If there were a cancer vaccine developed.......

[Blessed]

No, he did not read it, he is not going to read or research anything anyone else has given to him. What he thinks is the only way to think, there are not other possiblities. That would just be a bullet in the chamber, it would destroy him if found information that went against his beliefs.

The only information that I can give is what I have lived. I do not hold any degrees, I am not a doctor. I am only a woman that watched her husband suffer thru cancer. That doctors said he had about 8 months and we got 5 years and 1 month due to a phase 1 clinical trial. For that, I will be forever grateful. I will not be afraid to try something new like a vaccince. May not work for me but if it can improve the possibilties for future generations, it is worth the risk for me at this stage of my life.

 

[Just Jeff]

That is quite a leap of logic. I have stated my respect for Pauling's work on chemical bonds.
That does not mean that his work on Vitamin C is equally worthy.

One of these days I might find the time to read Mein Kampf out of curiosity but I haven't so far.

Just do not be the cat that died of curiosity then.

Vitamin C was proven by hundreds or thousands of doctors historically in the usa and more particularly in Europe and clinics there, against much of what citizens in the usa 'fear' needlessly.

If and when it is learned by you how much vitamin c is needed in humans, and how much disease is from deficiency,
your tune will change totally.

 

[Just Jeff]

The only information that I can give is what I have lived.

That's right. If you had learned ever what was better to do, would you have done it so you could report better results today ?
What you posted does not look good for anyone, briefly.

 

[Just Jeff]

No, he did not read it, he is not going to read or research anything anyone else has given to him.

Did you read it?

It doesn't read like witchcraft to me.

What word in the original Bible is almost always translated witchcraft and sorcery ? hint: pharmacy.

From previous link re vitamin C effectiveness: >>
"Plus, Big Pharma and the cancer industry have worked hard to make us think alternative therapies like IVC are risky, despite the fact that vitamin C has been shown to leave healthy cells completely alone.

Even at high concentrations, there are almost no side effects from IVC."

 

[Just Jeff]

Did you read it?

It doesn't read like witchcraft to me.

Nor to billions of other people worldwide "bewitched" by pharmacy, eh ?

Okay, that's a huge leap (though true) instead of a small step. Let it rest on a back burner if God Permits, and look for healthy ways to help sick people.

 

[Just Jeff]

That is quite a leap of logic. I have stated my respect for Pauling's work on chemical bonds.
That does not mean that his work on Vitamin C is equally worthy.

One of these days I might find the time to read Mein Kampf out of curiosity but I haven't so far.

Okay, a tid bit more - did you know there once was, not too long ago, a large clinic in Australia known worldwide for curing cancer ?

Without any drugs , surgery (except when needed, not too often though), and never radiation. i.e. no poison/slash/burn methods.

The clinic was forced to close, but the website may still be available , including access to the book or part of the book "Escape the sickness industry". It used to be part of the site doctorsaredangerous , and may or may not still be readable or obtainable there.

Other clinics around the world, in Europe , usa, mexico, etc have for decades past been providing avenues of health to people who flocked to them, and just by word of mouth, and were helped.

Yes, there were also some fraudulent clinics, etc, just like there are in the usa in every state today. Don't go to nor trust the fraudulent places like I did once or more times before I found out. You might just have to go though, if there is no other way to find out first hand.

 

[Warrigal]

I did not know that. Any details?

 

[Just Jeff]

I did not know that. Any details?

I'll look, you look too if you can. "doctorsaredangerous" dot com ..... I'm checking now. ...
....
..
I THINK this is it >>

"Doctors are Dangerous: Home​

https://doctorsaredangerous.com
Legal Disclaimer: The products, articles and other content on www.doctorsaredangerous.com are not offered for the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, ..."
===============================================

The "Leagl Disclaimer" is a requirement on every source of information about known and proven cures for almost any disease,

to "protect" the false authority of pharmakeia worldwide.

 

[Just Jeff]

I did not know that. Any details?

It is not as good as it once was.... I don't think cannabis used to be a part of the site. Hopefully the rest, some or most of the information is still okay.

It used to take weeks or months to just lightly read the various links and information on the whole site , and I don't remember how long the book is.
Think of it like opening a door a little bit, to get a glimpse of what has been possible for centuries, and
hold everything lightly - not tightly - until
there's time to verify from unrelated sites and unrelated books and so forth how much of the information is good and accurate and so forth.

It is a whole new paradigm/ a whole new way of seeing after having the wool pulled over our eyes for over a century now.

And it is wonderful , the new way to look at health, not to expect sickness to win ,
and never to be scared of any sickness ever, at all.

 

[SeniorBen]

Are you being dense on purpose.
I learned the truth decades ago, while still in pharmacy.
I've known about Linus Pauling (and many of the others) for decades - the Nobel Prize Winner who proved the cure for cancer.

You don't have to believe him. Go ahead and continue believing the ones making money suppressing the truth.

Linux Pauling died of prostate cancer.

 

[Just Jeff]

Linux Pauling died of prostate cancer.

So did Maureen Salaman. oops... pancreatic cancer. After helping cure tens of thousands, maybe more, along with thousands of usa licensed doctors in the NHF over the last 60 years or more.

There are very few miracle cures/ panaceas/ that work 100% of the time for cancer. The closest to 'perfect' healer in the usa reported was 9997 out of 10,000.

yet there is a large number of remedies, even you could find, if you looked. You will find what you look for, God Willing.

 

[Blessed]

Thank you for admitting that people that said what they thought would cure cancer but in the end died of the disease. By that, you are at least saying there is no solid cure or way to prevent it. Even the most educated people still lose their lives to cancer everyday. People that have enough money to travel the world and pay for the most expensive treatments still die from cancer everyday. This is true with many life threatening diseases. These things do not care how educated, famous or rich, there is no escape. If you are the poor or if you are the rich nothing can be done. The only thing you can do is try to live a healthy, active life to prevent disease but even then genetics come into play.

 

[Warrigal]

I'll look, you look too if you can. "doctorsaredangerous" dot com ..... I'm checking now. ...
....
..
I THINK this is it >>

"Doctors are Dangerous: Home​

https://doctorsaredangerous.com
Legal Disclaimer: The products, articles and other content on www.doctorsaredangerous.com are not offered for the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, ..."
===============================================

The "Leagl Disclaimer" is a requirement on every source of information about known and proven cures for almost any disease,

to "protect" the false authority of pharmakeia worldwide.

I did look and I wasn't impressed. I think I'll rely on my doctor's advice rather than that of a former actress.

 

[Buckeye]

I just don't understand why the admin of websites allow for certified crackpots to make post after post of vague, meaningless disinformation about various health issues. The admin folks may think it drives up their post count, but I believe it drives away a lot of potential new members.

 

[Ronni]

The issue of confirmation bias is why I always ask for links, references, studies….in other words, FACTS over opinions. I am aware that confirmation bias exists, that we all fall prey to it to some degree, and therefore try always to be open to new information on ANY subject. That new information however does not and never will include someone else’s opinion when it doesn’t come with supporting fact by way of the appropriate reference materials, and especially when the opinion is obscure!not mainstream. If that’s the case, all the MORE reason for supporting facts.

From Wikipedia: Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[1] People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs. Confirmation bias cannot be eliminated, but it can be managed, for example, by education and training in critical thinking skills.

More info here

“Unfortunately, we all have confirmation bias. Even if you believe you are very open-minded and only observe the facts before coming to conclusions, it's very likely that some bias will shape your opinion in the end. It's very difficult to combat this natural tendency.

That said, if we know about confirmation bias and accept the fact that it does exist, we can make an effort to recognize it by working to be curious about opposing views and really listening to what others have to say and why. This can help us better see issues and beliefs from another perspective, though we still need to be very conscious of wading past our confirmation bias.”

 

[JustDave]

if we know about confirmation bias and accept the fact that it does exist, we can make an effort to recognize it by working to be curious about opposing views and really listening to what others have to say and why. This can help us better see issues and beliefs from another perspective, though we still need to be very conscious of wading past our confirmation bias.”

It also helps to apply logic to in information processing, if indeed one processes information at all. Also, learn some of the most commonly used logical fallacies in reaching unwarranted conclusions. But remember, logical fallacies only tell you what you cannot claim with authority. It seems like some people believe logical fallacies are techniques of debate. They are not. They are just sloppy reasoning.

I've got that joker on ignore, but he is still lowering the level of serious conversation in the forum, as well as lowering the quality of the forum itself.

 

[Just Jeff]

I did look and I wasn't impressed. I think I'll rely on my doctor's advice rather than that of a former actress.

Doctors are just actors in the stage of life, causing harm first, not helping most people.
The former actress was healed, without doctors,
and has helped thousands of people heal, without doctors, thank you.

Escaping the sickness industry does require wanting to escape the sickness, and ignoring the doctors who cause sickness.

 

[Just Jeff]

The only thing you can do is try to live a healthy, active life to prevent disease but even then genetics come into play.

Food and drink makes people sick or healthy, for thousands of years. Drugs/medicine makes people sick more than any other thing ever. The main cause of death in the world today, or the usa anyway, is medicine. See ? Find what helps without harming, not what harms for money.

To live healthy means to avoid the sickness industry, do not trust it at least. Find out what is needed for healthy, and do that.

 

[Just Jeff]

I just don't understand why the admin of websites allow for certified crackpots to make post after post of vague, meaningless disinformation about various health issues. The admin folks may think it drives up their post count, but I believe it drives away a lot of potential new members.

And brings in many more, and those desiring to be healthy can find ways to be healthy, instead of suffering more because of trusting a system set up to promote sickness.