If we ever do colonize another planet

Explain which society established the colony and you will likely find the answer to how it would be structured.
Was it Soviet, Chinese, American ... North Korean or someone else?

On the other hand, the wild card is corporate or individual efforts.
The Musks, Bezos, others and those yet to come may have their own unique ideas and efforts.

"What we have learned" will also depend on who does the colonization.

Regardless, we don't need to go to another planet. Colonization begins where you stand.
 
Naturally said:
Explain which society established the colony and you will likely find the answer to how it would be structured.
Was it Soviet, Chinese, American ... North Korean or someone else?

On the other hand, the wild card is corporate or individual efforts.
The Musks, Bezos, others and those yet to come may have their own unique ideas and efforts.

"What we have learned" will also depend on who does the colonization.

Regardless, we don't need to go to another planet. Colonization begins where you stand.
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Yeah, I would imagine there would be territorial wars, just like there has been here. All the people would never be content, because that's just not general human nature.
 
bobcat said:
How should life there be structured?
What have we learned from our experience here that would shape a better life in the new world?
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It first depends on meeting the basic needs and survival, IMHO.
I assume before a planet is colonized that all these are taken care of:
What would the terrain be like?
Would we have to wear suits and oxygen tanks to survive on the planet?
Would we have to build structures that allow us to live and breathe freely?
What about food, water, and temperature?
Would there be a sun?
What about gravity, or lack of?


I think all these important requirements that support our human needs should be addressed first (maybe by scientists and engineers) for humans to be able to live on another planet. What government would be responsible for funding this and setting up laws?

These are things to think about...
 
A world politically divided by myriad other independent nations, with different cultures, religions, moral and ethical beliefs, and different amounts of natural resources, is likely to have conflict if economically driven without controls. Anthropology tells us that 4 of 5 widely separated earliest civilizations during the Bronze Age all had continual murderous wars. Those in the very earliest Mesopotamian Civilization, with the first city states were often monstrously warmongers so.

And that pattern has continued over 4 millennia to the present modern era. Those powerful and wealthy groups will often use that power as overlords to subjugate, enslave, and persecute otherwise peaceful innocents. And will continue to selfishly, myopically, pursue economic goals even in a modern science era despite such being destructive to the planet, any future descendants, and the planet's incredible, precious, probably rare in the Universe organic life.
 
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palides2021 said:
It first depends on meeting the basic needs and survival, IMHO.
I assume before a planet is colonized that all these are taken care of:
What would the terrain be like?
Would we have to wear suits and oxygen tanks to survive on the planet?
Would we have to build structures that allow us to live and breathe freely?
What about food, water, and temperature?
Would there be a sun?
What about gravity, or lack of?


I think all these important requirements that support our human needs should be addressed first (maybe by scientists and engineers) for humans to be able to live on another planet. What government would be responsible for funding this and setting up laws?

These are things to think about...
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I guess I was thinking more about what lessons we may have learned from this planet so we don't screw up another one.
 
Build large rotation space stations to protect from Cosmic Radiation, then Artificial Gravity to mimic Earths.
Von Braun had it right. Just expensive. Space Station has proved how fragile we become in space with low
gravity, floating around tied down to use lift legs weight. We are doomed. Titan is so far out and Cold. Full
of bad stuff. Mostly explosive with O2. Mars, low gravity. people would succumb to weak. Become a lesser race.
Spend the money fixing Earth. Space is simply a very stupid rip off. Nuke power, electrical energy with Batteries
all make good sense, just dangerous. But what isn't, Who's gonna live forever. Quit the stupid Sci Fi stuff Its
just a rip off of your future and be / get real about stuff. Advancements in Heat Pumps are doing great. Electrical
Energy is awesome. Fires cause so much havoc every year. Probably always need Combustion motors in the field.
Soon most all jobs will be GIG type from home. Ai will take care of production and repairs. More electricity needed.
The endless Ant hill, Ant following Ant on the Expressways will cease to a trickle except for trucking. The truckers
will become Gig Jobs from home overseeing the trucking industries self driving, loading and unloading industries.
More electricity KW's needed.
 
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Crank up the Electricity lower the Carbons, drink good clean water.
Worry causes stress, live, dance for tomorrow is coming soon.
Most likely we will figure out how to beam me up scotty nano probes
to send to far off worlds orbiting stars to spy, beam back info in nano bytes.
Ya simply can't go fast enough as a solid entity of physical size. Doesn't it
take days to beam to Voyagers and get a respond after 50 years or something?
 
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"American" isn't one society, nor is "Canadian" for that matter.

"Soviets" are long gone aside from the remnant we live with here today.
 
bobcat said:
How should life there be structured?
What have we learned from our experience here that would shape a better life in the new world?
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If we ever do colonize another planet, I'll be leaving a lot behind and not taking a lot with me. Figger on packing two duffle bags and carry on. The dreaded 'three-bag drag, as it were. New beginning and all that. All the grandiose plans I've read on relocating the populace to another planet, I've yet once to read just what the baggage limits are. Or a recommended packing list. This is probably more important than one might think. It will represent what a person carries forward to a new existence.

Structure? What ever happened to the 'citizen of the world movement'? Recall reading about that online a number of years ago where one could declare world citizenship that stood alone from their earthly national citizenship. Wherever man determines to colonize will be a hostile environment far and away differing what one is used to. Lot of the new inhabitants will not adapt. How to deal with that with in whatever the structure? Or perhaps the visionary planners haven't gotten that far yet and are playing by ear?

Man learns much from experience but applies little of it. Volumes exist on how to better life, but it just keeps slogging along in cold mud-filled trenches as it were. What is the old saw? "Only thing man learns from history is that man does not learn from history." So, basically, in my humble opinion, man will take his inherent shortcomings with him to populate yet another planet with the same old same old.

If we ever do colonize another planet, it should be at least a millennium from now. Man is not ready.
 
We must remember the Prime Directive:
The Prime Directive prohibits Starfleet personnel and spacecraft from interfering in the normal development of any society, and mandates that any Starfleet vessel or crew member is expendable to prevent violation of this rule.
do not interfere in the natural development of a planet that is less developed. The "cobra effect"
 
ArnoldC said:
If we ever do colonize another planet, I'll be leaving a lot behind and not taking a lot with me. Figger on packing two duffle bags and carry on. The dreaded 'three-bag drag, as it were. New beginning and all that. All the grandiose plans I've read on relocating the populace to another planet, I've yet once to read just what the baggage limits are. Or a recommended packing list. This is probably more important than one might think. It will represent what a person carries forward to a new existence.

Structure? What ever happened to the 'citizen of the world movement'? Recall reading about that online a number of years ago where one could declare world citizenship that stood alone from their earthly national citizenship. Wherever man determines to colonize will be a hostile environment far and away differing what one is used to. Lot of the new inhabitants will not adapt. How to deal with that with in whatever the structure? Or perhaps the visionary planners haven't gotten that far yet and are playing by ear?

Man learns much from experience but applies little of it. Volumes exist on how to better life, but it just keeps slogging along in cold mud-filled trenches as it were. What is the old saw? "Only thing man learns from history is that man does not learn from history." So, basically, in my humble opinion, man will take his inherent shortcomings with him to populate yet another planet with the same old same old.

If we ever do colonize another planet, it should be at least a millennium from now. Man is not ready.
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I would imagine that the transport number would likely be less than 10, as the need for feed rule would prevail. I could see possibly a team of expert survivalists making the journey, and if the planet has any ecosystem whatsoever, they could possibly make a go of it. Maybe even send along a plethora of frozen embryos for later hatching. It would be an interesting experiment.
 

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