I Have Been Seeing War Bulletins About Russia's Intentions

Paco Dennis said:
Yes it does. It is a question about Russia's intentions. It has been stated as Putin's #1 reason that NATO quits invading countries close to it's borders. Some believe NATO doesn't invade ( which is a direct provocation for war ), but in truth it DOES invade countries like Iraq. Where was the demonizing of the US for invading Iraq under false premises lies/propaganda, killing 1000's of innocent children and civilians? Why didn't NATO send arms to the Iraqi's to defend themselves from a oil crazed administration? Did we see televised disaster caused by the thousands of atrocities to the Iraqi people? Tell me why it is ok to demonize Putin and not the US and NATO for the same thing, and knowing that the invasion of Iraq is far and away the eviler act?
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You make it sound like NATO is a place and the US is another place. I know that's not what you think, but let's pare this thing back.

Countries that join NATO all agree to defend each other if one is attacked by any external forces. Each member agrees to properly fund and maintain their military. However, over the decades, most NATO members have deferred to the big ol' USA to be the primary defender while they have underfunded in their own military.

Currently, some of those members are finally stepping up with new, much larger military budgets.
 

Wait. We haven't helped Ukraine get the planes they want so badly. Hey.They don't need no stinking pilots, they'll fly the planes themselves. So that, when they "accidently" fly over the border and bomb a couple of Russian derevnyas, we'll find ourselves in really deep s**t.
 
Murrmurr said:
America has also tried to justify a few outright military invasions of other countries.

No, there's no justification for Russia's decision to invade Ukraine.
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I see what you did there! ;) Like the invasion of a sovereign Iraq for Weapons of Mass Destruction which never existed. Four Pinocchio's/whoppers for W. By the way, I heard he's still looking for those WMD in North Texas. :(

Russia surely will get what it wants. Who is going to stop them?
 
FastTrax said:
Ukraine military committing alleged war crimes video surfaces.

www.nypost.com/2022/03/28/ukraine-to-probe-after-videos-show-alleged-russian-pows-shot/
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“We are a European army, and we do not mock our prisoners. If this turns out to be real, this is absolutely unacceptable behavior,” senior presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said.

“I would like to remind all our military, civilian and defense forces once again that the abuse of prisoners is a war crime that has no amnesty under military law and has no statute of limitations.”

But this is what can happen when you arm untrained citizens who've seen neighbors, family or friends get shot or blown up.
 
Paco Dennis said:
Yes it does. It is a question about Russia's intentions. It has been stated as Putin's #1 reason that NATO quits invading countries close to it's borders.
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Your misuse of NATO 'invasion' rather than expansion close to Russia's borders makes even less sense considering Putin himself wanted Russia to join NATO at the beginning of his first, legitimate (seemingly at the time) presidency. But even then, ego tripped him up.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule

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The Labour [George Robertson] peer recalled an early meeting with Putin, who became Russian president in 2000. “Putin said: ‘When are you going to invite us to join Nato?’ And [Robertson] said: ‘Well, we don’t invite people to join Nato, they apply to join Nato.’ And he said: ‘Well, we’re not standing in line with a lot of countries that don’t matter.’”​
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The account chimes with what Putin told the late David Frost in a BBC interview shortly before he was first inaugurated as Russian president more than 21 years ago. Putin told Frost he would not rule out joining Nato “if and when Russia’s views are taken into account as those of an equal partner”.​
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He told Frost it was hard for him to visualise Nato as an enemy. “Russia is part of the European culture. And I cannot imagine my own country in isolation from Europe and what we often call the civilised world.”​
 
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Russia announced a temporary ceasefire to allow civilians to be transferred from Mariupol to Zaporijya, starting from 10.00 Moscow time.

"Russia's Armed Forces declare - exclusively for humanitarian purposes - a ceasefire on March 31 from 10 am [0800 GMT]," Major General Mikhail Mizintsev said on Wednesday evening, according to Interfax agency. The temporary ceasefire was intended to allow civilians to flee the embattled port city on the Sea of Azov first to Berdyansk to the west and then on to Zaporizhzhia.
 
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New 23 minute video interview with a top Russia expert with contacts inside its military and security services that provides a more reliable read on what is going on within the minds of those people versus some of the nonsense Western media has been regularly releasing per their obvious agenda. At the end he does expect Putin may not survive his power.

DW.com Conflict Zone
Can Putin survive politically the war in Ukraine?

https://www.dw.com/en/can-putin-survive-politically-the-war-in-ukraine/av-61296463
 
David777 said:
New 23 minute video interview with a top Russia expert with contacts inside its military and security services that provides a more reliable read on what is going on within the minds of those people versus some of the nonsense Western media has been regularly releasing per their obvious agenda.
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Western media reports what is given to them but don't make it up. Their crime is repeating the nonsense endlessly and speculating on it, based on their persuasion. Their agenda is like any corporation--make $.
 
SeniorBen said:
DW News is a global English-language news and information program from German public international broadcaster Deutsche Welle (DW), established in summer 2015. DW is funded by the German government and is barred from broadcasting in Germany itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DW_News

Sounds like propaganda to me.
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Reads like someone that never bothered to actually view the link I provided and rather just assumed it was something they would not like listening to so instead decided to discourage other members from bothering to watch the link with terse discrediting nonsense. As though most members aren't intelligent enough to make sense out of news media themselves ala Homer Simpsons so (un-American) censoring is necessary. As I've related in the past anything people post on this little web board will have infinitesimal influence on not only the war but anything else. My reason for posting is to provide members broader balanced sources of either persuasion, one can choose to read or not, then post their thoughts pro or con.
 
It's going to be a shallow victory at this point. It took too long. Putin thought gangster mode ie intimidation with his military would've coerced a quick surrender.

In reality other than technology and numbers the Russian military hasn't been involved in a major campaign like the Gulf War or Iraq invasion. The only 'success' for his military seems to be that hypersonic missile so he might be able to sell those to puppet states or allies. He did get India to buy oil but at rock bottom prices. Most Russians won't benefit from the taken territory. What he's gained won't be the legacy that narcissist desired.
 
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John cycling said:
The US and NATO have been invading toward Russia for many, many years.
The US in particular has been building a presence in the Ukraine for quite a few years.

What would the US response be if Russia was setting up military bases in Mexico and Canada?
Consider those answers when considering how Russia is responding to the continuing invasions toward them.

WMD = weapons of mass destruction, the US excuse for the invasion of Iraq and for murdering millions of their citizens.
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I may be wrong, do correct me if I am wrong.
Putin, stated by these online videos that what he is doing is not any difference from the USA, in taking what they want.
That he is doing no difference.
OK, that's one thing.
Yet, he has been telling his people how he wants to make Russia great again.
Some online. In Russia have said that he is lying to the people, as her mother and grandmother since they were backing Putin
She said she had to say the truth to them of what she knows from an outside view of the bombings of children, women, hospitals etc. The online has been shut down to communicate by Putin to not allow his country to be able to send messages that they have to work aRound the issue
She did not want her family going to rallies to build Putin up.
As in Rome as in America have done history books.
Of course, America dud go to war, on the defensive side which means Hilter was wrong.
Now, here is Putin, a Hilter size man
As a online media stated the reason Putin needed Ukraine. Was because their land is drying up a lack of water.
Seems to me there must be more to this for snow is water...
.OK, just someone wanting to feel important.
Yet. Trump was videoed saying Ukraine is corrupt with drug addicts and criminals. And he walked away with the idea that maybe Putin wants to clean it up. So he sees it as a green light.
He sure seems like his people are doing without more than him.
As is with all the adults in each country.
I feel America sees China and Russiz ganging up on us, England, Canada and a short media video saying from Sweden, that they will be next.
Sounds familiar something like Germany based True Story from history....
 

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