In The Last Three Days I've Read Of 3 Parents Killing Their Children

Rosemarie said:
Once again, we see the effects of families being isolated from each other. In the past, people lived in family groups so there was always support in child-care and disputes. This virus has forced people to spend long periods of time together, and brought difficulties out into the open. There are always problems at Christmas and New Year, but that period is only for a maximum of two weeks. This situation has dragged on for months. It's not surprising that it has all got too much for some people.
Now of course, someone is going to say I think it's normal for stressed parents to murder their children. I'm just saying that I can understand how it can happen. I'm sure we all can if we're honest.
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I'm sorry, but I can never, and will never understand a parent taking the life of their own child or children.

There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, that constitutes the murder of ones own flesh-and-blood ever, other than a mentally challenged individual with a serious brain-cell deficit.
 

Aunt Marg said:
I'm sorry, but I can never, and will never understand a parent taking the life of their own child or children.

There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, that constitutes the murder of ones own flesh-and-blood ever, other than a mentally challenged individual with a serious brain-cell deficit.
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Nor can I but there are people with mental disorders. Some people have grandiose delusions where they see things and hear things that aren’t there. There are schizophrenics who don’t do well without medication. My sister in laws mother threatened to kill my nephew one day. This was the nicest Christian women you could ever meet so while I can’t personally understand it , these types of things happen. I think they need more help than punishment.
 
Keesha said:
Nor can I but there are people with mental disorders. Some people have grandiose delusions where they see things and hear things that aren’t there. There are schizophrenics who don’t do well without medication. My sister in laws mother threatened to kill my nephew one day. This was the nicest Christian women you could ever meet so while I can’t personally understand it , these types of things happen. I think they need more help than punishment.
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I apologize for not being able to add much, as like yourself, this sort of thing is super upsetting.

I agree, there are ill people out there.
 
Sometimes I think it is fair to raise issues like this, especially given there appears to have been three similarly dreadful situations.

Speculating as to what went wrong may be less sensible or worthwhile, and may prove an extremely difficult exercise when each case is dealt with, or examined by the authorities. Putting my fathers/parental rights hat on for a moment I could put forward my arguments about the denial of rights to decent parents, whilst others may fairly suggest these deaths inflicted by family members on one another is evidence no parent can be trusted with even qualified rights.

One thing no one will argue over is these terrible things happening are regrettable, and they may always have occurred in our highly imperfect, and often oh so selfish world.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I apologize for not being able to add much, as like yourself, this sort of thing is super upsetting.

I agree, there are ill people out there.
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No need to apologize. It’s hard not being judgmental when you first learn about stuff like this but humans can be very complex.

Being Canadian you will probably remember this. There was a man on a bus who stabbed a bunch of people. Of course everyone’s first initial response was what a monster. He killed about 7 people and injured plenty more.

It turns out that he was a schizophrenic not taking his medicine and he was hearing God tell him to kill these people.

While it doesn’t change the fact that these people were murdered, it does shed some light on what can happen with these illnesses if people are not taking their meds or getting the help they need
 
Keesha said:
Nor can I but there are people with mental disorders. Some people have grandiose delusions where they see things and hear things that aren’t there. There are schizophrenics who don’t do well without medication. My sister in laws mother threatened to kill my nephew one day. This was the nicest Christian women you could ever meet so while I can’t personally understand it , these types of things happen. I think they need more help than punishment.
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Well, if she was Christian, she would have to be nice....... :ROFLMAO:
 
Actually there are family murder-suicide cases where a mother or father will kill the family and then commit suicide. Why? Religious beliefs, believe it or not. This murder-suicide thing has been done due to major family financial problems also.
 
There was a case in the UK back in the 1960s, south of Manchester, where the wife was killed, and three or four children, before the father, a farmer killed himself.

When police investigated they found in the farmhouse hearth, the man had burnt a lot of bank notes, (the wires inside the notes being visible, and it was thought he was worried because he hasn't paid the correct tax on the income).

Months before the terrible event a veterinary surgeon friend of my father said he'd been to the farm, felt unhappy with the way the man was behaving, and tried to warn the woman. A dreadful legacy for anyone involved, friends neighbours etc. and no one wanted to move into the farm after the tragedy.
 
There is a myriad of reasons as to why these tragedies happen. By reading about them, it does offer some ability to see problems that may be arising within a family dynamic or with those within one's social circle. Keeping your eyes and ears open can perhaps save a life. This is not sensationalizing, it is informative.
 
I remember: John List, who killed his family. Mother, wife, daughter and son by shooting each one.
Andrea Yates who killed her 5 children by drowning them in the family's bathtub.
Susan Smith, who killed her 2 boys by seat-belting them in the backseat of her car and then pushing it into a river.

All 3 people were considered to be mentally ill, but Yates was also considered to be insane due to her PPD.
 
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Yates is out of the mental institution now. I think she lives in a communal home directed by the courts. List was finally caught in VA when someone saw his picture on America's Most Wanted and the program was featured on him. What a monster that guy was. Smith. there are no words for. There had to be serious signs of stress from these people, but Yates may have hidden it well due to her religious beliefs. Sad.
 
Lewkat said:
Yates is out of the mental institution now. I think she lives in a communal home directed by the courts. List was finally caught in VA when someone saw his picture on America's Most Wanted and the program was featured on him. What a monster that guy was. Smith. there are no words for. There had to be serious signs of stress from these people, but Yates may have hidden it well due to her religious beliefs. Sad.
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List is dead and Smith will be up for her first attempt at parole in 2024
 
It has also been reported that about 1000 children and elderly are killed each year by a mental illness known as “Munchausen syndrome by proxy.”
 
Frank and earnest discussions about what some emotionally challenged life forms in their narrow minds blather that to talk about socially relevant subjects is in some way sensational or dubious in intent however countless lives are saved when such discussions divulge the signs of mental instability that otherwise would be missed without knowing what to look for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide
 
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I don't think I need to bring up the sordid details about self absorbed parents who wantonly commit filicide like Casey Anthony, Lisa Snyder and others of their ilk but this instance of a man so distraught that he decides to take his child with him to the great beyond but GOD was watching and then and there decided that this was not this little angels time.


Thank GOD for miracles.
 
911 said:
It has also been reported that about 1000 children and elderly are killed each year by a mental illness known as “Munchausen syndrome by proxy.”
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That's a creepy one for sure.

However- and I'm sure you've heard of this:
Was the person aware of the nature of his or her acts?
and did he or she know that it was wrong?
My viewpoint- I do not believe there should be any other criteria for determining whether a person is responsible and accountable for their actions.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I'm sorry, but I can never, and will never understand a parent taking the life of their own child or children.

There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, that constitutes the murder of ones own flesh-and-blood ever, other than a mentally challenged individual with a serious brain-cell deficit.
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This was on tv: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...g-4-year-old-daughter-cliff-article-1.2221610
and it's not the only case of that type. :mad: Greed and selfishness.
 

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