Jane Fonda Arrested For Protesting In D.C.

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norman said:
I would agree with Jerry about beating a dead horse and bury the hatchet, The Vietnam War sets me off, sorry. I do note that Star called me OLD MAN. lol Yes I am old, my grand children call me Papaw and our favorite song line was ''grandpa tell me about the good ole days '' when I would tell them stories. They liked it when I would tell them about the wild strawberries as big as apples that grew in the pasture and a the wild rabbit I had made friends with who would tell me where the best berry patches were and the bridge that had a troll living under it, Around Halloween we drive over it to see if the troll would chase us, they claimed they did see the troll. Kind of sad as my grand children have children of there own now, Dat mak me uh a Great Papaw.
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I'm quite sure that I have never called you or anyone else on this forum "Old Man." Ever. Indeed, I find it difficult to refer to the poster @oldman by that phrase and use OM instead when directing a comment his way.

Generalizing about age groups and generations has raised my hackles since I was a teen. You'll find numerous instances on this forum where I stand up for younger generations when they are being dissed. I do the same for all generations including my own.
 

Trade said:
I prefer she just stick to acting and keep her mouth shut.

When she goes out and demonstrates against a war she just gives ammunition to the pro-war people.

If you don't believe me just check out some of the posts from the "Patriots" in this thread.
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Fair enough BUT she was young and made a mistake which she’s spent her life apologizing for.
Do we punish people forever for mistakes made while young and naive?
 
Sunny said:
I will say this: What makes all these show biz celebrities such experts on every controversial subject? To hear some of them on the talk shows, they have some inside knowledge the rest of us mere mortals do not have. Pure ego, IMO.................Why should their opinions on those subjects be any more respected than those of Joe Sixpack down the street? Name recognition, nothing more.
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I kind of disagree with you here, Sunny (although it seems rare when I do!) and I'll tell you why: Neither Joe Sixpack nor the rest of us have the access celebrities do to important people in the know, on the inside of information. A celebrity is a person other people want to be acquainted with. They get to know people from all walks of life--politicians, business leaders, Bill Gates, whatever. They have opportunities for knowledge Mr. Sixpack will never have, and neither will we.
 
Maybe some of them do have access to good information, Pepper. And some of them are clearly wackos, egotististical, self-absorbed people, some of them have wound up in jail for white collar crimes. Being good at singing, acting, or whatever, does not make them experts on every subject under the sun, especially when dealing with science and technology. Their celebrity might be used for good, but it could just as easily be used for evil.

So, as I said, although I am on the same side of this issue as Jane, I don't believe her impassioned political beliefs made her any more of a spokesperson for the left wing than anyone else. She did put her life and her personal freedom on the line, I've got to give her credit for that. I think she was sincere. And probably that whole Viet Nam business seriously damaged her career.
 
Sunny said:
Maybe some of them do have access to good information, Pepper. And some of them are clearly wackos, egotististical, self-absorbed people, some of them have wound up in jail for white collar crimes. Being good at singing, acting, or whatever, does not make them experts on every subject under the sun, especially when dealing with science and technology. Their celebrity might be used for good, but it could just as easily be used for evil.

So, as I said, although I am on the same side of this issue as Jane, I don't believe her impassioned political beliefs made her any more of a spokesperson for the left wing than anyone else. She did put her life and her personal freedom on the line, I've got to give her credit for that. I think she was sincere. And probably that whole Viet Nam business seriously damaged her career.
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Completely agree with you on this. It did serious damage to her career and her personally.
 
She is going to protest every Tuesday so I heard
Why not give her bail money to the cause?

I wonder if this was a young person they would be facing jail term after the first time
 
Butterfly said:
I do not believe she was "naive" by any stretch. She knew exactly what she was doing, and why. She wasn't all that young, either.
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She was 35. She made a terrible mistake and I ‘still’ feel she shouldn’t be punished her entire life for it but I’m ok with you believing what you do.
 
Keesha said:
She was 35. She made a terrible mistake and I ‘still’ feel she shouldn’t be punished her entire life for it but I’m ok with you believing what you do.
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I don't believe anything except that it is my personal opinion that what she did was hugely wrong (and had it happened in a declared war might have been called treason) and did great harm to our armed forces serving honorably in an unpopular war.
 
I'd say Jane Fonda's career rebounded nicely. Within a few years she won a second Oscar and was nominated for three more, plus numerous Golden Globe nominations and wins. She became the exercise video queen and returned to acting with much acclaim.
 
I just found out that she was protesting about climate change. I had figured it was something to do with all the talk about going to war with Iran. Well Hell that's not so bad then. I'm OK with her protesting on that issue. It's war protesting that she's lost all credibility with me.

Guess I need to keep up better. :(
 
You can't unsee them but you can certainly put them in context.

I don't condemn someone over making a foolish misstep during a time of great division, particularly when the offender has repeatedly apologized for her actions and it occurred nearly 50 years ago.
 

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