I don't Understand Anything about this Disease

Been There said:
This is what happens when an issue becomes political. Those people that are using this disease to promote their agenda should be ashamed of themselves. From the teachers’ unions, to governors all the way to the top, it’s being used to further their agenda. COVID has almost become a propaganda tool.
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I agree 100%, we need to figure out how to take politics out of this. But it will be hard, we can blame the media, politicians, and others, but the real fault for this lies with us the people. We need to do the best we can to take a close look at all available facts and make our decisions based on that, not on what some media or political personality says.

We all prefer simple answers, its natural, and that is what these people are offering us, simple answers to get out attention and support. The problem is right now this is not a simple thing, to quote Mencken:

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."
 

When reporters, either Paper, TV, or government chop and change bits of
true facts then that is also "Fake News", we had it here a few weeks ago,
somebody took a graph and cut the positive bit off and printed only the
rising number of cases, the falling numbers were 3 or 4 times the size of
the rising ones.

Same with new cases of the virus, they only state that they are people who
are not vaccinated, yet many already had one jab, so again more "Fakery".

We cannot ask for proof either, they would just "Fake" something up, to
support their figure and show that to us.

Mike.
 
Sunny said:
This is unfortunately true about some people. The problem with your statement is that you don't specify which people you are referring to.

People who refuse to leave their house, who are afraid to go within hollering distance of another human being, even after getting the vaccine, even with wearing masks, etc. fit this description. People who are constantly scrubbing themselves, their clothes, and all the surfaces in their house fit the description. I have a friend who fits this description. I told her that even though she will never catch Covid (how could she?), she has let the virus win anyway. People who are terrified of getting an extremely safe vaccine fit the description.

But what about the great majority of Americans who by now have gotten the vaccine? We are out and about, mingling, shopping, dining in restaurants, enjoying each other's company. My entire family is going together on a beach vacation in a couple of weeks. We've all been vaccinated, except for the few who are too young, and we're planning to observe realistic caution. We're bringing tons of games, sports equipment, and food, cooking delicious meals to eat at our rented house, walking to the beach (we're three houses in from the beach, even elderly me can manage that), taking joy in seeing each other and breathing the delicious salt air.

So, while nobody is "worrying about dying," we are exercising normal precautions. We are not suicidal. We all got vaccinated as soon as possible and feel blessed that we were able to do so.

If anybody does encounter a virus or two, either we will not get sick from it, or will have a mild case. And that is the whole point of the vaccine, which anyone who reads a newspaper or watches a news broadcast knows by now. It's obviously too soon to know long term effects, but we can try to make intelligent choices based on what we know now.

And what we know now is that the vaccine seems to be amazingly effective against a killer of a disease with an even worse new variant The vaccine has few or no bad side effects, for about 99% of us. That's good enough odds for me. And that is not"worrying about dying," it's the exact opposite. The people who have been vaccinated do not have to worry about the disease at all. In our family's vacation plans, the word Covid doesn't even come up!
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Yes, the vaccine is quite the miracle, ain't it? "Amazingly Effective." "99%" :ROFLMAO: In a world of your own design.
Also amusing: I've been doing everything you're doing without the vaccine. Miraculous, ain't it? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Jeff_RN/Paramedic said:
Some of those doctors still don't.
And cool.....we've both sat at the same table.....in different states. I've been a member of the FDOH for many years and I probably shouldn't have said that in an open forum.......but I'm quite "hip" to all the tricks to fudge the numbers to meet the goals of the FDOH and their parents, the CDC. It's all a really, really sophisticated game where the power players are vying for their team and there are no real rules.......only desirable "outcomes"......but the public isn't supposed to know of such things.....why, the CDC & the local DOH is there to protect them!!!.....ha!
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Very cool Jeff. We worked with Feds from various parts of the country who joined our team through the years.
The sad thing about doctors giving patients the inadequate dosages or the wrong meds entirely is that those patients paid a lot of money and many wound up just coming to our clinic to get the right treatment. When a doctor, sometimes arrogant, was reluctant to give proper treatment after I advised him of what that should be, I told him that I had to document that fact on my field record, notify the CDC and if patients decided to sue, our records were admissible in court. That usually did the trick. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Jeff_RN/Paramedic said:
Some of those doctors still don't.
And cool.....we've both sat at the same table.....in different states. I've been a member of the FDOH for many years and I probably shouldn't have said that in an open forum.......but I'm quite "hip" to all the tricks to fudge the numbers to meet the goals of the FDOH and their parents, the CDC. It's all a really, really sophisticated game where the power players are vying for their team and there are no real rules.......only desirable "outcomes"......but the public isn't supposed to know of such things.....why, the CDC & the local DOH is there to protect them!!!.....ha!
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Have you ever thought of exposing them? You seem 100% sure there are anomalies in data reporting at FDOH. The public deserves to know these things.

Just make sure you got everything covered or you're going to go from hero to zero faster than you can say DeSantis.

People need to be vigilant these days to counter fake news.

How has this escaped DeSantis? He acknowledged there's a surge in Covid cases and ,in fact, calls it "covid season."
 
Jennina said:
Have you ever thought of exposing them? You seem 100% sure there are anomalies in data reporting at FDOH. The public deserves to know these things.
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That would be quite a monumental task, as he'd have to take down the entire AMA and the powerful people
who control it, the same ones who also control all the mainstream media. Perhaps a revolution would be helpful. 😊
 
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