Iran Shooting Ballistic Missiles into Israel

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The attack just started a few minutes ago. It's unknown at this time what or how many targets have been it hit or how many incoming missiles have been taken out before they could strike.
 

IMO, this reminds me of a chihuahua picking a fight with a bigger dog who just wants to be left alone. You can only pick a fight (do your symbolic act) so many times & then the big dog is going to finish it.
 
HermitHogan said:
Iran doesn't want war with Israel. Hopefully the missile launch is just symbolic like the last time. They don't want to look like pushovers, but they also don't want more trouble.
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If Iran doesn't want more "trouble" with Israel, why does Iran bankroll Hezbollah and Hamas to the extent they do? Why wouldn't Israel reply directly to the banker in addition to the terrorists in Hamas and Hezbollah?
 
Eupher said:
They've been doing that a long time now. Same as Hamas. Which explains why Israel took out most of these terrorist organization's command and control leadership over the past several months.
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Yes they have, but these missiles were at the same time as Iran was firing theirs was the point.
 
Eupher said:
If Iran doesn't want more "trouble" with Israel, why does Iran bankroll Hezbollah and Hamas to the extent they do? Why wouldn't Israel reply directly to the banker in addition to the terrorists in Hamas and Hezbollah?
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Funding terrorism isn't the same as actually carrying out the terrorism. The U.S. has funded various terrorist organizations in the world without getting directly involved.

Hell, I don't know. We're talking about religious fanatics. In other words, completely irrational people.
 
HermitHogan said:
Funding terrorism isn't the same as actually carrying out the terrorism. The U.S. has funded various terrorist organizations in the world without getting directly involved.

Hell, I don't know. We're talking about religious fanatics. In other words, completely irrational people.
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Interesting reply. Apart from the religious aspect, which is immaterial from the viewpoint of defending one's country and existence, how does Israel's position boil down to religious fanaticism? Or do I misunderstand who you mean by "religious fanatics"?

The CIA has been known to fund some bad eggs over the years, to wit Saddam during the 80s. That practice stopped at some point - not sure when. Maybe about the time he waltzed into Kuwait in 1990. What other terrorists did the US fund, and can that be reasonably compared to Iran's funding of Hezbollah for decades?
 
HermitHogan said:
Iran doesn't want war with Israel. Hopefully the missile launch is just symbolic like the last time. They don't want to look like pushovers, but they also don't want more trouble.
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One would assume that the distance between Israel and Iran would make such a confrontation very unlikely. I guess hatred isn't hindered by such restraints.
 
Eupher said:
Interesting reply. Apart from the religious aspect, which is immaterial from the viewpoint of defending one's country and existence, how does Israel's position boil down to religious fanaticism? Or do I misunderstand who you mean by "religious fanatics"?

The CIA has been known to fund some bad eggs over the years, to wit Saddam during the 80s. That practice stopped at some point - not sure when. Maybe about the time he waltzed into Kuwait in 1990. What other terrorists did the US fund, and can that be reasonably compared to Iran's funding of Hezbollah for decades?
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The U.S. government funded many attempts at government overthrow without actually participating directly. We funded the Contras in Nicaragua to try to help them overthrow their democratically elected leader. Then there was the Iran coup in the '50s, the Hawaii government overthrow, and quite a few others. Oh, and the Cuban Bay of Pigs invasion...

Regarding the current war between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran... Israel is simply defending its country. Israel is primarily a secular state and is just trying to survive. The other three are fighting a Jihad or religious war.
 
HermitHogan said:
Iran doesn't want war with Israel. Hopefully the missile launch is just symbolic like the last time. They don't want to look like pushovers, but they also don't want more trouble.
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There’s little symbolic about launching 180 ballistic missiles at another country. It’s a sign that Iran is getting tough and calling Israel’s bluff. If it’s a bluff. Good luck with that.
 
Time for an inappropriate post... Iran wanted to send a message, but didn't trust cellphones, pagers or walkie-talkies.

Now for a more serious post. That most of the Middle East hates the U.S, is a given. However, some of those countries hate Iran as much, or more. Who hates the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas? Who funds those groups?
 
“In the Middle East, you can never talk about conflict without the corresponding associations of oil and gas.”
Atif Kubursi
Retired economics professor, McMaster University
 
The UK Government has confirmed that British forces 'played their part' in defending Israel as Iran unleashed a barrage of nearly 200 missiles across the country last night.

Israel's defence system stood firm as Iran launched warheads towards Jerusalem and Tel Aviv in revenge for Israel's campaign against Tehran's Hezbollah allies in Lebanon, including the assassination of its leader last week.

In the most dramatic development of the Middle Eastern conflict, air raid sirens sounded as 181 missiles began raining down on Israel, with some rockets dramatically exploding into bright orange flames near Tel Aviv.


But as Iran unleashed a salvo of missiles, ordered by its supreme leader Ali Khamenei, falling projectiles burned like comets against the night sky after the rockets were intercepted by Israel's 'Iron Dome' defensive system.

Israel has vowed that its air force will strike 'powerfully' overnight, sparking fears from world leaders that the Middle East is on the brink of being plunged into an all-out war.

The US has confirmed that its troops helped down the incoming missiles, and now the UK has revealed British forces also 'played their part'.

Defence Secretary John Healey 'condemned' Iran's attack, adding: 'British forces have this evening played their part in attempts to prevent further escalation in the Middle East.'

Mr Healey continued: 'I want to thank all British personnel involved in the operation for their courage and professionalism. The UK stands fully behind Israel's right to defend its country and its people against threats.'

John Healey confirms British forces 'played their part' in Middle East
 
HermitHogan said:
The U.S. government funded many attempts at government overthrow without actually participating directly. We funded the Contras in Nicaragua to try to help them overthrow their democratically elected leader. Then there was the Iran coup in the '50s, the Hawaii government overthrow, and quite a few others. Oh, and the Cuban Bay of Pigs invasion...

Regarding the current war between Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran... Israel is simply defending its country. Israel is primarily a secular state and is just trying to survive. The other three are fighting a Jihad or religious war.
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If I may quibble a bit, you specifically said that the U.S. has funded terrorist organizations. Are you saying the Contras were a terrorist organization? I note that the Wikipedia article on the Contras does say that they engaged in some terrorist activities (without specifying what -- to get that, you have to go to the reference section) and engaged in "civil rights violations." Fair enough -- but again, I ask you:

Is the United States currently funding terrorist organizations? If so, which?
 
Bottom line this is, and likely always will be, a battle of Islam determined to destroy Judaism In the Middle East. Began with Muhammad and is not likely to ever end. Too bad we don‘t have a spare state to offer to the Jews of Israel.
 
ElCastor said:
Bottom line this is, and likely always will be, a battle of Islam determined to destroy Judaism In the Middle East. Began with Muhammad and is not likely to ever end. Too bad we don‘t have a spare state to offer to the Jews of Israel.
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This is what I don't understand. They all claim descent from Abraham, so they are the same people. Abraham was given the land which is now Israel and he and his people settled there and made it their home. This was thousands of years ago. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people.
Don't the Muslims know their own history?
 

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