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Can’t speak for Europe and Canada, but deportation of US citizens based on religion has a little problem, the Constitution. What we can do is control our borders and strongly resist application of Sharia Law within our borders. As for Europe, due to their proximity to the Middle East and North Africa, their problem far outweighs ours. Israel‘s plight? I doubt it will ever be resolved
Border security and better immigration laws would help. The Constitution has only one sentence about religion. It says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. But America has never defined what a religion is. Most assume it’s a personal quest for spiritual development that transcends worldly governments. But the end goal of Islamic jihad groups around the world is the establishment of an Islamic government with the Sharia laws from the Quran and teachings of Mohammad.

China is very intolerant of political dissent of its government. It wants you to get with its Chinese Communist agenda or get out. After its first Islamic jihad attack it took extreme measures to prevent another one. In its prosecution of Muslims and prevention of their immigration to China, it didn’t mention religion. It banned political groups that promote a government contrary to the Chinese government. After America’s first Islamic jihad attack that killed 3,000 Americans, the President invited Muslims to the White House for tea and cookies and assured them he wasn’t Islamophobic. Go Figure.
 
Are you freaking serious? What is wrong with you?

No, you're not an "average American," thank god.

Thankfully I don’t know one person that feels this way. I could certainly never be friends with anyone that believed this. Ugh!!!
lol - musta touched a couple of nerves. Please feel free to suggest the Muslims and Jews sit around the camp fire and sing a couple of versus of Kumbaya and maybe make some s'mores. After all that has worked so well up to date.

Choices are clear - either take path A, which I outlined, or path B, which is perpetual war and Muslims trying to kill all non Muslims in the name of Allah.
 
Border security and better immigration laws would help. The Constitution has only one sentence about religion. It says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”. But America has never defined what a religion is. Most assume it’s a personal quest for spiritual development that transcends worldly governments. But the end goal of Islamic jihad groups around the world is the establishment of an Islamic government with the Sharia laws from the Quran and teachings of Mohammad.

China is very intolerant of political dissent of its government. It wants you to get with its Chinese Communist agenda or get out. After its first Islamic jihad attack it took extreme measures to prevent another one. In its prosecution of Muslims and prevention of their immigration to China, it didn’t mention religion. It banned political groups that promote a government contrary to the Chinese government. After America’s first Islamic jihad attack that killed 3,000 Americans, the President invited Muslims to the White House for tea and cookies and assured them he wasn’t Islamophobic. Go Figure.
I am no constitutional lawyer, and I am definitely no fan of Islam, but I would be amazed if the Supreme Court would support the deportation of an American citizen because of his or her religion. On the other hand the PEW Research Center estimated the US Muslim population to be 3.45 million in 2017, and growing. Ouch!
New estimates show U.S. Muslim population continues to grow
 
You may never read this, but since you mentioned me in your post, I feel compelled to reply. First let me say that I am not completely foreign to Islam. Courtesy of the US Navy I lived in Spain for two years, and spent many weekends in Morocco. Very friendly country, although non-Muslims are not permitted to set foot in their mosques. I was permitted to enter Istanbul‘s Blue Mosque — very nice.

However, much of Europe has experienced various Islamic problems. Your description of US Islamic efforts at peace are no doubt accurate, but these acts of Muslim equanimity are not happening in many other parts of the world. I can refer you to the Religion of Peace web site that maintains a running 30 day list (as long as your arm) of killings in the name of Islam across the globe. Please consider taking a look.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks
I meant to respond to this sooner but lost track of it since I read it while on my tablet and hate to respond with more than one sentence when I'm on it. So I searched until I found it. One thing is for certain ElCastor, I cannot eradicate your experiences with Islam and Muslims and since I've lived as a Muslim who has experienced things differently than in other countries, you can't eradicate mine. Because my experiences have been totally different, it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the injustices Muslim women in other countries face. Not only do I know about it, I abhor it !

I've mentioned this before, but the men who oppress their wives are not following the teachings of Islam! They are exercising power over them because they can and the practice is so ingrained that it's like a cancer that has spread throughout those countries. The Quran gave women certain rights and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who's Hadiths Muslims advised men to treat their wives kindly, if they are faithful. There is mention of beating them "lightly" if they commit adultery and I guess you know that Sharia law permits stoning them to death. Here are 15 rights as mentioned in the Quran and Hadiths that should not be denied but unfortunately, they are.
15 Rights for Women, in Islam - IslamQA

I wonder, have you looked for a list of killings by Caucasians over the decades? This includes all people of color...Native Americans, Africans, African Americans, Hispanics, etc. Have you looked for a list of religious wars, other than Islamic, that took thousands, if not millions of lives? Inquiring minds want to know. :unsure:
 
I wonder, have you looked for a list of killings by Caucasians over the decades? This includes all people of color...Native Americans, Africans, African Americans, Hispanics, etc. Have you looked for a list of religious wars, other than Islamic, that took thousands, if not millions of lives? Inquiring minds want to know. :unsure:
Of course I am aware of endless atrocities committed by Caucasians over the decades, but I am also conscious of the fact that those Caucasians long ago abandoned the Spanish Inquisition and killing in the name of their religion. I sincerely wish Islam would do the same, but this I regret is an endless argument that will never be resolved.
 
Of course I am aware of endless atrocities committed by Caucasians over the decades, but I am also conscious of the fact that those Caucasians long ago abandoned the Spanish Inquisition and killing in the name of their religion. I sincerely wish Islam would do the same, but this I regret is an endless argument that will never be resolved.
My point is and has been that all Muslims shouldn't be lumped in the category of those who commit atrocities such as Hamas starting this war with Israel !! I know so many people who's interactions with Muslims have been positive and describe us as "nice, peaceful people". I consider our interaction a discussion, not an argument. Perhaps in your fact finding quest, you should check out what percentage of Muslims of the world are peaceful and what percentage are not? Stereotyping based on negative qualities and deeds is not cool no matter what race, religion and nationality is being referred to!
 
I meant to respond to this sooner but lost track of it since I read it while on my tablet and hate to respond with more than one sentence when I'm on it. So I searched until I found it. One thing is for certain ElCastor, I cannot eradicate your experiences with Islam and Muslims and since I've lived as a Muslim who has experienced things differently than in other countries, you can't eradicate mine. Because my experiences have been totally different, it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the injustices Muslim women in other countries face. Not only do I know about it, I abhor it !

I've mentioned this before, but the men who oppress their wives are not following the teachings of Islam! They are exercising power over them because they can and the practice is so ingrained that it's like a cancer that has spread throughout those countries. The Quran gave women certain rights and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who's Hadiths Muslims advised men to treat their wives kindly, if they are faithful. There is mention of beating them "lightly" if they commit adultery and I guess you know that Sharia law permits stoning them to death. Here are 15 rights as mentioned in the Quran and Hadiths that should not be denied but unfortunately, they are.
15 Rights for Women, in Islam - IslamQA

I wonder, have you looked for a list of killings by Caucasians over the decades? This includes all people of color...Native Americans, Africans, African Americans, Hispanics, etc. Have you looked for a list of religious wars, other than Islamic, that took thousands, if not millions of lives? Inquiring minds want to know. :unsure:
Your use of the word "Caucasian" seems to have escaped the notice of most people here. It is a racist term and I think you know that.
 
My point is and has been that all Muslims shouldn't be lumped in the category of those who commit atrocities such as Hamas starting this war with Israel !! I know so many people who's interactions with Muslims have been positive and describe us as "nice, peaceful people". I consider our interaction a discussion, not an argument. Perhaps in your fact finding quest, you should check out what percentage of Muslims of the world are peaceful and what percentage are not? Stereotyping based on negative qualities and deeds is not cool no matter what race, religion and nationality is being referred to!
And all white people shouldn't be called racists and all Jewish people shouldn't be hated because of their religion. There is a lot of hate to go around in this world and the best way to end it is to stop playing the victim card.
 
Of course I am aware of endless atrocities committed by Caucasians over the decades, but I am also conscious of the fact that those Caucasians long ago abandoned the Spanish Inquisition and killing in the name of their religion. I sincerely wish Islam would do the same, but this I regret is an endless argument that will never be resolved.
Please don't buy into the use of the word "caucasian." It is a racist, derisive name for white people.
 
I meant to respond to this sooner but lost track of it since I read it while on my tablet and hate to respond with more than one sentence when I'm on it. So I searched until I found it. One thing is for certain ElCastor, I cannot eradicate your experiences with Islam and Muslims and since I've lived as a Muslim who has experienced things differently than in other countries, you can't eradicate mine. Because my experiences have been totally different, it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the injustices Muslim women in other countries face. Not only do I know about it, I abhor it !

I've mentioned this before, but the men who oppress their wives are not following the teachings of Islam! They are exercising power over them because they can and the practice is so ingrained that it's like a cancer that has spread throughout those countries. The Quran gave women certain rights and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) who's Hadiths Muslims advised men to treat their wives kindly, if they are faithful. There is mention of beating them "lightly" if they commit adultery and I guess you know that Sharia law permits stoning them to death. Here are 15 rights as mentioned in the Quran and Hadiths that should not be denied but unfortunately, they are.
15 Rights for Women, in Islam - IslamQA

I wonder, have you looked for a list of killings by Caucasians over the decades? This includes all people of color...Native Americans, Africans, African Americans, Hispanics, etc. Have you looked for a list of religious wars, other than Islamic, that took thousands, if not millions of lives? Inquiring minds want to know. :unsure:
How about endless atrocities committed by blacks against other blacks? How about the black Africans who sold other black Africans into slavery? How about the first slave owner in the Colonies was a black man?
 
Hamas terrorists shot female Israeli soldiers 'in the crotch, intimate parts and breasts' as part of a 'systematic ******* mutilation', the IDF has claimed.

Some of the female victims of the attack on October 7 were left with agonised looks on their faces in death, according to an Israeli unit that helped bless the bodies.

Army reservist Shari Mendes said many bodies of female victims, both civilian and soldiers, arrived 'in bloody shredded rags or just in underwear'.

Mendes, whose unit is based at the Shura Army Base in central Israel, was speaking at a UN event in New York on Monday titled 'Hear Our Voices: Sexual and Gender-Based Violence in the October 7 Hamas terror attack'.

She said: 'Our team commander saw several female soldiers who were shot in the crotch, intimate parts, vag ina, or shot in the breast.

'This seemed to be a systematic gen ital mutilation of a group of victims.'
the rest of the story here.. Hamas shot female soldiers 'in crotch, intimate parts and breasts' gen ital -mutilation. html makes grim reading
 
Your use of the word "Caucasian" seems to have escaped the notice of most people here. It is a racist term and I think you know that.
I've never heard - nor personally felt - that the term Caucasion is a racist one.
How about endless atrocities committed by blacks against other blacks? How about the black Africans who sold other black Africans into slavery? How about the first slave owner in the Colonies was a black man?
Redirecting attention using whataboutisms neither erases nor justifies the horrific, brutal injustice of centuries of slavery in America.
 
Hasn't there been many instances of Nations attacking/invading other countries and killing most of the indigenous people? It seems like THAT is the basis of so many wars.
 
I was never made aware that it is a racist term! How so? Who made that determination and how was it made? I'm going to ask my BFF of 46 years, who is White, what she thinks about it.
The term “Caucasian” has a complicated history and is considered by some to be a racist term. The term was first used in the late 1700s by German philosopher Christoph Meiners, who believed in the pseudoscientific theory of scientific racism. Meiners thought that people from the Caucasus region had the “whitest, most blooming, and most delicate skin” and viewed non-Caucasians as inferior and “animal-like.” German scientist Johann Blumenbach added to Meiners’ theories, saying that people from Georgia were the most beautiful on Earth; therefore, it must have been the birthplace of humanity.

He would go on to refine his theory of race, believing that all European people came from Georgia and were all part of the same race: Caucasian. Blumenbach created four other categories of people that were “degenerate forms of God’s original creation.” These included: Mongolian (the yellow race), Malyan (the brown race), Ethiopian (the black race), and American (the red race).

These racial classifications would go on to be embraced by the United States. After a series of important legal decisions involving the term Caucasian, it has been forged it into our collective vocabulary, and is still used to refer to white people to this day. However, some academics have called for the term to be banned in scientific studies and papers because it is “associated with a racist classification of humans” 1.
It is important to note that the term “Caucasian” is not a scientifically accurate term and is geographically inaccurate as well
 
How about endless atrocities committed by blacks against other blacks? How about the black Africans who sold other black Africans into slavery? How about the first slave owner in the Colonies was a black man?
Google is your friend.
Have you said the same to others on this thread? Probably not, which voids your point.
WTH do you know?! You are new here. There are huncreds of threads and discussions you couldn't possibly have read through.I'm well aware of the history of atrocities by all races & nationalities, which is why I made the points that I did. Congratulations! You have set the record for the fastest "newbie" gets put on ignore. 😆
@StarSong
 
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I was never made aware that it is a racist term! How so? Who made that determination and how was it made? I'm going to ask my BFF of 46 years, who is White, what she thinks about it.
Google it.

WHO makes the determination that ANYTHING is racist? The Black Death of the 1300s is now deemed to be racist. Other racist things: Articulate; Peanut Gallery; picnic; hip-hop-hooray; hoop earrings… Shall I go on? Everything is racist if someone says it is.
 
WTH do you know?! You are new here. There are huncreds of threads and discussions you couldn't possibly have read through.I'm well aware of the history of atrocities by all races & nationalities, which is why I made the points that I did. Congratulations! You have set the record for the fastest "a newbie" gets put on ignore. 😆
Oh, hon, I know a whole lot. I know that racists come in all colors and I know that playing the race card is a cop out. You do not know how long I’ve been here as I may just have a new account. One thing I know for absolute certainty is you are very, very toxic and I’ll wager I am not the only one who has blocked you. Ta ta.
 
Oh, hon, I know a whole lot. I know that racists come in all colors and I know that playing the race card is a cop out. You do not know how long I’ve been here as I may just have a new account. One thing I know for absolute certainty is you are very, very toxic and I’ll wager I am not the only one who has blocked you. Ta ta.
I also find it interesting that people seemingly walk on eggshells around you. I bet you love that.
 
Perhaps in your fact finding quest, you should check out what percentage of Muslims of the world are peaceful and what percentage are not?
Good advice, and one that I have already taken. Check this out. The endless violence around the world documented here is typical, and pre-dates the current battles, battles which began with the murder of more than 1200 Israeli civilians and tourists in the initial Hamas attack.

“ List of Killings in
the Name of Islam:
Last 30 Days “​

List of Islamic Terror Attacks
 
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