It's that time of year again. the fictional "War on Christmas" begins..

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It's started on my FB feed... people posting garbage about not being able to say "Merry Christmas"... So I ask... "who the heck is stopping you?" I'm sure I'll be unfriended.. I didn't have the heart to tell her that this is NOT a Christian Nation... we are secular.. and that there are Americans of every religion.. Christian and Non. Here's what was posted..

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It'a also time for FOX Noise to jump on their annual War on Christmas bandwagon.. if they haven't already.. what is wrong with these people.. ??
 

I see nothing wrong with saying the US is a Christian nation, as it is in fact a Christian nation. Today we are about 70% claiming to be Christian's. Our country was started by Christians back in the 1600's and 1700's by immigrants from Europe. But in recent years lots of other religions have arrived and many do not claim to be Christians any more. We are still a Christian nation, like it or not. Per our Constitution we have no national religion like some countries might have. But by population interests, yes, we are a Christian nation. For those political correct folks, they are once again wrong in how they want the people of the US to think and act. Christianity has holidays, Jewish believers also have holidays, the US has holidays, and as long as they exist the people should be allowed to enjoy them to their pleasure without being told their holidays do not exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_United_States

Christianity is the most popular religion in the United States, with 70.6% of polled American adults identifying themselves as Christian in 2014.[SUP][1][/SUP] This is down from 86% in 1990, lower than 78.6% in 2001,[SUP][2][/SUP] and slightly lower than 73% in 2012.[SUP][3][/SUP] About 62% of those polled claim to be members of a church congregation.[SUP][4][/SUP] The United States has the largest Christian population in the world, with nearly 247 million Christians, although other countries have higher percentages of Christians among their populations.
 

Australia is not very Christian at all but we all say "merry Christmas" and send Christmas cards to our family and friends. We received our first one last week.

I find it very odd that people who live in a country that has freedom of speech specifically guaranteed in its constitution think that that they are unable to utter a very innocuous greeting to others. I think it is actually a chance to take a shot at people of other faiths.

The same thing pops up over here but it is usually centred on Christmas displays in shopping malls and end of school year celebrations. No-one is stopping any of these but each year the Muslims get an undeserved serve.
 
I'm laughing at my FB thread... there' a whole bunch getting all worked up about not being able to say "Merry Christmas". Not one single person commented on that thread complaining about them saying "Merry Christmas"... I keep asking them why they can't say "Merry Christmas?" no one is answering me.. They are talking to themselves and getting all upset.... It's hysterically funny...
 
Dear me April. That is appalling. I didn't see the spirit of Christ manifest in any of those video clips.

I'm over it now but in the past I have been enraged by so called Christmas parades that were nothing more than occasions for merchandising. I have no problem with the parade, just nominally associating it with Jesus of Nazareth.

I have often muttered that we Christians should simply move the date of the celebration of the birth of the Redeemer to another time of year and keep it a secret from everyone else. It hasn't always been celebrated on 25 December and another date could be chosen for Christ's Mass.
 
Bee said:
This from The Muslim Council of Britain in answer to people that say they are not allowed to do anything to do with Christmas in case it offends the Muslims.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/keep-calm-christmas/
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Good answer but it doesn't seem to matter to people who are determined to believe the untruth.

Yesterday I visited a young Muslim woman in Islamic dress who specialises in henna body decoration. She will be taking part in our next church Market Day by offering to decorate people's hands or feet. She also does personalised bookmarks and showed me some that she has made with Christmas symbols. I ordered four to give as Christmas presents but told her not to bother with the Christmas symbols because I would prefer more exotic designs. Who needs more images of Christmas trees and baubles?

Clearly, within the limits of her faith she is attempting to accommodate mainstream Australians during our festive season.
 
Unfortunately, Warrigal, that is what it has become like and about for many here. I don't know if you saw it, but even I was shocked to see the two men who had shot each other in that first video. They didn't show the actual shooting, thank goodness, but, the clip was near the end of the video. just crazy. The joy and meaning seems to have disappeared from the minds of many who celebrate Christmas, even some who fight over the semantics of the wording.
 
I didn't April, because I couldn't bear to watch it to the end.

Over here the sales begin on Boxing Day (Dec 26). I have never bothered to take part. Boxing Day is a good time to keep Christmas alive by socialising with extended family or friends that we were unable to see on Christmas Day. Definitely a good day for a BBQ.
 
QuickSilver said:
I'm laughing at my FB thread... there' a whole bunch getting all worked up about not being able to say "Merry Christmas". Not one single person commented on that thread complaining about them saying "Merry Christmas"... I keep asking them why they can't say "Merry Christmas?" no one is answering me.. They are talking to themselves and getting all upset.... It's hysterically funny...
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Doesn't anyone have an answer for QuickSilver's question? I know there are those that keep saying don't this or that, not just at Christmas but for other events too. I always just considered it to be more of the political correctness nonsense that keeps getting out of hand. I have seen such on TV but never really worried about it and who is pushing this nonsense all the time. Anyone have the answer for QuickSilver? I would like to know too.
 
Maybe no one hasn't an answer because for the most part it's a non-existent issue for most people, so far all the people I know, say whatever floats their boat on the matter and get on with their day.
 
AprilT said:
Maybe no one hasn't an answer because for the most part it's a non-existent issue for most people, so far all the people I know, say whatever floats their boat on the matter and get on with their day.
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One just repeated the myth that saying Merry Christmas is forbidden in Public Schools.. People really believe these things. It's pure nonsense.. but some swear by it.

http://www.thewordout.net/pages/page.asp?page_id=56687
 
It appears that much of the nonsense going on is because of this political correct movement. It makes no sense at all but is creating lots of confusion.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...tical-correctness-bah-humbug-column/20411673/

Ah, the perils and pitfalls of the Christmas ... er ... holiday season.


Like the stockings hung over the fireplace on Christmas morning, my newsfeeds and inbox have been full of holiday-related controversies and things to fret about in this most festive time of year.


One sign of the times was this news tidbit from Montgomery County, Md. In response to a request from Muslim community leaders, the education board voted this fall to change "Christmas break" to "winter break" — making Montgomery one of many educational systems and institutions to go with the generic seasonal moniker rather than the C word.


For the record, this is not quite the outcome the area's Muslim leaders had in mind. They had asked for official school days off in recognition of one of their major holidays. But rather than accede to that, the school board decided to secularize all holiday breaks, Christian and Jewish alike, as if to wash its hands of the whole darn mess (while creating a new one in the process, judging from the criticism that has followed).


Workplace rebranding


Even some of the most secularized and consumerist expressions of Christmas are being judged inappropriate in some quarters. Some workplaces and social circles are calling their gift exchanges "secret snowman" rather than "secret Santa," as if the gift-bearing fat man bore too close an association with Christianity to make his presence palatable.


Congress is another "workplace" where holiday politics are getting weird. The congresswoman in charge of House mailing standards, Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., has reminded members that it's now OK to use greetings such as "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Hanukkah" in mailings to their constituents, thanks to a rules change enacted last year.


The catch: This applies only if the greetings are "incidental." That means no Christmas cards at taxpayer expense and, as the House administration rules page specifies, no Christmas-ey allusions through "colors, illustrations and greetings" on the calendars some members like to send out. I guess we won't be seeing much red or green on those 2015 calendars from Congress!
 
I work for a Faith based corporation.. I regularly get religion, public Prayer, and Christmas and Easter thrown in my face... I don't like it... but I can't say anything because I have chosen to work for the Corporation... So while I'm forced to sit an listen to the praying and the singing... I tune it out and bow my head and make out my grocery list... Or think about what I'm going to make for dinner that evening. People working for a public corporation should do the same.. If you don't like it... work somewhere else.
 
Well Bob, if you investigate a little by
#1 opening the USAToday link then
#2 following the link to the school in Montgomery

you will find that the report is not exactly accurate.

This is what I found -

The backlash was intense Wednesday to the Montgomery County Board of Education’s decision to scrub Christmas and other religious holidays from its published school calendar — without disturbing the days off.

It came by e-mail, tweets and Facebook messages — passionate views, along with some confoundment. Several Montgomery school board members reported that few people of any faith seemed happy with their Tuesday vote.

Montgomery school board member Rebecca Smondrowski, for one, was flooded with angry messages. She had supported a proposal to strip Jewish and Muslim holy days from the calendar and offered an amendment to remove Christmas and Easter, too. I wonder which religious group would have wanted Jewish and Muslim holy days stripped from the school calendar? Surely not the Muslims, nor the Jews. I'm thinking that in Montgomery it was probably some local Christians.

A day later, she stood by her decision and stressed that students would still have the holidays off; only the calendar presentation would change. The idea, she said, was to reflect that schools were not being closed for religious observances but because of high absenteeism among students and staff members on those days.

“I just thought it was the most equitable thing to do,” she said. “I respect and appreciate so much that this is a very personal issue for so many people. I was in no way trying to imply that I don’t respect people’s religious practices. I do.”
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So, who started this exercise in chauvinism? I think Ms Smondrowski exercised the wisdom of King Solomon.
 
Oy, that we celebrate a bit of everything...drawing the line at Kwanzaa, even some black friends think that's a bit over the top. Happy holidays and I wear blue and silver nail polish. If you want to wear red and green, yaaay let's all party together!
 
This thread is dampening my Xmas spirit---why are "some" of the comments so negative?
If you don't like Xmas, avoid it: Go on a cruise
to Vladivostock; sulk in the corner; fight with your neighbor, but don't spoil Christmas for those who love everything about it! :hiteachother:
 
Susie said:
This thread is dampening my Xmas spirit---why are "some" of the comments so negative?
If you don't like Xmas, avoid it: Go on a cruise
to Vladivostock; sulk in the corner; fight with your neighbor, but don't spoil Christmas for those who love everything about it! :hiteachother:
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Where have you gotten the idea from this thread that anyone here hates Christmas? I think the idea is that there IS no war on Christmas..\

However, I have to admit that I don't understand why people get their panties knotted when someone says "Happy Holidays" Makes no sense to me... They are giving you a positive wish.. so what's the problem?
 
Butterfly said:
Well, I've always said Merry Christmas and will continue to do so. I've also said Happy Hanukkah to folks who celebrate that. I do want friends to have a happy whatever they are celebrating.
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That's my feeling... People should say whatever greeting they choose at the Holiday.. and quit taking offense to someone saying something different. So long as they aren't telling you to go to hell... take it as a positive thing.
 
I greet Muslims with Have a good Ramadan and Happy Eid at the appropriate times.

On a side note, I find Happy Easter greeting a bit jarring if delivered before Easter Sunday because before then Lent is not a time that is characterised by happiness and Good Friday is actually a painful day for practicing Christians. But I don't comment on it. At best I respond with, "You too".
 

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