I honestly believe (letter to Iran)

Love you too Jim. If you don't like others posting on this thread then don't post such totally incorrect nonsense as you have done on this thread and some others lately.
 

What is incorrect in this thread? In fact what other incorrect posts have I made? And again, what about the letter?
 
The letter was unprecedented and could be construed as treasonous. The fallout from the letter is just beginning. Due to Senators sending this letter to Iran and telling them any treaty/negotiation the State Department works out will be voided by the obstructionists, Iran has no reason to work towards an equitable settlement. Now, they will move full speed ahead to develop a nuclear weapon. Because of that, Saudi Arabia signed an agreement with South Korea to develop their own nuclear armament. SA and Iran are enemies and it is feared a nuclear Iran will attack anyone and everyone.

It is interesting that "birtherism" was brought up in this thread. That simply gives further evidence to how the right wing pundits have brainwashed their audience. It's sad when, instead of finding ways to work together for the good of the Country, we are still repeating age-old conspiracy theories in an attempt to discredit America. Lady Liberty has shed many a tear, over the past few years, as she has witnessed an all-out effort to do anything possible to see this President fail.

What are the solutions? The Citizens United SCOTUS decision must be reversed before the people of the Republic can once again participate in a fair election. Today, dollars decide who wins and loses. So, we have to work diligently in an attempt to energize our friends and neighbors to get out the vote. That is the only means through which the poople will recapture the power taken away from us.

What needs to happen in 2016?? The very best thing for this Country would be to see a moderate Republican elected POTUS and the Senate gain back a short Democratic Party majority. If Ms. Clinton is elected, we will see nothing but the same obstructionism. The airwaves will be filled with the Faux Noise conspiracies for another 4 to 8 years. The Country will become further divided. If a Republican is elected, at least they will need to find someone other than the POTUS to rant and rave about. Getting back to a Democratic majority in the Senate would provide a checks and balances whereby nonsense bills would never make it to the President's desk.

We have more funding fights coming to Congress. I believe we will have more discontent in the Middle East and will find ourselves even more involved in those issues. Russia knows we have tired of war so will make every attempt to push towards taking back some of the states that broke off when the USSR fell. South Korea will continue their craziness. We will probably see some domestic terror issues here at home.

That is too negative of a picture, when I make every attempt to stay positive. It's just difficult to remain optimistic when we see those in charge of legilative issues for our Country pull a treasonous stunt, simply to stick their finger in the eye of the POTUS.
 
Hi Grumpy, I'm uncomfortable with the notion that the only way to ever get anything accomplished is for the Democrats to forgo the Presidency so that the obstructionist Republican can be induced to return to a world where things get done. Sounds to me like Republican obstructionism is a winning game plan. They make things so objectionable that everyone agrees to give them what they want just to get them to stop being so objectionable. The idea makes me feel very grumpy.
 
AZ Jim said:
What is incorrect in this thread? In fact what other incorrect posts have I made? And again, what about the letter?
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Mostly the attitude of too many that refuse to allow other than their own ideas to be posted about. All these personal attacks do no good for the forum or the discussion. With the way our country has gone down hill and not recovered should make that pretty obvious. Why can't you folks see that the debts of this nation have gone way beyond necessary and why haven't all those dollars given the US many more jobs when it has not. This 5% unemployment we hear about are the usual where only the active looking for work get counted. As before, we need to actuallycount all the capable of working and use that as the basis for unemployment rather than just those that do try to work. We know have lots of well prepared folks working in part time jobs or just sitting at home spending any fed, state, local, charity funds they can get. Our unemployment numbers are living lies, to say the least.

Attitude of too many on this forum is incorrect even when the post is OK. The opposite party is not an enemy and before about 20 years or so back, both parties did work quite well together. But now we have a hateful bunch that think their idea of proper government is all there is and others are all stupid. Time to consider the way a democracy is supposed to work, and our Republic is designed as a democracy and as such both parties should have equal respect. Not so much of this hateful nonsense that is going around. Obama is a Democrat, far left Democrat too, but he still is our President. I don't need to like him but I do respect his job and that is what is important. Some of the children on this forum are the biggest deniers of right and respect.

Personal attacks should not be happening on this or any other forum that I belong to.
 
BobF said:
Mostly the attitude of too many that refuse to allow other than their own ideas to be posted about. All these personal attacks do no good for the forum or the discussion. With the way our country has gone down hill and not recovered should make that pretty obvious. Why can't you folks see that the debts of this nation have gone way beyond necessary and why haven't all those dollars given the US many more jobs when it has not. This 5% unemployment we hear about are the usual where only the active looking for work get counted. As before, we need to actuallycount all the capable of working and use that as the basis for unemployment rather than just those that do try to work. We know have lots of well prepared folks working in part time jobs or just sitting at home spending any fed, state, local, charity funds they can get. Our unemployment numbers are living lies, to say the least.

Attitude of too many on this forum is incorrect even when the post is OK. The opposite party is not an enemy and before about 20 years or so back, both parties did work quite well together. But now we have a hateful bunch that think their idea of proper government is all there is and others are all stupid. Time to consider the way a democracy is supposed to work, and our Republic is designed as a democracy and as such both parties should have equal respect. Not so much of this hateful nonsense that is going around. Obama is a Democrat, far left Democrat too, but he still is our President. I don't need to like him but I do respect his job and that is what is important. Some of the children on this forum are the biggest deniers of right and respect.

Personal attacks should not be happening on this or any other forum that I belong to.
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You haven't gotten any "Personal attacks" on this thread. You put down a lot of words but you say nothing. No if you call that personal, I stand by it. You said I made incorrect statements on this thread, I asked you to show me them. You did not. You could not. If anyone makes "incorrect" statements here, it is YOU. For the last time I ask again, do you support the letter your 47 republican senators sent to Iraq appropriate. You've been asked this probably half a dozen times and you have failed to answer. If you don't like my posts, ignore them and me.
 
For the 400th time Bob... Disagreeing with your political opinions is NOT..... I repeat ... NOT a personal attack... I am so sick of hearing that. If you don't want your political opinions debated, or disagreed with, don't put them out there. It's really very simple.
 
AZ Jim said:
You haven't gotten any "Personal attacks" on this thread. You put down a lot of words but you say nothing. No if you call that personal, I stand by it. You said I made incorrect statements on this thread, I asked you to show me them. You did not. You could not. If anyone makes "incorrect" statements here, it is YOU. For the last time I ask again, do you support the letter your 47 republican senators sent to Iraq appropriate. You've been asked this probably half a dozen times and you have failed to answer. If you don't like my posts, ignore them and me.
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Read above, you yourself do that so don't pretend the innocent nonsense. How does the letter become such an important thing so suddenly. I have not read it or heard about its content. Not many have. Could it be worse than Obama ignoring the Congress for 6 years? I don't think so. Some critics of the letter on TV say they should have let it publish in general rather than send it directly.

Yes I do at times put down many word and I do mean them, but then, what would a bunch of self proclaimed anti any thing but their own twisted ideas of how the government should run. And those same folks also post plenty of trash items as their proofs of correctness. How narrow minded and short sighted those folks really are.

If you notice in my posts I am not against the Democrats but I am against this non performing imitation of a President. If Obama really wants to get my attention then he should start working as the Constitution has described and do so through the Congress, as he has mostly not done in his 6 years. Even his Obama care took several hours over the vote call in order to get the Democrat Congress to vote his way. Obama has not been a true American President in his career. Far too much of his operation has been through non congressional efforts where it should be handled. We need to wait for the Supreme Court to say his ways are OK or not for the Obama care business.
 
Ameriscot said:
I already knew when Hawaii became a state and what year Obama was born in. I knew Obama's age when I voted for him the first time.
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Well then, congratulations for having known so much about out President. Maybe some others have done so too. But definitely not all of us.
 
BobF said:
Read above, you yourself do that so don't pretend the innocent nonsense. How does the letter become such an important thing so suddenly. I have not read it or heard about its content. Not many have. Could it be worse than Obama ignoring the Congress for 6 years? I don't think so. Some critics of the letter on TV say they should have let it publish in general rather than send it directly.

Yes I do at times put down many word and I do mean them, but then, what would a bunch of self proclaimed anti any thing but their own twisted ideas of how the government should run. And those same folks also post plenty of trash items as their proofs of correctness. How narrow minded and short sighted those folks really are.

If you notice in my posts I am not against the Democrats but I am against this non performing imitation of a President. If Obama really wants to get my attention then he should start working as the Constitution has described and do so through the Congress, as he has mostly not done in his 6 years. Even his Obama care took several hours over the vote call in order to get the Democrat Congress to vote his way. Obama has not been a true American President in his career. Far too much of his operation has been through non congressional efforts where it should be handled. We need to wait for the Supreme Court to say his ways are OK or not for the Obama care business.
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Pure gibberish beginning to end. And you pretend to know your politics. Amazing!
 
BobF said:
Well then, congratulations for having known so much about out President. Maybe some others have done so too. But definitely not all of us.
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I listened to one of his audiobooks on a trip to DC once. You'll likely say it's all lies though.

Besides, I normally find out a lot about a person I'm about vote for as president. Don't you?
 
AZ Jim said:
Pure gibberish beginning to end. And you pretend to know your politics. Amazing!
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The Treason Letter is all anyone has talked about for a week.. It's on all the news... both cable and mainstream.. In all the papers and all over social media to the saturation point.. and BobF hasn't heard of it? and WE even bother to debate with him? THAT'S what's so amazing.. lol!!
 
QuickSilver said:
The Treason Letter is all anyone has talked about for a week.. It's on all the news... both cable and mainstream.. In all the papers and all over social media to the saturation point.. and BobF hasn't heard of it? and WE even bother to debate with him? THAT'S what's so amazing.. lol!!
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I've said it before but I get to feeling sorry for him so I post with him but it is pointless so I'm through.
 
AZ Jim said:
I honestly believe with this latest trick (the letter) and the last eight years of obstructionist behavior, America's greatest and most damaging enemy is right here at home and it is the Republican politicians who are destroying us from within.
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It's not just Repubs Jim, but politicians of both parties that are causing our problems.
 
I have no reservation in agreeing to some extent but it was repubs who sent that treasonous letter. And the Invitation of Netanyahu was a repub program. It was the repubs Senate's McConnell who declared from day one they would not work with the President. They have obstructed in any way they could in most cases against the majority of Americans will. The get the blame from my prospective. Dems are not completely off the hook but who can blame them faced as the are with the other side of the aisle.
 
Redicuous arguments when for most of the last 6 years we have only had the Democrats controlling everything. President doing everything he can by avoiding having any debates or votes in the Congress. We have had only the House in Republican hands as the Senate with Reid refusing to do any Senate work was a Democrat and he would not bring anything up for debate if it had Republican names on it. So where has the road block been? It seems to me that it was the Democrats, not the Republicans. Hopefully we will have a more cooperative and working government, whether Democrat or Republican or mixed, after Obama is gone. One that will work with House and Senate in order to get things approved and somehow paid for. No more of this disastrous debt now being created without the Congress being involved. Talk about not American, that is just what we have now.
 
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