Yes, not only stupid, but easily programmed.
It's been two years to the day that the covid lockdowns and restrictions were implemented. What have you learned?
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^^^ I've learned that some people will believe any number that's thrown at them.
Timewise 60+
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Yep, like sheep over a cliff! Lord help us...
Nathan
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Yea, we've all heard these supposed "facts" from the usual slanted media. Some people aren't able to distinguish the difference between "fact" and "opinion". Here's some definitions:
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noun: fact; plural noun: facts
a thing that is known or proved to be true.
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noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
The Government is going to do what to us again, Timewise? The Government created the virus? I really don't know what you're talking about.
Remy, I don't know where you live, but we do not have to wear masks any more, in stores, restaurants, and lots of other public places. Some theatres still require them, and medical facilities, but there it certainly makes sense.
But I'd like to make another point. Considering what's going on in the world now, with all those brave, determined people in Ukraine fighting with every breath they have to get rid of the Russians who are trying to conquer them and deliberately bombing residential neighborhoods, trying to get out of that country, often with infants in their arms, no food, no medications, and not a whole lot of help...
and seeing those heartbreaking pictures of starving babies in Afghanistan and probably lots of other places....
Somehow, your whining about having to occasionally wear a paper mask when you go shopping doesn't exactly elicit any heartbroken sympathy for you. Just turn on the news, and try to look at the bigger picture.
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OK @Sunny First I wasn't whining. Perhaps you'd like to wear a mandatory N95 mask for 8-16 hours required at work. It's not fun but I do it as it's required and helps keep me safe. I'm grateful to be an essential worker though my job is really starting to kill me.
Second, you have no idea who you are talking to. My mentally ill mother was a 1/2 Jewish survivor of Nazi Germany who also "survived" (actually she survived nothing) the bombings of Dresden. (If not familiar with this bombing, please do a YouTube search. I have) She was never in a camp. I endured her rages as a child as she screamed at me her trauma. Yes, she had severe trauma but IMO she lost her trauma card when she abused her children. BTW my bio-dad was also a prisoner of war of the Japanese. I wasn't sure if I remembered that right, so I did a google search of his name. I was born with a rather unusual last name which was changed to my enabler stepfather's name when I was 7. He has turned up on every POW site for that era I looked at with one of the longest incarcerations one site stated. My brother, 11 years older, told me once "they were a volatile pairing" Ya think!
My mother's behavior went off the rails when she married my enabler stepfather. She would have never got by with her behavior with my biodad. But I think she tested my stepfather, he took all her abuse and within probably 6 months, she was a raging maniac. I was 7. No problem. I could handle it. Right?
My mother could be a good mother, but her rages were insane. And as an undiagnosed borderline personality disorder (don't anyone say I can't diagnose that woman, I was intimately familiar with her behavior) all her rages were forgotten and never happened once over. This appears to be a trait of this disorder. What a brain. While I remember. Also, a therapist told me my mother was likely a borderline.
And yes, I get mad. My mother had two husbands. One who got her to the U.S.. One who took all her abuse, had a good job and she lived a comfortable retirement. Not lavish at all but money was OK. I'm nearing retirement. Alone, never married, tell myself I'm a POS every day, rewired brain from the abuse and I worry a lot.
I wear a mask because I have to. If I get sick who will take care of me. No one. My stepfather was 7 years younger than my mother. He took care of her to almost 90 and took all her abuse, including physical to the end. She was in good health until her last year and was only in a nursing home the last 3 weeks where she died.
So I will wear this mask because I have to. I'm the only one I got. If I die, my cats will be put to sleep. No one can take care of me while many here had the privilege of not being raised with abuse and were able to marry and have family. My mother isolated me terribly as a child and I now realize how diabolical that was. And it's another borderline trait. So I'm alone and I realize I will have to wear this mask to stay as safe as I can. It's not a whine, it's a reality. So your post can bleep off.
So you want to talk about war. I had the affects of war raged at me from the age of 7. I knew the horrors of humanity at much too young an age. I remember how my mother flipped out when the Gulf War started. I can only imagine her now.
Second, you have no idea who you are talking to. My mentally ill mother was a 1/2 Jewish survivor of Nazi Germany who also "survived" (actually she survived nothing) the bombings of Dresden. (If not familiar with this bombing, please do a YouTube search. I have) She was never in a camp. I endured her rages as a child as she screamed at me her trauma. Yes, she had severe trauma but IMO she lost her trauma card when she abused her children. BTW my bio-dad was also a prisoner of war of the Japanese. I wasn't sure if I remembered that right, so I did a google search of his name. I was born with a rather unusual last name which was changed to my enabler stepfather's name when I was 7. He has turned up on every POW site for that era I looked at with one of the longest incarcerations one site stated. My brother, 11 years older, told me once "they were a volatile pairing" Ya think!
My mother's behavior went off the rails when she married my enabler stepfather. She would have never got by with her behavior with my biodad. But I think she tested my stepfather, he took all her abuse and within probably 6 months, she was a raging maniac. I was 7. No problem. I could handle it. Right?
My mother could be a good mother, but her rages were insane. And as an undiagnosed borderline personality disorder (don't anyone say I can't diagnose that woman, I was intimately familiar with her behavior) all her rages were forgotten and never happened once over. This appears to be a trait of this disorder. What a brain. While I remember. Also, a therapist told me my mother was likely a borderline.
And yes, I get mad. My mother had two husbands. One who got her to the U.S.. One who took all her abuse, had a good job and she lived a comfortable retirement. Not lavish at all but money was OK. I'm nearing retirement. Alone, never married, tell myself I'm a POS every day, rewired brain from the abuse and I worry a lot.
I wear a mask because I have to. If I get sick who will take care of me. No one. My stepfather was 7 years younger than my mother. He took care of her to almost 90 and took all her abuse, including physical to the end. She was in good health until her last year and was only in a nursing home the last 3 weeks where she died.
So I will wear this mask because I have to. I'm the only one I got. If I die, my cats will be put to sleep. No one can take care of me while many here had the privilege of not being raised with abuse and were able to marry and have family. My mother isolated me terribly as a child and I now realize how diabolical that was. And it's another borderline trait. So I'm alone and I realize I will have to wear this mask to stay as safe as I can. It's not a whine, it's a reality. So your post can bleep off.
So you want to talk about war. I had the affects of war raged at me from the age of 7. I knew the horrors of humanity at much too young an age. I remember how my mother flipped out when the Gulf War started. I can only imagine her now.
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I've learned much from the get go, because I could always go to online technical sources of information intended for an audience of medical and virologist professionals. Additionally have broadly studied science all my adult life esp life sciences. So am saying when policies began, I was not listening to TV and media broadcasts about what to do but rather what made technical sense. Since there was a mask shortage, I made for all my relatives rather bulky glue gun wire frame masks with hepa rated air filtretes material I amazon ordered before such materials became expensive for wide open Internet craft face mask industry. At web communities before masks were mandatory, I was suggesting how to be safe at supermarkets. As the shutdows began my 2020 ski season was in high gear, my life 2 gud, and a big cold powder storm was dropping southeastward from the Gulf of Alaska. Then for the months of county lockdown, got outdoors locally a lot.
Also explained our government county pandemic policy legalese text carafully analyzing line by line to numbers on NextDoor who were about to cause a riot thinking anyone outdoors unmasked on our creekside paved trail paths was a threat. Actually those moving about exercising outdoors have never needed to wear a mask, were always an exception. And that includes walking urban sidewalks, walking one's dogs, baby strollers, running, jogging, bicycling. And then publicly was critical of the dumbed down "almost everyone is a Homer Simpson" their target audience. Like if it is a breezy day and I'm talking to someone I'm looking at 2 feet away and the breeze is perpendicular across our sides, then common human sense says the 6 foot minimum distance laws have an exception, whether or not the actual policy states whatever. Likewise someone zipping by on a bike or jogging by same simple common sense situation.
Became talented at moving about outdoors in public while keeping at a distance from others. Many in residential areas adopted walk down streets, just to avoid closely passing others. What kind things to toss in my vehicle if on the road during a pandemic. Wise ways to store food stuffs at home like rice, wheat, salt, and sugar etc.
More importantly have thought through what I might need to do if a more serious virus appears this next decade. Something I suspect logically could come to pass given CRISPR gene splicing technology so some wisdom keeping aware of how to leave Dodge before any shootout. There are some political and philosophical entities on this planet that would benefit immensely if 90% of other humans died off in a pandemic in a way that did not physically destroy infrastructure.
Also explained our government county pandemic policy legalese text carafully analyzing line by line to numbers on NextDoor who were about to cause a riot thinking anyone outdoors unmasked on our creekside paved trail paths was a threat. Actually those moving about exercising outdoors have never needed to wear a mask, were always an exception. And that includes walking urban sidewalks, walking one's dogs, baby strollers, running, jogging, bicycling. And then publicly was critical of the dumbed down "almost everyone is a Homer Simpson" their target audience. Like if it is a breezy day and I'm talking to someone I'm looking at 2 feet away and the breeze is perpendicular across our sides, then common human sense says the 6 foot minimum distance laws have an exception, whether or not the actual policy states whatever. Likewise someone zipping by on a bike or jogging by same simple common sense situation.
Became talented at moving about outdoors in public while keeping at a distance from others. Many in residential areas adopted walk down streets, just to avoid closely passing others. What kind things to toss in my vehicle if on the road during a pandemic. Wise ways to store food stuffs at home like rice, wheat, salt, and sugar etc.
More importantly have thought through what I might need to do if a more serious virus appears this next decade. Something I suspect logically could come to pass given CRISPR gene splicing technology so some wisdom keeping aware of how to leave Dodge before any shootout. There are some political and philosophical entities on this planet that would benefit immensely if 90% of other humans died off in a pandemic in a way that did not physically destroy infrastructure.
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Nathan
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There's no accounting for what the misinformed choose to believe.
Timewise 60+
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Nathan, your ability to find definitions on the internet is intact! Good for you! Why don't you actually do some real research, and you may be shocked! Being a Californian, you drink a lot of 'cool aid'! So I understand your information gap!
Timewise 60+
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Make people like you think the Covid new strain, is so dangerous we all need to crawl back under our beds and hide...its all about power!
Make "people like me" think the new strain is (blah blah blah)? Holy Toledo, your overactive imagination is running amok, Timewise. When did I ever say, or even imply anything like that? I wasn't even talking about the virus. I merely asked you what you think the Government is doing to us again. You said the big bad Government had done it again. Done what again?
I know nothing about the new strain. I haven't seen anything about it in the news, except maybe one brief mention that there is a new strain. So what? All diseases keep evolving all the time. I go wherever I want. rarely wear a mask any more (only when required to), and just try to use common sense in general. I am fully vaccinated, received the booster, and will get as many more boosters as are required to keep me healthy. And where did that "crawling under our beds" come from?
Good grief, are you always this hysterical? Is your input about medical treatment of a disease, or about politics? I think I know the answer.
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Timewise 60+
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Sunshine....as you say "blah blah blah" back at you! Have a bright sunny day!
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That I am a social person/that isolation is depressing
Yes, it is. It's unnatural.
Remy, I'm sorry your family suffered the ravages of the Holocaust (and yes, I've heard of it), and your mother's mental illness. It is always sad when a child lives through tragic times, in tragic surroundings. Which is basically the point I was making. The unthinkable tragedy the Ukranian people are living through will stay with them as long as they live, that is, the ones who do manage to survive. Their tragedy is a real tragedy. Your wearing a mask is not a tragedy, it's a nuisance. And for the record, yes, I do have an N95 mask, and several other varieties, and I don't like them either but wear them when necessary. In fact, I don't know a single person who does like wearing a mask.
But your post was whining (yes, that's the word for it) about wearing a "bleeping mask" forever when out and about and shopping. We will obviously not be wearing those masks forever; viruses come and go, and they disappear, or change into something else, or (if most of the population is vaccinated), they become harmless. And probably some other nuisance will come along for you to carry on about.
The Holocaust you are bringing up happened about 80 years ago. But there is another Holocaust, led by another insane dictator, going on right now. IMO, that is what should be getting our attention, not wearing masks. Most of those people in Ukraine would gladly put on a mask if they could change places with us.
But your post was whining (yes, that's the word for it) about wearing a "bleeping mask" forever when out and about and shopping. We will obviously not be wearing those masks forever; viruses come and go, and they disappear, or change into something else, or (if most of the population is vaccinated), they become harmless. And probably some other nuisance will come along for you to carry on about.
The Holocaust you are bringing up happened about 80 years ago. But there is another Holocaust, led by another insane dictator, going on right now. IMO, that is what should be getting our attention, not wearing masks. Most of those people in Ukraine would gladly put on a mask if they could change places with us.
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Suggesting that the conspiracy theorist / media whores are any different is laughable, they are in the same game aimed at capturing the attention of those who are comfy with spoon fed rhetoric.
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@Timewise 60+, HaHa, I recognize your type, self entitled, overblown ego, likes to hurl insults to pump up the fragile ego. The most laughable trait you exhibit is the thought that you magically are smarter and better informed than those who don't share your opinion, which is why you try to shove you cockeyed beliefs down everyone's thought. From Missouri eh? Enjoy that koolaid!
Timewise 60+
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Hey Nate....name calling and no logical response is typical for you! In case you missed it, CNN is not a place to get your information from...
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I have learned that people see conspiracies everywhere, and see everything they do not agree with as a personal affront. Also, that even though it has been two years..this too shall pass.
Nathan
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You should carefully re-read your own words @Timewise 60+ ,as they actually apply to you. You make assumptions about me, but you don't possess the capacity to do that accurately. You seemed to like the definitions I posted earlier, here's one that describes you:
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/trōl/
1.
a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online post.
a deliberately offensive or provocative online post.
verb
1.
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.Timewise 60+
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Nathan...you are repeating yourself again...."Bla, Bla, Bla"!
Nathan
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Lol, I'm repeating MY self?
That's OK, it's the most intelligent thing you've said ever! Have a great day!