezer" or "old fart". Seems the word "boomer" has now replaced those terms. I often hear the word used on YouTube videos when the younger ones are talking about people around my age or older. It can sting at times since the videos often cover tech related subjects and they assume that "boomers" have no knowledge on the subject they are talking about but then I realize that I was probably the same way when I was younger and just shrug it off.

So to bring my rambling back to the topic, I am just wondering if anyone is offended by words they hear that refer to our age group ?
 
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You know it's strange when we refer to others the same age as ourselves. I went to a retirement village to have a coffee with a friend, and I was referring to some of the residents saying, "the old dear in number 23 was wishing me a nice day", I suddenly realised she was probably the same age as myself, but we look on others differently. I've never had anyone call me "an old tart"., Yet!!
 
My body is 80, my brain is in its 30s, my emotions are all over the place. I look at "old people" and often wonder their age, and find myself comparing to them. Said another way, I find it incredible that I am that old - at least until another ache or pain rears its ugly head.
 
Mobilman44 said:
On addressing someone of whom you can't determine the "right" pronoun, just don't use one. I had this come up a number of times at a local eatery. A young waitperson appeared to be a guy, but had long red dyed hair, earrings, makeup, and a high voice. "He/she" was (is) a very nice person to us, and very competent in his/her job. Normally I would use the term "guy, miss, hon, ma'am, sir" or the like, but wasn't sure what was OK. So I just never used any.

I finally got a clue when he/she went to the men's restroom, but I still refrained from using one of those pronouns.
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Interesting you mention this. I was filling in MyChart for the new place I am going to for Physical Therapy. One question was my preferred choice of Pronoun....They/them were included in the choices.
I consider myself pretty progressive,, and have no real issue. Just impressed that medical office is willing to ask a persons preferred pronoun.
 
I am not offended by the word Boomer. I do not blame the young for asserting themselves, as we did. Life is always the same for all generations when it is their time to reach that stage. Young, middle age, old, dead..........same for all. Young are impatient. We were. Nothing changes. People rush to help me too. I love it, but @MarkinPhx I understand your discomfort.
 
What I dislike about all the "Call me by this, that or the other thing" stories is that I think they are all big distractions.

Look - homelessness is increasing. That's a real story that will harm all of society. How many cable news networks are following that as closely as protests at colleges over pronouns and restrooms?

Look - homelessness among Seniors is increasing. Newspapers and cable news don't care.

Look - millions of people have long Covid. They are disabled. So what, right? Not nearly as big a deal to the news media as the right to be trans and have your pronouns.

I'm not saying people don't have the right o establish their own sense of self, claim their pronouns and change genders if they wish, they have the RIGHT, just like I have the right to color my hair!

But if the news spent so many hours covering stories about how people, are shockingly coloring their hair AND wearing fake nails, we'd think the news is stupid, right? That's how I feel about all this trans and pronouns news - OK, OK we heard you, it's fine, now news, could you go cover some REAL news?

Example: there is a disturbing trend in dentistry now in which many dentists are overcharging patients and padding their bills but adding services of questionable need or value. In many states dental malpractice laws are very weak and the Dental Board to which you can complain is a JOKE mob. It's like a Dentist Country Club that seeks to protect its members alone, not the patients.

That is a real issue that affects 100% of people in my state. How many hours will the newspapers or TV news spend on that story - or any stories about the pitiful lack of accountability for dentist and doctors in certain states?

Zero. Zero hours will be devoted to that story. Instead, let's do a story about the price wars between Target and Walmart (which is also free advertising for both stores.). (Expletive deleted.) Dang. The news business doesn't care about people anymore. Oh well.

So, that's my beef. People are DYING. People are being RIPPED OFF by unprincipled dentists and doctors. COVER THAT.

No one's pronouns have ever hurt me, but some bad doctors and bad dentists have.
 

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