Is America a third world country?

JBR said:
Interesting post, frightful events. But, mm, the armed official responses were to riots.
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Yes, my point was riots appear to happen from people conflicting over things our leaders were not addressing and trying to prevent
prior to the event. Most riots I think begin with what are supposed to be Peaceful demonstrations because We The People are not being heard or taken serious enough for leaders to set aside their ego's and wants (on BOTH sides) to find a solution before disaster happens. Yes, there will be cases where that is not the beginning but prevention probably was possible before the destruction.
 

@IrishEyes I think you have touched upon one of the, maybe the most important dynamics in acting in ways that begin to improve our lives. 🛑 Fanning the flames of telling others they are wrong, bad, evil...and so on is bound to cause defensive behavior. It is time to drop the fighting and begin to listen.

Have you heard of any good riots lately? Or maybe some good wars?
 
Paco Dennis said:
@IrishEyes I think you have touched upon one of the, maybe the most important dynamics in acting in ways that begin to improve our lives. 🛑 Fanning the flames of telling others they are wrong, bad, evil...and so on is bound to cause defensive behavior. It is time to drop the fighting and begin to listen.

Have you heard of any good riots lately? Or maybe some good wars?
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I am not a political expert by any means I just know how I feel, I am sick of hearing the confusion and not knowing what is true.
So I have to trust my feelings. We need a 2 party system so one does not over power the other (checks and balances) but there
has to be give and take in that.
If (let's say a Mayor) is great at programs, keeping the city in good financial balance, that mayor may not be as good at enforcing
law and surely needs help. What is wrong with going to the feds and saying can you send an advisor to us and give us a prevention plan to avoid harsh results? I want to scream it sometimes. I wish someone would try it.
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I hope I don't get banned for this, I am not saying anyone is wrong. I just feel like we need to rub their noses
together and make them sit down and figure out something before we end up where this looks like it's going.
 

gruntlabor said:
This topic, San Francisco vs Thailand, is not political. The OP has not specified any rules. It seems to me that oslooskar's posts are within bounds of our subject: IS AMERICA A THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY?
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And I made no claim otherwise. My desire to end the discussion is based around the observation that it had already become a fruitless back and forth which neither informed nor moved the topic along. In fact, it might even dissuade others from joining in. ;)
 
VaughanJB said:
And I made no claim otherwise. My desire to end the discussion is based around the observation that it had already become a fruitless back and forth which neither informed nor moved the topic along. In fact, it might even dissuade others from joining in. ;)
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:) I just believe that, with regard to San Francisco and some other American cities, we must have order. The first requirement of civilization is order.
 

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