Its Assult Weapon time again....yea!!!!!

SifuPhil said:
The U.S. as a whole has seen declining gun-death rates, and the differences between California and the rest of the states aren't all that impressive. I believe it might be a case of the politicians once again taking credit for something they didn't do.

There are 30 million more guns in Cally than there were in 1993, and it doesn't matter if they have child-safety locks or tiny magazines, if the wrong person gets hold of them there will STILL be a slaughter. The only difference will be that there will be fewer armed citizens to take down the shooter.

They're going in the right direction, but there's still glaring holes in the program. They're focusing on the tools and not the wielders.
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Yes, thats very good that they are declining and I hope it continues, but when you compare our record on gun violence with other countries we are greatly lacking. I agree California is going in the right direction...and hopefully other states will follow.
 

Davey Jones said:
re:AB 231 will help prevent tragic accidents involving guns and children by expanding California’s child access prevention law to allow law enforcement to hold a gun owner liable if a weapon is left in a place where a child may gain access to it.

Problem with that law is you have to prove it to be effective.
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I think this law would make anyone think twice about securing their weapons.
 
It says a great deal about the bottom line opinion of Americans about gun rights when we witness a rush on gun sales reacting to a national event. To me it says about anti-gun rights people (not all) they make an exception to their convictions when the threat closes in on them and their families.
 
fmdog44 said:
It says a great deal about the bottom line opinion of Americans about gun rights when we witness a rush on gun sales reacting to a national event. To me it says about anti-gun rights people (not all) they make an exception to their convictions when the threat closes in on them and their families.
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Yeah, those "exceptions." A friend of mine is against capital punishment. When she talks about someone who is especially evil, she says, "Except for him."
 
fmdog44 said:
It says a great deal about the bottom line opinion of Americans about gun rights when we witness a rush on gun sales reacting to a national event. To me it says about anti-gun rights people (not all) they make an exception to their convictions when the threat closes in on them and their families.
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Not all people will make exceptions.
 
win231 said:
Yeah, those "exceptions." A friend of mine is against capital punishment. When she talks about someone who is especially evil, she says, "Except for him."
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I am against capital punishment for a shameful reason. I think the person suffers more with a life sentence. Years and years of nothing to do but face himself and who he is. Who of us would want that fate?
 
NRA-good
NRA-bad
Would I become a dues paying member-Hell no, their nuts.

living in the rural: I've had a pickup stolen, used in a robbery then incinerated to hide fingerprints,
an expensive spray rig,
outbuilding had tools and other items, has been picked clean...

If I hear them, I walk to back porch, let off a few rounds.
They usually come at night, they can be heard, not seen.

Would I shoot a burglar in the outbuildings? YEP, would try to hit them in pelvis or legs, but it takes me a good five minutes to get to back porch..
If an unknown person is in my house, BANG, no pelvis
or legs shots.

In warm weather I often in yard with two canes or walker,
passing vehicles can obviously see I'm disabled.
Thieves know people in the rural will shoot you, their not stupid, they drive by, look, and look...

I''m history, I've been picked clean. They come into out buildings every 3 months or so, when I gone from house;
"Has he bought anything new?"

When I could walk, I'd find many used syringes discarded on
gravel road.
 
Have watched documentaries of people with exotic weapons on firing range-blowing everything up.

I' have a deer rifle, rounds cost over a dollar a piece.
I wonder how these AR-15, .50 cal folks can afford the ammo?
 
Capital punishment (see post 80)
Yes and no, ambiguous no, but I know how the courts operate.
Heavy on the NO; Why
Because justice as far as the DA is concerned is to convict at all cost.
Assistant DA's are judged only on how many convictions they get; Justice be dammed!

Prison is a holding tank for those we feel are dangerous.
We, the taxpayers will not accept the taxes required for
literacy, trade schools, college courses ...
The required tools to 'make it' once prisoners are released
are absent. So they return to crime...
 
Aneeda72 said:
I am against capital punishment for a shameful reason. I think the person suffers more with a life sentence. Years and years of nothing to do but face himself and who he is. Who of us would want that fate?
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People with no conscience have no problem facing themselves & are unable to feel guilt or remorse. They couldn't have committed such evil crimes if they were capable of remorse.
I know because I have a brother like that. He's not a murderer, but he's a thief, deadbeat dad, convicted felon, all-around dirt bag. He considers himself clever when he rips someone off - like all thieves.
I used to make my dad laugh hysterically when I'd ask him, "What the hell were you & mom thinking? Was the pharmacy out of condoms? How much did you & mom drink that night? I want DNA proof that I'm related to him."

In my view, the purpose of capital punishment is to protect the rest of us, rather than "punishment." When a murderer is in prison, there is always the chance of parole & the opportunity to victimize someone again. They can't do that after they're executed.
 
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jerry old said:
Have watched documentaries of people with exotic weapons on firing range-blowing everything up.

I' have a deer rifle, rounds cost over a dollar a piece.
I wonder how these AR-15, .50 cal folks can afford the ammo?
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HAHA. My S & W 500 is expensive to feed at $3.00 - $5.00 a shot. I load my own for less than half that.
If the AR-15 is in .223, it's cheaper since it's a NATO cartridge, especially if you buy by the case. The other caliber AR's are expensive.
 
jerry old said:
NRA-good
NRA-bad
Would I become a dues paying member-Hell no, their nuts.

living in the rural: I've had a pickup stolen, used in a robbery then incinerated to hide fingerprints,
an expensive spray rig,
outbuilding had tools and other items, has been picked clean...

If I hear them, I walk to back porch, let off a few rounds.
They usually come at night, they can be heard, not seen.

Would I shoot a burglar in the outbuildings? YEP, would try to hit them in pelvis or legs, but it takes me a good five minutes to get to back porch..
If an unknown person is in my house, BANG, no pelvis
or legs shots.

In warm weather I often in yard with two canes or walker,
passing vehicles can obviously see I'm disabled.
Thieves know people in the rural will shoot you, their not stupid, they drive by, look, and look...

I''m history, I've been picked clean. They come into out buildings every 3 months or so, when I gone from house;
"Has he bought anything new?"

When I could walk, I'd find many used syringes discarded on
gravel road.
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You should see the used syringes in the city, or maybe not.
 

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