Israel Has Declared War after Unprecedented Hamas Attack

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All it takes for evil to trimuph .... is for good men to do nothing.
Note; Not sure that's a quote, but it's close.
I've thought of this quote a lot since 07 Oct. When I see someone questioning why Israel needs to strike back, it boggles that no one remembers Nazi Germany and Hitler. Burying history like that... I don't get it.

Anyhow, yeah... that quote. Attributed often to Edmund Burke... and sometimes to JFK... and sometimes to Biblical scripture, but it doesn't really matter because it's a good quote no matter who said it.
 

Israel: Hamas terror group’s main operations base is under Shifa Hospital in Gaza City​

In a briefing for reporters of international media outlets, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says the Hamas terror group’s main base of operations is under Shifa Hospital in Gaza City.

Hagari says that Hamas has several underground complexes under Shifa — the largest hospital in the Gaza Strip — which are used by the terror group’s leaders to direct attacks against Israel.

He notes: “We have concrete evidence that hundreds of terrorists flooded into the hospital to hide there after the massacres of October 7.”

He says Israel has intelligence that there are several tunnels leading to the underground base from outside the hospital, so that Hamas officials do not need to enter the hospital to reach it. But Hagari adds that there is also an entrance to the underground complex from within one of the wards.

“Hamas terrorists operate inside and under Shifa hospital — and other hospitals in Gaza — with a network of terror tunnels,” he says. “Shifa is not the only hospital — it is one of many. Hamas use of hospitals is systematic.”

Additionally, according to the IDF, Hamas’s internal security has a command center inside Shifa Hospital, from which it directs rocket fire on Israel and stores weapons.

Hagari accuses Hamas of using the hospital — with 1,500 beds and some 4,000 staff — as human shields.

“Hamas uses Shifa hospital as a shield for Hamas terror infrastructure,” Hagari says. “Hamas wages war from hospitals. By operating from these hospitals, Hamas not only endangers the lives of Israeli civilians; but also exploits innocent Gazan civilians.

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I've thought of this quote a lot since 07 Oct. When I see someone questioning why Israel needs to strike back, it boggles that no one remembers Nazi Germany and Hitler. Burying history like that... I don't get it.

Anyhow, yeah... that quote. Attributed often to Edmund Burke... and sometimes to JFK... and sometimes to Biblical scripture, but it doesn't really matter because it's a good quote no matter who said it.


I believe it is biblical ... even though I am not biblical.
 
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The horrific things the Muslims did to the Israelis on Oct. 7, and the swift military response to it, certainly deserves the space civilians are taking to digest it and express their thoughts and feelings about it. But at some point mature adults need to look beyond the current situation and discuss the root cause of it and whether it has happened before and what (if anything) can be done to reduce the chances of it happening again.

An identical attack has in fact happened before, in 1971, when the Muslim Army of West Pakistan made an identical attack on the civilians of east Pakistan, raping women and slaughtering them, hacking babies to death, carrying young girls off to brothels in the military barracks and killing men straight away or torturing them to death. This was before the Internet and the gruesome details were documented in a book called Massacre: The Tragedy at Bangla Desh, written by a British war correspondent. This was also before each Muslim country had different names for their Muslim jihadis.

Since that time, Muslim countries have developed a long list of names for their Muslim jihadis. But whether they call themselves Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or the Sugar Plum Fairies, they’re all Muslims who subscribe to the Islamic jihad theology in the Quran. Once American civilians understand this, we can have a national discussion about this theology and what (if anything) can be done about it. There’s a national discussion about how Internet platforms damage young people’s minds, but nothing about what the Quran can do to adult people’s minds.
 
More hostages. Hamas isn't letting foreign nationals leave Gaza though Egypt is willing to take them.

MSN link

Excerpt:

Hamas is blocking foreign nationals including Britons from leaving Gaza, the United States said on Sunday, as Israel sent more troops into the strip to join a ground offensive.​
Britain was on Sunday working to rescue trapped citizens as civil disorder and looting broke out at UN aid warehouses in besieged Gaza.​
American officials said that Israel and Egypt were prepared to let foreigners leave the Strip which is under heavy Israeli bombardment, but Hamas had refused.​
At least 200 British citizens are thought to be registered with the UK authorities inside the coastal enclave, and some 600 Americans, as well as many other nationalities.​
Jake Sullivan, the White House’s chief security adviser, said: “The Egyptians are prepared to let Americans and other foreign nationals out of Gaza. The Israelis have no issue with that. But Hamas is preventing their departure and making a series of demands.”​
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I do hope that it is not perceived to be obscene if I cry out not only for Israeli victims, but, also, for the Palestinians (who will suffer even more). I have great compassion for the Israeli victims, but not so much for the State of Israel, given its history towards the Palestinians. To me, that statement is common sense, not anti-Semitism. - David
 
There have been several "anti-Israel" protests on college campuses in recent days. Apparently these "educated idiots" are overlooking the fact that Hamas started this carnage.
American college students and their parents need an education in Islamic jihad ideology. It isn’t land squabbles with Israel that cause them to be savage animals. They’ve been doing these atrocities for a thousand years over thousands of miles.

It wasn’t a land squabble with Israel that caused the Muslim jihad group called Boco Haram to capture a school full of girls in Nigeria and carry them off to their military compound. Boco Haram said they hoped to establish an Islamic caliphate in Nigeria and were opposed to western-style education. The few girls who escaped told of beatings, near starvation, rape and forced conversion to Islam.

Israel is fighting the war for all of us. Let's hope they prevail.

Chibok schoolgirls kidnapping - Wikipedia
 

‘Slit Their Throats’: Police On Scene At Cornell University Jewish Center After Violent Threats; University in Contact With FBI​

Police were on the scene and investigating at Cornell’s Center for Jewish Living in Ithaca, New York, on Sunday night after heinous threats to the building and to Jewish students were posted online, and University President Martha E. Pollack has contacted the FBI about “a potential hate crime.”

Screenshots hit social media Sunday of heinous messages posted in a Cornell University discussion forum over the weekend calling for the murder of Jewish students and making specific threats.

Among messages declaring “Allahuh Akbar” and “Glory to Hamas” and calling for slitting the throats of Jewish students over the war, one message specifically singled out the building at 104 West, which houses the kosher dining hall and Center for Jewish Living.



The university issued a community warning confirming that the screenshots of threats posted online were real and urging the community to report “any suspected criminal activity” or to contact the University with any information on the threats.

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Yes, it's currently happening in 2023 in the United States of America at a renowned liberal university.
 
I do hope that it is not perceived to be obscene if I cry out not only for Israeli victims, but, also, for the Palestinians (who will suffer even more). I have great compassion for the Israeli victims, but not so much for the State of Israel, given its history towards the Palestinians. To me, that statement is common sense, not anti-Semitism. - David
Just to be clear, since you support Palestine/Hamas (and they are one and the same) then you support the beheading of this young woman.

Hope that make you proud.

Beheading of Shani Louk
 
Just to be clear, since you support Palestine/Hamas (and they are one and the same) then you support the beheading of this young woman.

Hope that make you proud.

Beheading of Shani Louk
Tragic because her fate seems to keep changing from first killed on the spot, to kidnapped now they saying killed on the spot and decapitated. Serial killers do that to civilains. Not actual soldiers for a cause.
 
A friend sent this to me the other day. It is an interesting read about a book that was written in 1695 about Palestine. I looking for an English translation from Latin to read.

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HISTORICAL FACT: Palestine in the 1600s

The book completely refutes theories about "Palestinian traditions,” to the "Palestinian people" and has almost no link between the land and the Arabs

The author Adriani Rilandi is a geographer, cartographer, traveler, philologist, he knew several European languages, Arabic, ancient Greek, Hebrew. The book is written in Latin. In the year 1695. Rilandi was describing what was then called Palestine.° .

THERE IS AN OLD BOOK "PALESTINA EX” MONUMENTIS VETERIBUS ILLUSTRATA"

The author Adriani Rilandi is a geographer, cartographer, traveler, philologist, he knew several European languages, Arabic, ancient Greek, Hebrew. The book is written in Latin in the year 1695. Rilandi was describing what was then called Palestine. He visited almost 2,500 settlements mentioned in the Bible. The research was conducted as follows:

*He first created the map of Palestine. He then designated every settlement mentioned in the Bible or the Talmud with its original name.

* If the original was Jewish, it meant "pasuk" (sentence in the Holy Scriptures, which mentions the name).

* If the original was Roman or Greek, the connection was in Latin or Greek. In the end, he made a population census by settlements.


HERE ARE THE MAIN CONCLUSIONS AND SOME FACTS:

* The country is mainly empty, abandoned, sparsely populated, the main population in Jerusalem, Akko, Tsfat, Jaffa, Tveria and Gaza.

* Most of the population is Jews, almost everyone else is Christians, very few Muslims, mostly Bedouins.

*The only exception is Nablus (now)Schem), in which approximately 120 people from the Muslim family Natsha lived and approximately 70 "shomronim" (Samaritans).

* In Nazareth, the capital of Galilee, lived approximately 700 people - all Christians.

* In Jerusalem - about 5000 people, almost all Jews and a few Christians.

* In 1695, everyone knew that the origin of the country was Jewish.

* There is not a single settlement in Palestine that has Arabic roots in its name.

* Most settlements have Jewish originals, and in some cases Greek or Roman Latin.

* Apart from the city of Ramla, there is no Arabic settlement that has an original Arabic name. Jewish, Greek or Latin names that have been changed to Arabic that don't make any sense in Arabic.

In Arabic, names like Akko, Haifa, Jaffa, Nablus, Gaza or Jenin do not make any sense, and names like Ramallah, al-Khalil (Hebron), al-Quds (Jerusalem) do not have philological or historical Arabic roots.

So, for example, in 1696, Ramallah was called Bethel (Beit El, the House of God), Hebron was called Hebron and the Cave of Mahpel was called El-Khalil (the nickname of Abraham) by the Arabs.

* Relandi mentions Muslims only as nomadic Bedouins who came to the cities as seasonal workers in agriculture or construction.

* About 550 people lived in Gaza, half of them Jews and half Christians. Jews were successful in agriculture, especially in vineyards, olives and wheat, Christians were trading and by transportation.

* Jews lived in Tveria and Tsfat, but their occupation is not mentioned, except for the traditional fishing in Kineret.

* In the village of Um El Fahm, for example, lived 10 families, all Christians (about 50 people). There stood a small Maronite church. The book completely refutes theories about "Palestinian traditions," to the "Palestinian people" and has almost no link between the land and the Arabs, who even stole the Latin name of the land (Palestine) and took it for themselves.

Discovered by: Yuri Sobolev
 
This is good news. Lebanon citizens and Lebanon Army don't want war with Israel.

Lebanese Druze confront, detain Hezbollah rocket crew after it fires at Israel
Angry villagers in Chouya accuse terror group of endangering lives by firing from near civilian areas; Lebanon army arrives, confiscates launcher, arrests 4 suspects

Druze residents in a southern Lebanese village halted the Hezbollah crew with its rocket launchers that had fired into Israel on Friday, and detained its members until the Lebanese Army arrived, according to media reports and video footage.

Read complete article here:
Lebanese Army Dismantles Hezbollah Rocket Launchers
 
Between the Israel and Ukraine conflicts, I suspect we will be drawn into a major global chaotic mess. I see No resolution to either of these battles, and the longer they persist, the more likely we will all begin to feel the effects.
 
The horrific things the Muslims did to the Israelis on Oct. 7, and the swift military response to it, certainly deserves the space civilians are taking to digest it and express their thoughts and feelings about it. But at some point mature adults need to look beyond the current situation and discuss the root cause of it and whether it has happened before and what (if anything) can be done to reduce the chances of it happening again.

An identical attack has in fact happened before, in 1971, when the Muslim Army of West Pakistan made an identical attack on the civilians of east Pakistan, raping women and slaughtering them, hacking babies to death, carrying young girls off to brothels in the military barracks and killing men straight away or torturing them to death. This was before the Internet and the gruesome details were documented in a book called Massacre: The Tragedy at Bangla Desh, written by a British war correspondent. This was also before each Muslim country had different names for their Muslim jihadis.

Since that time, Muslim countries have developed a long list of names for their Muslim jihadis. But whether they call themselves Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or the Sugar Plum Fairies, they’re all Muslims who subscribe to the Islamic jihad theology in the Quran. Once American civilians understand this, we can have a national discussion about this theology and what (if anything) can be done about it. There’s a national discussion about how Internet platforms damage young people’s minds, but nothing about what the Quran can do to adult people’s minds.
Sorry but any religion that delights in hacking up babies is no real religion. If I believed in the devil I would say they in fact are satanic!!!
 
A friend sent this to me the other day. It is an interesting read about a book that was written in 1695 about Palestine. I looking for an English translation from Latin to read.

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HISTORICAL FACT: Palestine in the 1600s

The book completely refutes theories about "Palestinian traditions,” to the "Palestinian people" and has almost no link between the land and the Arabs

The author Adriani Rilandi is a geographer, cartographer, traveler, philologist, he knew several European languages, Arabic, ancient Greek, Hebrew. The book is written in Latin. In the year 1695. Rilandi was describing what was then called Palestine.° .

THERE IS AN OLD BOOK "PALESTINA EX” MONUMENTIS VETERIBUS ILLUSTRATA"

The author Adriani Rilandi is a geographer, cartographer, traveler, philologist, he knew several European languages, Arabic, ancient Greek, Hebrew. The book is written in Latin in the year 1695. Rilandi was describing what was then called Palestine. He visited almost 2,500 settlements mentioned in the Bible. The research was conducted as follows:

*He first created the map of Palestine. He then designated every settlement mentioned in the Bible or the Talmud with its original name.

* If the original was Jewish, it meant "pasuk" (sentence in the Holy Scriptures, which mentions the name).

* If the original was Roman or Greek, the connection was in Latin or Greek. In the end, he made a population census by settlements.


HERE ARE THE MAIN CONCLUSIONS AND SOME FACTS:

* The country is mainly empty, abandoned, sparsely populated, the main population in Jerusalem, Akko, Tsfat, Jaffa, Tveria and Gaza.

* Most of the population is Jews, almost everyone else is Christians, very few Muslims, mostly Bedouins.

*The only exception is Nablus (now)Schem), in which approximately 120 people from the Muslim family Natsha lived and approximately 70 "shomronim" (Samaritans).

* In Nazareth, the capital of Galilee, lived approximately 700 people - all Christians.

* In Jerusalem - about 5000 people, almost all Jews and a few Christians.

* In 1695, everyone knew that the origin of the country was Jewish.

* There is not a single settlement in Palestine that has Arabic roots in its name.

* Most settlements have Jewish originals, and in some cases Greek or Roman Latin.

* Apart from the city of Ramla, there is no Arabic settlement that has an original Arabic name. Jewish, Greek or Latin names that have been changed to Arabic that don't make any sense in Arabic.

In Arabic, names like Akko, Haifa, Jaffa, Nablus, Gaza or Jenin do not make any sense, and names like Ramallah, al-Khalil (Hebron), al-Quds (Jerusalem) do not have philological or historical Arabic roots.

So, for example, in 1696, Ramallah was called Bethel (Beit El, the House of God), Hebron was called Hebron and the Cave of Mahpel was called El-Khalil (the nickname of Abraham) by the Arabs.

* Relandi mentions Muslims only as nomadic Bedouins who came to the cities as seasonal workers in agriculture or construction.

* About 550 people lived in Gaza, half of them Jews and half Christians. Jews were successful in agriculture, especially in vineyards, olives and wheat, Christians were trading and by transportation.

* Jews lived in Tveria and Tsfat, but their occupation is not mentioned, except for the traditional fishing in Kineret.

* In the village of Um El Fahm, for example, lived 10 families, all Christians (about 50 people). There stood a small Maronite church. The book completely refutes theories about "Palestinian traditions," to the "Palestinian people" and has almost no link between the land and the Arabs, who even stole the Latin name of the land (Palestine) and took it for themselves.

Discovered by: Yuri Sobolev
Most scholars of ancient history agree that the name Palestine was given to that region by the Roman Empire. And there were no Palestinians - meaning no race or an ethnic group of people called Palestinians - until well after Israel was recognized as a nation in 1948.
 
When I see footage of children bloodied, bewildered and crying, or tiny shrouded bodies being carried by distraught parents, I do not care about who is right and who is wrong on what side.

It is all wrong.
Maybe so. But we are not living in a rainbows and unicorns world. There is evil in the world, and it may be necessary to defend oneself.

Or, are you saying that, if someone was coming to gun you and your loved ones down, you wouldn't defend yourself and your loved ones ... because it's "wrong"?
 
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FBI director warns of heightened threats in US from Israel-Hamas war​

The Israel-Hamas war has raised the threat of attacks against Americans in the United States to a “whole ‘nother level,” FBI Director Christopher Wray warns.

“We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven’t seen since (the Islamic State group) launched its so-called caliphate several years ago,” Wray tells the Senate Committee on Homeland Security.

“We also cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or another foreign terrorist organization may exploit the current conflict to conduct attacks here on our own soil,” he says.

The head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation says the most significant threat was to Jewish and Muslim communities in the United States.

“Our most immediate concern is that violent extremists, individuals or small groups, will draw inspiration from the events of the Middle East and carry out attacks against Americans going about their daily lives,” he says.

“That includes not just homegrown violent extremists inspired by a foreign terrorist organization but also domestic violent extremists targeting Jewish or Muslim communities.”

FBI director warns of heightened threats in US from Israel-Hamas war
 
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