Israel Has Declared War after Unprecedented Hamas Attack

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Body of Yehudit Weiss recovered in structure adjacent to Shifa Hospital​

The terrorist organization Hamas abducted the 64 year-old cancer patient, after murdering her husband Shmulik on October 7

After being abducted on October 7 by the terrorist organization Hamas, the body of Yehudit Weiss was recovered from a structure adjacent to the Al-Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).


The IDF troops extracted the body of Yehudit back to Israeli territory. In addition to the deceased woman, military equipment including Kalashnikov rifles and RPG's were also found in the location.

The 64 year-old cancer patient was abducted from her home in Be'eri on October 7 by the Hamas terrorist organization, after murdering her husband Shmulik and over a thousand others during an infiltration that led to the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.

Body of Yehudit Weiss recovered in structure adjacent to Shifa Hospital - I24NEWS
 
Rose65 said:
I am glad the tiny babies are being taken away to safety.
I am in awe of the doctors and medical staff who did not abandon their duty. That is courage, flames of hope in this darkness.
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Yes, same here.

Just think how many more babies could be alive today had Hamas of Palestine not crossed into Israel on the night of Oct. 7, 2023 and attacked Israeli families in their homes, brutally killing people of all ages, raping women and beheading Israeli babies and toddlers. :cry: That was when this current round of darkness began.
 
Myrtle said:
Yes, same here.

Just think how many more babies could be alive today had Hamas of Palestine not crossed into Israel on the night of Oct. 7, 2023 and attacked Israeli families in their homes, brutally killing people of all ages, raping women and beheading Israeli babies and toddlers. :cry: That was when this current round of darkness began.
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AS I predicted a month ago, the IDF is pounding Hamas into the ground, relentlessly day after day. The IDF has released videos showing the weapons hidden in the basement of the biggest hospital in Gaza. The tunnels, and the hidden fuel tanks and food stores. Watch the Hamas produced propaganda videos, and note how in the background the lights are still working and the medical staff are wearing clean scrubs ???

Those people leaving thru the exit into Egypt, who have Canadian passports, should be told in no uncertain terms that if you go back to Gaza at any time in the future "You are on your own ". No more rescue operations funded by Canada. In Lebanon there are an estimated 14,000 people with Canadian citizenship.

Seventeen years ago, when the civil war in Lebanon kicked off, Canada had to mount a massive operation to bring them to Canada. NOW they are back there again. These are what I call "paper Canadians " who lived in Canada just long enough to get citizenship, then they went "Back home " to the middle east, again. They contribute nothing to Canada, but when they reach age 65 they will have their hands out looking to collect the Canadian pension cheques. JimB.
 
@jimintoronto, someone who becomes a naturalized citizen & then leaves to go back to their home country shouldn't be entitled to any benefits. Their right to citizenship should come to an end. Becoming a citizen means you respect your new country & the people who live their, live by that countries laws, work for the betterment of that country, make your own way & assimilate into that established culture.

If you can't do that, then your part of the problem & not the solution. You don't go to a new country & try to turn it or make into what you left behind. Your term "paper Canadian" is accurate & they exist in other countries too.

I've seen people in the local Walmart wire money they earn back in the U.S. to the country they are from to whoever is there. That income is leaving this country to be spent in another nation supporting it. No wonder our economy is having problems when the money leaving isn't spent here to keep our country going. I have no doubt it's happening in Canada & other places as well.
 
Lilac said:
@jimintoronto, someone who becomes a naturalized citizen & then leaves to go back to their home country shouldn't be entitled to any benefits. Their right to citizenship should come to an end. Becoming a citizen means you respect your new country & the people who live their, live by that countries laws, work for the betterment of that country, make your own way & assimilate into that established culture.

If you can't do that, then your part of the problem & not the solution. You don't go to a new country & try to turn it or make into what you left behind. Your term "paper Canadian" is accurate & they exist in other countries too.

I've seen people in the local Walmart wire money they earn back in the U.S. to the country they are from to whoever is there. That income is leaving this country to be spent in another nation supporting it. No wonder our economy is having problems when the money leaving isn't spent here to keep our country going. I have no doubt it's happening in Canada & other places as well.
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Part of the problem lies in the way that Canada grants citizenship to babies born here from Immigrant parents. If a child is born in Canada, that child automatically becomes a citizen of Canada. The only exemption is for babies born in Canada to parents who are foreign diplomats on assignment to Canada. This practice is why we have so many Chinese "anchor babies " born here, by visiting Chinese women. The child gets a Canadian birth certificate, but the Mother does not. When that baby gets to be 18 years old they can come to Canada, based on their having been "born here ". THEN they can sponsor their Parents, and minor siblings under the "family reunion program ". It is a long term game on our Immigration system. A back door way into Canada.

The so called "Canadians " in the middle east also play the system by having as many babies as possible while in Canada, so those kids can later come back as young adults to attend Canadian Universities as "Canadian citizens " which means they don't have to go through a screening process at the port of entry, and they qualify for full Canadian scholarships, based on their being citizens of Canada. As citizens they pay the lowest tuition rates.

In order to get the Canadian Old Age Pension, the person's only qualification is to be a "Citizen of Canada" The Canada Pension Plan requires the person to contribute payments every pay period for years, in order to get the CPP cheques as a senior. So some body could live outside of Canada for decades without ever paying income taxes to Canada, then collect a pension from age 65 to their death, in Canadian dollars, while living in some other part of the world. JimB.
 
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Part of the problem lies in the way that Canada grants citizenship to babies born here from Immigrant parents. If a child is born in Canada, that child automatically becomes a citizen of Canada. The only exemption is for babies born in Canada to parents who are foreign diplomats on assignment to Canada. This practice is why we have so many Chinese "anchor babies " born here, by visiting Chinese women. The child gets a Canadian birth certificate, but the Mother does not. When that baby gets to be 18 years old they can come to Canada, based on their having been "born here ". THEN they can sponsor their Parents, and minor siblings under the "family reunion program ". It is a long term game on our Immigration system. A back door way into Canada.
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That part is the same in the states. Once illegals have an anchor baby, they aren't deported to where they came from. Another way they get past doing it legally is to marry a citizen & then have a kid. Again, the illegal isn't deported saying the don't want to split up families. This loop hole should be closed.

There was a story several years ago about a place in California when pregnant Chinese women came here to have their kids. This is a link to one of the stories: Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists
 
Susan Sarandon has been dumped by her Hollywood agency UTA over her controversial remark that frightened Jews in America facing rising antisemitism are getting a 'taste of how it feels to be Muslim'.

Page Six reports that staffers at the agency were so hurt and shocked by left-wing Sarandon's comments that it led to them cutting ties. She had been with the agency since 2014.

Sarandon - who was among those leading the SAG-AFTRA strike - is yet to comment.

The agency, which stands for United Talent Agency, is run by Jewish CEO Jeremy Zimmer.

Sarandon made the inflammatory remark at a protest in NYC on November 17.
She said people who are 'afraid to be Jewish' in America are 'getting a taste of what it feels like to be Muslim in America.'

Jews slammed her remarks and some Muslim Americans including Asra Nomani have taken to social media to explain to Sarandon the ways in which their lives improved when they moved to America.

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Susan Sarandon is dumped by agent UTA over her remarks about Jews
 
This thread has gotten so long and had gotten on my last nerve, so I had to step away for a while. There are too many replies for me to go through but the gist of some of what I read early on insinuated that all Muslims hate Christians and Jews and wish to do them harm. That's how it comes off when you paint everyone with a broad brush.

There was also the ridiculous view that one could not empathize with the Palestinian people without being supporters of Hamas. So here are my questions to a few of those who I can remember posted what I consider Islamophobic comments. Let me reiterate that I in no way support the heinous, terrible actions of Hamas!!! But painting all we Muslims as haters and terrorists is just wrong on so many levels.
@TabbyAnn @ElCastor @jimintoronto @AnnieA
My questions to you are:
If Muslims hate Christians and Jews and all non-Muslims then...

~Why are Muslims and Jews working together to gain a better understanding and pass that on to constituents?

The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council was formed in 2016. Besides the 46 key members, there are 11 regional councils in Dallas & Houston, Texas, Detroit, Michigan, Los Angeles, CA, Louisville, KY, Miami, FLA, Philadelphia, PA, Washington, DC, also in New Jersey and New York. “The regional councils bring together local business, professional, civil society and religious leaders from both communities to work on issues of common concern.”

Their two main goals are to reverse the rise of hate crimes and promote the contributions of religious minorities to America.

~And how come Imams and Muslim ministers teach not only from the Holy Quran, but also from the Bible? I’ve heard several Kutbahs (sermons) by different Imams in which the Bible was referenced.

~Why did Imam W.D. Mohammed welcome and give the floor to the leader of the Focolare people after one of his keynote speeches in Washington, DC.? Again, we were there. He introduced her warmly and she was shown much respect.

~Why is there a book in publication, Stories of the Prophets, written by a Muslim, that honors all of the prophets that came before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). I have the book.

~Furthermore why are there Surahs in the Quran that reference Jesus’ mother Mary? This synopsis from Wikipedia (but I have read the Surahs myself).

“Maryam bint Imran (Arabic: مَرْيَم بِنْت عِمْرَان, romanized: Maryam bint ʿImrān, lit. 'Mary, daughter of Imran') is revered in Islam. The Qur'an refers to her seventy times and explicitly identifies her as the greatest woman to have ever lived.[1][2][3] In the Quran, her story is related in three Meccan surahs (19, 21, 23) and four Medinan surahs (3, 4, 5, 66). The nineteenth Surah, Maryam, is named after her. Moreover, she is the only woman named in the Quran.[4] The Quran refers to her more often than the Bible.[a][5]”

~And why did Muslims help (both financially and physically) clean up a vandalized Jewish cemetery? A Christian friend of mine told me of more good deeds by Muslims toward Christians & Jews that I wasn’t aware of.
Muslims Raise $100,000 (updated amount) to help repair vandalized Jewish cemeteries
US Muslim community campaigns to repair Jewish cemetery
Muslims Raised More Than $95,000 To Repair A Vandalized Jewish Cemetery
Muslims Raise Money to Repair Vandalized Jewish Cemetery

This has gotten long, but I’ll add more later. BTW, I was born and raised Christian. My family went to church every Sunday. First I had to attend Sunday school. At this point in my life (76 years), I can say I was a Christian for more than half my life.
 
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OneEyedDiva said:
This thread has gotten so long and had gotten on my last nerve, so I had to step away for a while. There are too many replies for me to go through but the gist of some of what I read early on insinuated that all Muslims hate Christians and Jews and wish to do them harm. That's how it comes off when you paint everyone with a broad brush
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You may never read this, but since you mentioned me in your post, I feel compelled to reply. First let me say that I am not completely foreign to Islam. Courtesy of the US Navy I lived in Spain for two years, and spent many weekends in Morocco. Very friendly country, although non-Muslims are not permitted to set foot in their mosques. I was permitted to enter Istanbul‘s Blue Mosque — very nice.

However, much of Europe has experienced various Islamic problems. Your description of US Islamic efforts at peace are no doubt accurate, but these acts of Muslim equanimity are not happening in many other parts of the world. I can refer you to the Religion of Peace web site that maintains a running 30 day list (as long as your arm) of killings in the name of Islam across the globe. Please consider taking a look.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks
 
BREAKING NEWS> A vehicle has exploded at the US side of the Rainbow Bridge at Niagara Falls New York this afternoon. The vehicle was at the CBP inspection booth on the US side of the bridge, when it exploded. First reports say two persons are dead in the vehicle. ALL of the 4 bridges that lead from Ontario to New York State are currently closed. Both US and Canadian Police are investigating this event. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/rainbow-bridge-explosion-niagara-1.7036398

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OneEyedDiva said:
@TabbyAnn @ElCastor @jimintoronto @AnnieA
My questions to you are:
If Muslims hate Christians and Jews and all non-Muslims then...
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In your post 1113, you asked me if Muslims hate Christians and Jews and all non-Muslims, then why are Muslims doing public relations work with them?

I can only speculate that Muslims are doing public relations work in western democracies because they are trying to preserve their status and upward mobility as much as possible in the face of their more devout brothers acting so badly. Or secondly, they may be following the Muslim Brotherhood directive to integrate into American institutions for the purpose of destroying our democracy from within. But you should know more about that than me

Regarding the effort to associate Jesus with the Quran, Muhammad mentioned several historic religious figures in the Quran, including Jesus and Mary. But none of the teachings of Jesus are in the Quran. The teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad are diametrically opposed. .

Regarding you calling people Islamophobic, I think the Islamophobic card may have just about played itself out. People don’t care about being called Islamophobic anymore. The safety of their children is more important. If Israel had been more Islamophobic and had troops and tanks along every inch of their border, the U.S. may not be spending billions of dollars on Muslim mayhem again. If you support the Islamic government in the Quran and Palestine over the American government, you may be westerndemocracyophobic.
 
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jimintoronto said:
Those people leaving thru the exit into Egypt, who have Canadian passports, should be told in no uncertain terms that if you go back to Gaza at any time in the future "You are on your own ". No more rescue operations funded by Canada. In Lebanon there are an estimated 14,000 people with Canadian citizenship.

Seventeen years ago, when the civil war in Lebanon kicked off, Canada had to mount a massive operation to bring them to Canada. NOW they are back there again. These are what I call "paper Canadians " who lived in Canada just long enough to get citizenship, then they went "Back home " to the middle east, again. They contribute nothing to Canada, but when they reach age 65 they will have their hands out looking to collect the Canadian pension cheques. JimB.
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I agree with you. Do they have dual citizenship or just Canadian citizenship and live in the middle east? I've never liked the idea of dual citizenship but never knew exactly how it worked.
 
jimintoronto said:
BREAKING NEWS> A vehicle has exploded at the US side of the Rainbow Bridge at Niagara Falls New York this afternoon. The vehicle was at the CBP inspection booth on the US side of the bridge, when it exploded. First reports say two persons are dead in the vehicle. ALL of the 4 bridges that lead from Ontario to New York State are currently closed. Both US and Canadian Police are investigating this event. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/rainbow-bridge-explosion-niagara-1.7036398

JimB.
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Jim, is there any more news on whether this was a terror attack or not?
The last update we had here was that no explosives were found in the debris.
 
Tish said:
Jim, is there any more news on whether this was a terror attack or not?
The last update we had here was that no explosives were found in the debris.
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AS of this morning ( November 24 ) the situation is being described as a traffic accident. The vehicle approached the US side of the international bridge at Niagara Falls New York, at a VERY high rate of speed. Video cameras at the border check point show that the car struck a concrete barrier and flew into the air, landing about 100 feet from the barrier. The car struck one of the border inspection booths at the bridge entrance, exploded and burst into a massive fire. One US border officer, who was in that inspection booth was slightly injured. The two people in the car died on scene.

Subsequent investigations by various US law enforcement agencies revealed that the vehicle had stopped for a period of time at a local gambling casino, then it drove towards the international bridge. Vehicle malfunction MAY have contributed to this accident. Some news reports have said that the car was a 2020 Bentley luxury model. The video that I have seen shows very little of the car remains after the explosion and fire. The engine block was the largest thing in the debris field.

The FBI has revealed that the owner of the car was a man who lives in New York state. His social media accounts show NO terrorist threats, and no obvious connections to any organized political group. Forensic investigators have reported that there were no traces of any explosive materials found on the scene. If the car had a full gas tank, that amount of fuel would have been enough to result in the large fire that occurred.

Reports suggest that the occupants of that car intended to travel to Toronto to attend a concert put on by KISS at the Scotiabank Centre that evening. This would probably explain why the gas tank was full. The driving time from Niagara Falls New York, to Toronto is about 3 hours , one way. They may have filled up their gas tank on the US side of the border.

I know that many people are edgy now, with the ongoing Hamas/Israel war. I think that this was an unusual and tragic accident that was not terrorist related. JimB.
 
TabbyAnn said:
I agree with you. Do they have dual citizenship or just Canadian citizenship and live in the middle east? I've never liked the idea of dual citizenship but never knew exactly how it worked.
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The people that I was talking about are dual citizens. They immigrated to Canada as Permanent Residents after being approved by our Government. They lived and worked in Canada long enough to qualify for Canadian citizenship. That process takes 5 or 6 years to complete. Once they have their Canadian citizenship, they can leave Canada and go back to live in the country where they were born.

While in Canada as Permanent Residents they try to have as many babies as possible, so those babies will be granted Canadian citizenship because " they were born here ". When those babies become young adults, they come back to Canada to attend a Canadian University, and because they are citizens they get the lowest tuition rates, and they qualify as "domestic students ". Their Parents who have Canadian citizenship, can and do come back to Canada for medical care, based on their having citizenship here. During all of this , they are NOT making any financial contribution to the Canadian economy, at all.

When those overseas "Paper Canadians " find themselves in danger, they start DEMANDING that Canada "save them " by sending our military forces and civilian transport aircraft to where they have decided to live. At the present time, the Canadian Government estimates that about 14,000 people with Canadian citizenship are living in Lebanon, and about 500 are in Gaza. Seventeen years ago, when the civil war began in Lebanon, Canada had to mount a massive "rescue mission" to bring them to Canada. MANY of them moved back there within a few years.

When someone who has lived outside of Canada for decades reaches age 65, they are able to receive the Canada Old Age Pension, even though they have made no contribution to our economy for decades. The only qualification to receive that pension is to be a citizen of Canada. The Canada Pension Plan is a second pension, BUT that program requires the person to make contributions from their pay cheque every pay period all through each year. The employer makes a matching contribution every pay period, too. The more the individual pays into CPP over their working life, the higher the monthly pension payment will be in their retirement years.

A person who has lived outside of Canada and has made minimal CPP payments for a short period of time during their stay in Canada, will not get much if any CPP payments in their retirement years. JImB.
 
jimintoronto said:
The people that I was talking about are dual citizens. They immigrated to Canada as Permanent Residents after being approved by our Government. They lived and worked in Canada long enough to qualify for Canadian citizenship. That process takes 5 or 6 years to complete. Once they have their Canadian citizenship, they can leave Canada and go back to live in the country where they were born.
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So I guess the dual citizenship comes from their birth country retaining their citizenship while their immigrant country also grants them citizenship? This is a travesty and should be stopped.
 
TabbyAnn said:
So I guess the dual citizenship comes from their birth country retaining their citizenship while their immigrant country also grants them citizenship? This is a travesty and should be stopped.
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There are about 900,000 American citizens, who are also Canadian citizens, who live and work here . Would you suggest that those Americans who live in Canada, should have their US citizenships revoked ? Do you see where that is not a good idea ? It is perfectly legal for a US citizen to hold citizenship in another country. JImB.
 
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