Juice: Power Politics and the Grid

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I watched the first part and it is very interesting.

Juice the Series – From Texas to Tokyo, this five-part docuseries shows how politicians and corporate avarice weakened our most critical network — and why we need fission to fix it.
Juice: Power, Politics, And The Grid is a five-part documentary series produced by two Austin-based filmmakers, Tyson Culver and Robert Bryce, that follows the success of their first film: Juice: How Electricity Explains the World, which is now available on streaming platforms around the world.

The series takes viewers from Texas to Tokyo to expose the perils facing our electric grid. It shows how we can improve the reliability of our most important energy network and address climate change by embracing nuclear energy.

Juice: Power, Politics & The Grid features interviews with top thought leaders, including historian Patty Limerick, political scientist Roger Pielke Jr., journalist Michael Shellenberger, civil rights leader Robert Apodaca, World Nuclear Association director Sama Bilbao, Sacramento County Sheriff Jim Cooper, Canadian nuclear activist Chris Keefer, author Meredith Angwin, former IEA director Nobuo Tanaka, Campaign for a Green Nuclear Deal founder Madi Hilly, and many others.

While offering a sober assessment of the challenges facing the $5 trillion-per-year global electricity business, the series concludes with a hopeful look at the future — and the future of climate change — by featuring the activists who are helping fuel renewed interest and investment in nuclear power here in the U.S. and around the globe.
 

You know, I was reading up on some info on electric cars, and I don't know, I don't think they're going to truly deliver.

I mean, we're promised a cleaner car for the environment, and cheaper "fuel" as we recharge. Then, electricity prices go through the roof, and the entire grid runs as though it's at full capacity the whole time. Then I read that local councils in the UK are looking to put up the rental space recharging points use by as much as 1600%. I guess they need to get their money somehow.

I mention this only because..... we get promised things, and we get excited to hear about the new. But we rarely follow up and track it over time. The quest for growth at all costs will keep prices high.
 
You raise some very valid points. The electric car revolution has been lauded as a key step towards a cleaner future and indeed it can be a game changer in reducing carbon emissions and pollution. But the reality is often a bit more complex. 😕
While electric cars have some environmental advantages, they still rely on electricity, which is often generated from fossil fuels. And as you mentioned, electricity prices are on the rise, meaning that charging an electric car is becoming more expensive. Additionally, if the grid can't handle the increased demand for electricity, we could be looking at more frequent blackouts and power outages. 🔌

And as for the local councils in the UK looking to increase rental fees for charging stations, well that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the future of electric cars either. It's almost like they're trying to take advantage of the growing popularity of electric cars to make a quick buck. 😡
So, yes, it's definitely important to be critical of these technological advancements and not get caught up in the hype without considering the long-term implications. Maybe we should focus on solutions that address the root causes of environmental degradation, rather than expecting technological fixes to save us from ourselves. 🌍
 

Paco Dennis said:
Maybe we should focus on solutions that address the root causes of environmental degradation, rather than expecting technological fixes to save us from ourselves.
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The only real solution to this is less people. We would have to go back to living like the American Indians. No electricity, no factories, no airplanes etc. Globalist organizations have this all planned out. I know they said "no politics" but to me this isn't "politics" but life and death.
Globalists Say Overpopulation Must Be Solved By Whatever Means Necessary
 
Paco Dennis said:
And as for the local councils in the UK looking to increase rental fees for charging stations, well that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the future of electric cars either. It's almost like they're trying to take advantage of the growing popularity of electric cars to make a quick buck.
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See, the Councils are getting squeezed financially. After years of cuts, there is a £4bn hole in their finances across the nation. They will do whatever they can to make up the difference, and this is an easy way to pick up some change. This is why, when considering a change, we must also consider unintended consequences.

I love the idea of an EV, and would happily own one. The trouble they face now is that they cause more pollution during manufacture, and obviously they rely on an infrastructure to charge them. Even in a utopia where we all switched tomorrow, the energy industry will see massive profits by raising prices, with no net gain for us, the people.
 
VaughanJB said:
See, the Councils are getting squeezed financially. After years of cuts, there is a £4bn hole in their finances across the nation. They will do whatever they can to make up the difference, and this is an easy way to pick up some change. This is why, when considering a change, we must also consider unintended consequences.

I love the idea of an EV, and would happily own one. The trouble they face now is that they cause more pollution during manufacture, and obviously they rely on an infrastructure to charge them. Even in a utopia where we all switched tomorrow, the energy industry will see massive profits by raising prices, with no net gain for us, the people.
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The transition to EVs will undoubtedly have challenges, but the potential benefits for the environment and energy independence are significant. Addressing concerns like charging infrastructure costs, manufacturing emissions, and energy price fluctuations requires a multi-pronged approach involving government policies, industry innovation, and consumer awareness.
 
Paco Dennis said:
The transition to EVs will undoubtedly have challenges, but the potential benefits for the environment and energy independence are significant. Addressing concerns like charging infrastructure costs, manufacturing emissions, and energy price fluctuations requires a multi-pronged approach involving government policies, industry innovation, and consumer awareness.
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The move to EV's is inevitable. I don't believe there is any choice. I also think that a lot of issues people complain about today are simply teething issues. New tech will come along, things will improve. It's very early days right now. That said, we should keep an eye on it. We tend to forget that we, as a planet, have been held to ransom by the oil giants. The environment aside, I have no love of big oil.
 
VaughanJB said:
See, the Councils are getting squeezed financially. After years of cuts, there is a £4bn hole in their finances across the nation. They will do whatever they can to make up the difference, and this is an easy way to pick up some change. This is why, when considering a change, we must also consider unintended consequences.

I love the idea of an EV, and would happily own one. The trouble they face now is that they cause more pollution during manufacture, and obviously they rely on an infrastructure to charge them. Even in a utopia where we all switched tomorrow, the energy industry will see massive profits by raising prices, with no net gain for us, the people.
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That's something I hadn't thought of- here in the US, the state and federal governments add taxes to gas to cover for the cost of maintaining of roads. NO gas-NO revenue. You do know they are going to start taxing the hell out of charging stations.
 
Population has already passed the tipping point into decline. States already impose an EV fee to cover some road taxes otherwise evaded. Most of this is old news now. I don't think EVs are an answer but the story is more complex and it feels like people have been snoozing on the real story and are trying to play catch-up now.

Ignore the usual news outlets, they have an interest in keeping you lagging behind the story. It is easier to discredit opinions that way.
 
dilettante said:
Population has already passed the tipping point into decline. States already impose an EV fee to cover some road taxes otherwise evaded. Most of this is old news now. I don't think EVs are an answer but the story is more complex and it feels like people have been snoozing on the real story and are trying to play catch-up now.

Ignore the usual news outlets, they have an interest in keeping you lagging behind the story. It is easier to discredit opinions that way.
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What's the real story? We are at a time of change, and problems all occur at this time. EV's have already come a long way, and they will develop faster. We can generate more electricity, we can't make more oil. But if there is a "real story" I'm missing, I'd love to know what it is.
 
VaughanJB said:
See, the Councils are getting squeezed financially. After years of cuts, there is a £4bn hole in their finances across the nation. They will do whatever they can to make up the difference, and this is an easy way to pick up some change. This is why, when considering a change, we must also consider unintended consequences.

I love the idea of an EV, and would happily own one. The trouble they face now is that they cause more pollution during manufacture, and obviously they rely on an infrastructure to charge them. Even in a utopia where we all switched tomorrow, the energy industry will see massive profits by raising prices, with no net gain for us, the people.
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That was the plan all along, I think. A return to neofeudalism.
 
The real story is that EVs don't work. Sure, they make fun exotic toys for the rich. And they can meet some transportation needs in ideal climates when your world is small and you don't care about diverting electricity better used for other things into a vanity statement. Or when you can afford to keep one or two "primary" vehicles to backstop the severe limitations of an EV.

The necessary power is not being produced, the transmission infrastructure isn't in place, and the conversion losses at the EV itself all spell disaster. We can't sustain such an economy for everyone. Everything that's been done to address it is already gobbled up by other increasing uses for electricity that cannot easily be met by alternatives... as is already the case for personal transportation which can burn primary fuels directly. That's without even looking at the high cost, rapid technology churn, fragile electronics, waste products of production, 3rd world exploitation, short service life, and high cost of repair after even fairly minor damage. Not to mention the practical operational difficulties in non-ideal climates and road conditions.
 
Seeing a proliferation of solar charging panel installations on residential roofs here in Houston tells me something.

It tells me the various and sundry electricity providers are negligent in their charge. Their charge, indeed what we pay for as consumers, is a steady guaranteed supply of power. The fact that they cannot provide this on a routine basis is no cause for me as a consumer to have to lay out thousands of dollars to create my own electrical supply grid. I for one intend NOT to do a solar panel install.

Bottom line, time for elected officials to bring pressure to bear on the utilities to do their job.
 

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